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Brovane

Brovane

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Got all stocked up long before the current buying frenzy. Wait until prices crash because of over production and stock up some more.

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MrPickins

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jpeyton said:
High five figures, not low five figures. But my buying has slowed down quite a bit since March. Besides the .22LR, I only have one case of ammo arriving this week (9mm FMJ).

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/1...-public-government-leaves-ammo-shelves-empty/
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“People [e.g. jpeyton] buy ammunition when they see it even if they don’t need it,” said Mike Bazinet, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Association, which represents firearms and ammunition manufacturers. “It becomes self-fulfilling over time.”
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Seriously? you're just now slowing down at "high five figures"? This is the worst time to be buying. You should be resting on your stock, slowly depleting it, then re-upping when the panic subsides.

What you're doing is fueling the fire. Self fulfilling, indeed.
 
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Phanuel

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I saw it when it had stock. Unfortunately the pricing was pretty bad. Something like $14/box of 20 and $34/box of 50. But I guess if you really need ammo...
 
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Genx87

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I hit Cabelas last night at about 7:30. The place was dead and there were plenty of ARs and ammo of all calibers. The guy said it has slowed down a lot in the last few weeks.
 
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JackBurton

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Fenixgoon said:
i hate you.
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Don't worry man, I think this MAY be a turning point in the ammo shortage. This was the first time in a looooong time since I've seen the shelves stocked pretty well and weren't emptied out within a hour. There was a shipment of ammo that came in on Monday and then another shipment on Tuesday. And the crazy thing was, on Tuesday there was still ammo left over from the previous day, which was pretty dang surprising. I'm going again tomorrow to see if I can pick up another 5 boxes (5 box limit).
 
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Sluggo

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Got a couple of boxes of steel Monarch 9mm at Academy for 10.99 a box, haven't seen 22 cents a round in quite a while.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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This is probably going to last a while even if it eases up a tiny bit.

A lot of people like myself have basically said, ok this is it, this is the last time, I'm going to get everything from now on whenever I can and never stop even when things are back to normal. And even when the legislation fails and the politics get swept under the rug and everything is back to normal, I'm STILL going to be buying a box or 3 of ammo every time I pass a store that has it, or see a sale, or whatever.

Because I'm /done with this shit once and for all. Never worrying about it again, no matter what shootings happen, no matter what laws are drafted or passed, this is it, lesson learned, never again, DONE WITH IT.

Not going to go back to being complacent, even two years from now, even if/when republicans control all 3 branches, I'm still going to treat every day as if it was the day of/after Sandy Hook and pretend like it won't be there tomorrow.

A *lot* of people have snapped and realize it too; multiply that mind set x a few million. So this is probably going to last for years, even if it does ease a little bit.

And not just a few boxes. I happen to be rolling through Walmart and they have a can of 420 rd M855 or a 1000 rd case of Wolf? It's only $180, grab one, even if I already have 10,000 rds.

Next time this happens, I'm not even going to blink.

DONE. WITH. IT. FOR. NOW. AND. FOREVER.
 
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exdeath

exdeath

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JackBurton said:
No doubt. I'm picking up as much as the stores will allow. What I actually need is 147 gr 9mm ammo. All I've been able to get ahold of is, 115 & 124 gr.
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Damn it. I'll trade you some 147 for 124 :D I had several opportunities to pick up HST in 147 gr but have been waiting for 124 +P HST.

I prefer 124 in 9mm, it's pretty much what it was designed for. 147 subsonic and doesn't capitalize on and min/max the inherent trait of the 9mm, it's velocity.

It's like trying to make your 9mm a .40 but with less case capacity.
 
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JackBurton

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exdeath said:
Damn it. I'll trade you some 147 for 124 :D I had several opportunities to pick up HST in 147 gr but have been waiting for 124 +P HST.

I prefer 124 in 9mm, it's pretty much what it was designed for. 147 subsonic and doesn't capitalize on and min/max the inherent trait of the 9mm, it's velocity.

It's like trying to make your 9mm a .40 but with less case capacity.
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If I wasn't going to use a suppressor, 124 would be my preferred choice for 9mm. However, shooting 115 & 124 kind of defeats the point of a suppressor due to the loud sonic crack. And 147 gr hollow points will do enough damage to take down the target at close range (home defense). And if it doesn't, the 16 others following right behind it will. :)

My carry weapon (Glock 26) on the other hand will use 124. :)
 
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velillen

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JackBurton said:
If I wasn't going to use a suppressor, 124 would be my preferred choice for 9mm. However, shooting 115 & 124 kind of defeats the point of a suppressor due to the loud sonic crack. And 147 gr hollow points will do enough damage to take down the target at close range (home defense). And if it doesn't, the 16 others following right behind it will. :)

My carry weapon (Glock 26) on the other hand will use 124. :)
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115gr 9mm doesnt always go supersonic. PMC (bronze i think it is?), Federal cheap stuff (red box) from wal mart, and my reloads all dont go supersonic and can be used with my suppressor (although my sig 226 required a spring change when using it suppressed with 115gr). Most of it is borderline supersonic so just depends where you are shooting really. That and what you are shooting. Shorter barrel means better chance itll stay subsonic

THough i do use 147gr most of the time just to separate loads a bit. 115 i play around a bit more charge/powder/bullet wise. 147 is always going ot be a plated bullet for me.
 
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JackBurton

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velillen said:
115gr 9mm doesnt always go supersonic. PMC (bronze i think it is?), Federal cheap stuff (red box) from wal mart, and my reloads all dont go supersonic and can be used with my suppressor (although my sig 226 required a spring change when using it suppressed with 115gr). Most of it is borderline supersonic so just depends where you are shooting really. That and what you are shooting. Shorter barrel means better chance itll stay subsonic

THough i do use 147gr most of the time just to separate loads a bit. 115 i play around a bit more charge/powder/bullet wise. 147 is always going ot be a plated bullet for me.
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I think a subsonic 115 gr round has a greater potential for a jam as the bullet doesn't have the weight and speed to overcome the additional back pressure the suppressor creates. I'd either use supersonic 115 or subsonic 147 gr for reliability. Ambient temperature also plays a part whether a shot will go supersonic or not, but a 147 gr round normal stays under the sound barrier.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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JackBurton said:
If I wasn't going to use a suppressor, 124 would be my preferred choice for 9mm. However, shooting 115 & 124 kind of defeats the point of a suppressor due to the loud sonic crack. And 147 gr hollow points will do enough damage to take down the target at close range (home defense). And if it doesn't, the 16 others following right behind it will. :)

My carry weapon (Glock 26) on the other hand will use 124. :)
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Ah well played sir.
 
exdeath

exdeath

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JackBurton said:
I think a subsonic 115 gr round has a greater potential for a jam as the bullet doesn't have the weight and speed to overcome the additional back pressure the suppressor creates. I'd either use supersonic 115 or subsonic 147 gr for reliability. Ambient temperature also plays a part whether a shot will go supersonic or not, but a 147 gr round normal stays under the sound barrier.
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Back pressure? Not sure that has anything to do with it.

The recoil spring is calibrated to a certain mass bullet/slide/barrel system. The slide/barrel must have the same momentum as the bullet in equal and opposite directions, and the recoil spring is designed for that momentum. Throwing the suppressor on it increases substantially the amount of mass that must recoil, and the bullet needs to be higher mass to compensate with additional recoil energy to accelerate the slower mass against the spring to cycle completely.

Or go with a lighter spring.

Remember handguns aren't gas operated, they are modified Browning short recoil. They function due to mass/recoil/equal and opposite momentum, not gas pressure.
 
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