Super Tuesday Results

[IronWing]

I can't wait!

The debates need to be moderated by 18-27 year olds before a similarly aged live studio audience (with beer and pot served).

Alternately, Trump needs to organize the debates. At least we'd get a lingerie show between bouts.

 

[Perknose]

The modern debates are wrassling matches to entertain. No real substance is discussed. It is unfortunate that most policy proposals by candidates molder in white papers on campaign websites while the candidates spend their time shaking babies and kissing asses instead of talking policy.

The debates need to be moderated by 18-27 year olds before a similarly aged live studio audience (with beer and pot served).

Alternately, Trump needs to organize the debates. At least we'd get a lingerie show between bouts.

Debate Rules: A rope delineated ring. Both candidates need to appear in wrestling singlets. Just imagine Trump! I would be peeing myself in laughter and schadenfreude, and not even caring that I'd have to throw the pee-stained couch out!

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The debates need to be moderated by 18-27 year olds before a similarly aged live studio audience (with beer and pot served).

Alternately, Trump needs to organize the debates. At least we'd get a lingerie show between bouts.

Let's just make it a PPV and make some money off of it. STEEL CAGE MATCH!

 

[ewdotson]

Just woke up and saw that Biden did well, but apparently the younger voter turnout wasn't all that high and if true that's very very bad.

Overall turnout was quite good though. For example, Virginia's turnout increased ~600k over 2016. It just wasn't the new, young voters that Sander's supporters promised.

 

[Starbuck1975]

What the hell is artificial momentum?

There was an Atlantic article on this the other day. Essentially, the entire notion of national political momentum is a lie, or even the sense of an American identity. Politics has become a tribalistic game of power brokers and backroom deals, as exemplified by the change in fortune of status quo Joe.

Biden was the presumed nominee for reasons.

He didn’t win one debate.

He isn’t running on big ideas.

I don’t see anyone energized by the idea of a Biden presidency.

 

[Zorba]

Biden gained artificial momentum by forming centrist Voltron and passing out the Obama member berries.

From where I’m standing, someone certainly didn’t learn anything from 2016.

Wall Street seems excited by status quo Joe, so there’s always that.

Let me guess, since you are not going to get the guy on the "far" left, you are going to be forced to vote for the extreme far right guy, right?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I asked him to explain the difference between Trump and Biden.

Per the Bloomberg thread the answer is simple.
Supreme Court picks.

Do you want President Trump naming 2 or 3 more Justices or President Biden naming 2 or 3 more Justices?

 

[Perknose]

Regardless, this day has given me a solid gridlock on this: Trump is winning in 2020. Hope you dems are satisfied.

"Solid . . . gridlock?" Lololololol, you can really embarrass yourself at times.

Methinks you have a "solid gridlock" at the ass end of your alimentary canal.

English, Leroy, learn it.

 

[Perknose]

In all seriousness, I'm just happy the nominee will NOT be Bloomberg

Word! I imagine we're all like every woman he's ever pursued . . . we just want him to shut up and hand over his money.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

lol, she's still a Senator here. One of the reasons I didn't vote for her in the primary is I like her as a Senate member from our state.

You have some intense hangups on women in politics.

I agree, the right place for Warren right now is either Senator or Attorney General.
Also amongst the people I know, Mass voters are more about who is going to win vs whom is my ideal candidate.

 

[Perknose]

He isn’t running on big ideas.

Oh YES he is! Here's one: Deny Trump a second term so we can begin to save our institutions AND put that fat fucker in jail.

I don’t see anyone energized by the idea of a Biden presidency.

Just what thread are you reading??

 

[Bitek]

No I'm pissed at Warren for running a shitty campaign, she was my first choice by a large margin.

Agreed. Policy wise I like Warren a lot, she's more in the sweet spot between Joe and Bernie.

Personally I like Joe and Liz, but while Joe is a steady hand, he's an institutionalist who will be more reserved in pushing for change.

Otoh he does have deep relationships and has the capability to be highly effective if he wants to. I just hope he isn't too naive (like Obama) about the cravenness of the gop.

You would think that the Garland, Ukraine etc sagas would have taught him that.... But IDK.


I had more confidence in Warren taking them on, but her campaign has been horribly run from the start (eg her DNA test..)
As a consolation, I hope Biden wins and puts her in a powerful position and let the technocrat run.

 

[fskimospy]

There was an Atlantic article on this the other day. Essentially, the entire notion of national political momentum is a lie, or even the sense of an American identity. Politics has become a tribalistic game of power brokers and backroom deals, as exemplified by the change in fortune of status quo Joe.

Biden was the presumed nominee for reasons.

He didn’t win one debate.

He isn’t running on big ideas.

I don’t see anyone energized by the idea of a Biden presidency.

Uhmm, the 2016 Republican primary would pretty conclusively prove that thesis false. Also the idea of national political momentum in primaries is pretty obviously true. Like, you can establish its effects empirically. I don't know what article you're referring to but if you're describing it accurately it is wrong.

As far as it becoming a game of power brokers and backroom deals I can only ask if that person has pulled some sort of Rip Van Winkle for the last several decades. American politics USED to be a game of power brokers and backroom deals where political patronage greased the wheels. That's why the ideological differences between the parties became so narrow in the 20th century, everyone was scratching each others' backs. For the last 30+ years though our biggest problem has been precisely that power brokers and backroom deals are no longer effective, partisans use primaries to get rid of those people and replace them with crazy ideologues.

 

[Bitek]

If Biden is smart, she will be his VP

I'm thinking Amy would be much more valuable to help win the upper mid West battlegrounds.

Warren as treasury secretary or something tho

 

[HomerJS]

Assuming it's Joe have one debate where candidates get to ask the questions of each other.

Highest rated debate ever. Joe can publicly challenge Trump to this format. Trump won't be able to refuse otherwise labelled a coward.

 

[HomerJS]

Biden gained artificial momentum by forming centrist Voltron and passing out the Obama member berries.

From where I’m standing, someone certainly didn’t learn anything from 2016.

Wall Street seems excited by status quo Joe, so there’s always that.

BTW - For Joe to be status quo he would have to turn into a corrupt racist dirtbag. I don't see that happening.

 

[ch33zw1z]

BTW - For Joe to be status quo he would have to turn into a corrupt racist dirtbag. I don't see that happening.

haha, true story. Starbuck is just getting his morning work out. The buckets are very heavy lately

 

[ewdotson]

I'm thinking Amy would be much more valuable to help win the upper mid West battlegrounds.

Warren as treasury secretary or something tho

Honestly, unless it's for the vice presidency (and I think Biden would have better strategic options), I'd just as soon see Warren stay in the Senate. I think there's an a bit of a tendency to underrate the importance of having strong, visible leadership in Congress.

 

[thilanliyan]

BTW - For Joe to be status quo he would have to turn into a corrupt racist dirtbag. I don't see that happening.

Status quo as in not much is going to change for the average American. Biden with a progressive VP would be great IMO.

I agree though that priority now is to get Trump out of office.

 

[nOOky]

Trump's tweets are incredibly effective even across the aisle. Reference some of the posts here that still think Warren's DNA and Biden's holding someone's shoulder while talks to them as reasons to disqualify them. They are only issues because Trump keeps hammering them into the public conscience.

During a debate all I think Biden has to do is look at trump when he starts his usual childish BS and say to him "do you intend to debate like an adult, or are you going to keep acting like a little child?" and totally ignore him. Getting into an argument over childish things with Trump will only turn bad for Joe. He needs to be the adult in the room, and appear to rise above the fray.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump's tweets are incredibly effective even across the aisle. Reference some of the posts here that still think Warren's DNA and Biden's holding someone's shoulder while talks to them as reasons to disqualify them. They are only issues because Trump keeps hammering them into the public conscience.

During a debate all I think Biden has to do is look at trump when he starts his usual childish BS and say to him "do you intend to debate like an adult, or are you going to keep acting like a little child?" and totally ignore him. Getting into an argument over childish things with Trump will only turn bad for Joe. He needs to be the adult in the room, and appear to rise above the fray.

I agree that whoever the Democratic nominee is should not engage Trump directly other than to do things like what you mention, that's what we have Blomberg for, and if Bernie wins and keeps pushing away Boomberg's operation that's political malpractice. You have the nominee act cool and responsible and have Bloomberg's operation raze Trump to the ground.

 

[HomerJS]

Trump's tweets are incredibly effective even across the aisle. Reference some of the posts here that still think Warren's DNA and Biden's holding someone's shoulder while talks to them as reasons to disqualify them. They are only issues because Trump keeps hammering them into the public conscience.

During a debate all I think Biden has to do is look at trump when he starts his usual childish BS and say to him "do you intend to debate like an adult, or are you going to keep acting like a little child?" and totally ignore him. Getting into an argument over childish things with Trump will only turn bad for Joe. He needs to be the adult in the room, and appear to rise above the fray.

Also keep hammering for his taxes. Claiming audit is a lie. Just keep hammering that. All your corruption in public does not bode well for you taxes. Trump brings up Hunter, Joe just says, he's an adult ask him. Now where are your taxes?

 

[Muse]

If you think they are the same why would you support one over the other?

He wants an excuse to tune out and play his video games.

 

[dank69]

Debate Rules: A rope delineated ring. Both candidates need to appear in wrestling singlets. Just imagine Trump! I would be peeing myself in laughter and schadenfreude, and not even caring that I'd have to throw the pee-stained couch out!

First one to shit themselves on stage loses.

 

[Jhhnn]

haha, true story. Starbuck is just getting his morning work out. The buckets are very heavy lately

Yeh, but he's so concerned. I can't recall when he didn't tear down the Dems or make excuses for whatever chickenshit fuckover the Trump admin was executing at the time. I figure he champions Bernie for the same reasons as Russian media.