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calling out a stupid statement is not crying about anything. and nothing is set in stone (see recent death penalty conviction overturned after 30 years)

you seem overly sensitive.

nobody knows for sure what happened that night. we do know that GZ set out in pursuit in a state of anger and having already judged someone guilty though. so saying he in no way was seeking confrontation is a really stupid statement.

please give us more thoughts of yours on that evening. would love to continue to expose your stupidity.

The only stupidity here is the one arguing about a case that's been long over. Are you really that upset about it? It's over, done, and in the past. Stop being such a crybaby and man up.
 
gotta admit that was fun to watch, makes the idea of paying for MMA ppvs silly when you can just watch a good beat down free on the internet.
 
The only stupidity here is the one arguing about a case that's been long over. Are you really that upset about it? It's over, done, and in the past. Stop being such a crybaby and man up.

you just keep repeating the same thing because you have no ability to actually discuss the points i put forward.

move along little boy. you can't hang with the adults in here.
 
you just keep repeating the same thing because you have no ability to actually discuss the points i put forward.

move along little boy. you can't hang with the adults in here.

I keep repeating the same thing because I'm not stupid enough to fall for your troll bait in derailing the topic to a GZ vs Martin discussion. It's already been discussed and the trial's over with. If you still want to cry about about it, head on over to here. This thread is something different, moron. 🙄
 
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I keep repeating the same thing because I'm stupid enough to fall for your troll bait in derailing the topic to a GZ vs Martin discussion. It's already been discussed and the trial's over with. If you still want to cry about about it, head on over to here. This thread is something different, moron. 🙄

saying this thread is about something different but yet you are the one who brought up GZ and TM, makes it that you are calling yourself a moron.

now that is up there with the epitome of internet stupid.

congrats.
 
saying this thread is about something different but yet you are the one who brought up GZ and TM, makes it that you are calling yourself a moron.

now that is up there with the epitome of internet stupid.

congrats.

Still trying and crying? What the hell is wrong with you? Did your mom drop you on your head? It's almost a year now and you're still trying to get this debate up and going? Do you have anything better to do in your spare time? Man up and get a life.
 
i'll be happy to go through this point to point with you since you seem rather dense. let's start with this point:

is it or is it not a fact that GZ had assessed TM as a guilty threat based upon his RECORDED conversation with 911? "This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. "

yes or no
 
i'll be happy to go through this point to point with you since you seem rather dense. let's start with this point:

is it or is it not a fact that GZ had assessed TM as a guilty threat based upon his RECORDED conversation with 911? "This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. "

yes or no


Look, you stupid idiot. I wasn't the one who brought up GZ. I was responding to that post. I don't care to have a debate about something so old. Move on, get a life. 🙄
 
Look, you stupid idiot. I wasn't the one who brought up GZ. I was responding to that post. I don't care to have a debate about something so old. Move on. 🙄

refusing to answer a harmless question totally relevant to the discussion on hand.

verdict? guilty of being an idiot unwilling to participate in a simple debate.

= loser.

too easy with you. try harder next time.
 
Lmao at "mma ground training". Country guys like myself spent our younger years wrestling and fighting for fun. No special training just stuff we did when there was nothing else to do which when you live in the country that's all the time.
 
Lmao at "mma ground training". Country guys like myself spent our younger years wrestling and fighting for fun. No special training just stuff we did when there was nothing else to do which when you live in the country that's all the time.

Growing up in Texas my cousins and I used to throw rocks and stones at each other. Thinking back on it, it was really fucking stupid.
 
Growing up in Texas my cousins and I used to throw rocks and stones at each other. Thinking back on it, it was really fucking stupid.

Dumb, really dumb.

We used to dig foxholes and use plastic beach pails for helmets. The helmets made a world of difference.😀

BTW, I grew up in CT back in the sixties so the kids in Texas really didn't have all the stupid locked up. 🙁
 
The guy has about as much ground training as Tank Abbott did when he debuted. (Dang I just realized how fuckin' odd that word is to spell out)
 
Good ole boy redneck was attempting to de-escalate the situation and was walking away with his back turned. Then he was viciously and violently attacked. Hell, the assailant's intention is captured on video.

jesus calm down. viciously and violently? you're a nutter for sure but if you think a french fry like that with his "swift" first punch was vicious and violent, what kind of red neck are you? LOL.
 
Good ole boy redneck was attempting to de-escalate the situation and was walking away with his back turned. Then he was viciously and violently attacked. Hell, the assailant's intention is captured on video.

Your Honor, my client Mr. Joe Trucker after having just finished dinner was attempting to de-escalate the situation and was walking away with his back turned when he was viciously and violently attacked.
The plaintiff's intention as he openly exhibits his sexual preferences in a vile and disturbing display in the parking lot of a family restaurant is captured on video.

Edited for the more sensitive types,,,,
 
You can counter sue all you want but Juries tend to look at much different things. My friend I mentioned for the bar fight got hit in the head FIRST with a bottle. He then proceeded to beat the living shit out of five guys. Was he in the right. Sure. He was also a martial arts instructor with a deadly skill set that some jurisdictions look at worse than having a gun. In court he was painted as a trained killer who should have known when to stop. You can be made liable for the person you hurts family. Is it wrong sure but its the reality of our court system.

He lost his house, liberty and the privilege of seeing his kids grow up. FUCK that. Im still pissed at the whole situation.

Are you sure you're not confusing your friend with Nic Cage in Con Air?
 
The guy has about as much ground training as Tank Abbott did when he debuted. (Dang I just realized how fuckin' odd that word is to spell out)

lol

exactly. he just bull rushed, got lucky on the reversal and punched. AT most he may have wrestled. but hell even the reversal looked ugly
 
Are you sure you're not confusing your friend with Nic Cage in Con Air?

I wish I was man. It was in the grate state of florida in the 90s. . There have been many like him. In high school I got into a fight with a couple of seniors and broke one their noses so bad he had to be hospitalized and his parents took my parents to court. We were lucky the judge tossed it out since it was just one strike. If I had stood over them and pounded them it would have turned out differently.
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Its just not worth it. The more trained you are the more you need to realize this.
 
I wish I was man. It was in the grate state of florida in the 90s. . There have been many like him. In high school I got into a fight with a couple of seniors and broke one their noses so bad he had to be hospitalized and his parents took my parents to court. We were lucky the judge tossed it out since it was just one strike. If I had stood over them and pounded them it would have turned out differently.
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Its just not worth it. The more trained you are the more you need to realize this.


Almost unbelievable to have that happen in Florida. I would love more details so I can read about what happened.

His lawyer must've screwed him somehow. No way were there witness that showed he was outnumbered, someone started it with him, and he still served time over it.

Trained or not, there is quite a bit of case law for similar situations.. And one person vs multiples, all bets are off for the outnumbered person. I recall one case in particular where a guy was outnumbered 3 to 1, he beat two of their heads in with a mallet and was going after the third before people pulled him off.

It was brutal, and WAY over the top. His case revolved around the fact that with multiple people against him he had to make absolutely sure none of them got up.


What you're describing often happens in states that have duty to retreat laws. But not in any state that supports victim's rights.
 
That case and the results are why self defense laws have been passed across the country to protect the victim from criminal and civil liabilit.
 
I choose to live, travel, and vacation only in states that strongly support victims.

If you are viciously attacked you should have the legal right to defend yourself via any means necessary until all threats are stopped.

That means not being physically able to get up and shoot you in the back.
 
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