Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[A///]

@pcgeek11 does it make you sad that other people are getting to blow holes in Russian ships and subs? (Without you, that is)

At his age and the advent of cialis and viagra, probably.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Can one of you military folks explain to me this Triumph system Ukraine blew up with missiles and drones? What kind of shit system is it that costs 1.2B USD and still can't fucking intercept jack shit?

Or was it 1.2B rubles?

From my understanding it's similar to our patriot system, semi-modular with radar components, control/integration components, and actual launchers that can vary in count. It sounds like this one was bristling, with a bunch of ammo to boot. As for why it failed at its job? No idea, UKR tactics combined with 'because Russia'? And no, that was $1.2B USD. It was a very high profile kill, relatively speaking.

 

[kage69]

Ukraine has hit ships at sea, too. You seem to forget this. Drones don't need to be multi million dollar units we deploy ourselves. You may want to do some reading up on newcomers to the market that are snapping up DOD contracts like wildfire. Alongside UK and Aus governments. Creating fear in the enemy is enough for them to constantly ponder and look up opening themselves up to fuck ups in the field that get them within crosshairs or easy to eliminate in other ways.


Send out loitering munition drones with a high range which exist and which are deployed in ukraine, they find a target, nose dive and cut the engine in waves to minimise noise. Boom. Bus of troops, tanks, heavy anti air gone within seconds. Price per unit is going to be cheaper than risking troops or your own heavy hardware.

It took forever for the administration to grow some balls and send cluster munitions to Ukraine. Cheap, effective, and will litter Ukrainian fields with future Russian origin fertilizer. There's a news site out of Virginia that caters to easy to digest news. defensenews. You can query drone on there and read up about the advanced. 5-50K per shot/kill loitering drones and ucavs under $3m are the new era of weaponry. Reducing risk to soldiers on the ground and minimising the loss of more expensive equipment made to achieve the same or similar result.

lol ok


For someone who wants to critique my posts you sure don't sound like you've read any of them. I'm still surprised a post of mine that didn't mention strategy, tactics, or even particular weapons has you on this kind of rant. Feelin ok? I mean that is quite an assortment of irrelevant cherries you picked there.

Tell you what, I'm going to forego how I usually deal with trolls and shit talkers. Please refer to any number of my posts here in this thread and then compare them to what you just posted. Let's call it an exercise in intellectual honesty, shall we? Show me your opinion is worth well, anything.

 

[K1052]

From my understanding it's similar to our patriot system, semi-modular with radar components, control/integration components, and actual launchers that can vary in count. It sounds like this one was bristling, with a bunch of ammo to boot. As for why it failed at its job? No idea, UKR tactics combined with 'because Russia'? And no, that was $1.2B USD. It was a very high profile kill, relatively speaking.

This is the second S-400 to get hit by Neptune, a subsonic cruise missile that the system certainly should be able to engage. Indications are that drones were used to disable the site's radars but that triggers the question of why the system could not target the drones or why the site was not protected by a complementary short range system.

They only lost a TEL, some ammo, and possibly have damaged sensors this time but still highly embarrassing for a system they always proclaimed to be invincible. The bulk of the system might have survived but still they shit the bed for all to see again.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ Haven't there been indications that at least some of the drones are small and made of materials radar can't see well, but can carry enough stuff to make a mess?

 

[K1052]

^^^ Haven't there been indications that at least some of the drones are small and made of materials radar can't see well, but can carry enough stuff to make a mess?

There was a video of one of the drones and it seemed fairly sizable so I kinda doubt that it would have been invisible to radar.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

There was a video of one of the drones and it seemed fairly sizable so I kinda doubt that it would have been invisible to radar.

I wonder why they don't just land a drone on top of say a semi truck that might be on a road traveling in the direction of the target. Once you get within a couple hundred meters, the drone can take off and the defense systems won't have time to react. Or have the drone hover behind/close to a car that is driving near the target. Maybe I'm thinking too simplistically.

 

[Roger Wilco]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702719776236175581

 

[Perknose]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702719776236175581

I wonder if there's a "window of opportunity" for a permanent cure.

 

[K1052]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702719776236175581

Is now when I learn that "coma" is Chechen for "goat"?

Anyway he's been on death's door before supposedly so not getting excited. Only person who enjoys a good hospital visit more is Bolsonaro.

 

[pcgeek11]

@pcgeek11 does it make you sad that other people are getting to blow holes in Russian ships and subs? (Without you, that is)

Yes. I'd love to see the Submarine...

 

[Jaskalas]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

Putin will suffer no regional leaders. Any Russian who catches media attention, will eventually be killed by the Kremlin. Just ask Wagner.

 

[Jaskalas]

BTW, regarding the reasoning... and cause of this war.
I noticed a detail that I had not known of before, coming from this.

Behind the scenes in Zelenskyi’s office just before the invasion​

The Biden Administration was especially and unusually vocal about the looming Russian threat. It had first sounded an alarm in March and April 2021, when Russia began massing thousands of personnel and military equipment near its border with Ukraine and in occupied Crimea.​

​

Look at that. Mere weeks into the Biden administration. Not after Trump lost the election. But after Trump's attempted coup over the United States government failed. Once Putin's puppet was truly out of power. Once Trump could no longer deliver a splintered and destroyed NATO. The moment that was no longer possible, Putin gave the order and Russia started its preparations for the full scale invasion.

Trump AND the insurrection factored into Putin's plans.
Do not underestimate the threat of what Republicans can deliver for Russia. This entire Genocide was planned around it.
Listen to Republican media, every single day they attack Ukraine, slander Zelensky and pave the way for stabbing Ukraine, Europe, NATO in the back.
The moment Republicans gain enough power, they will side with Russia. Treason.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Have we heard this?

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World News // 4 hours ago
Britain officially designates Russia's Wagner Group as a terror organization
Sept. 15 (UPI) -- Britain banned Russia's Wagner mercenary army Friday, officially designating it a terror organization that becomes the latest addition to a 78-strong list that includes al-Qaida, ISIS, Hamas and the Irish Republican Army

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Or how about this?

Russian Elite Unit Commander Killed in Ukraine: ISW​

Vasily Popov, the commander of the 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment, was reportedly killed last week, said the U.S.-based think tank.



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[kage69]

Well well well...

Senate to give Musk a thorough probing...

“The committee is aggressively probing this issue from every angle,” Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) said in a statement. The announcement comes just before an expected visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to the U.S. Capitol next week. Musk, who wields control over a large number of active satellites, claimed this week that he would have needed U.S. approval to activate Starlink technology in occupied Crimea. Ukrainian and U.S. officials have blasted Musk for withholding the satellite tech: “Neither Elon Musk, nor any private citizen, can have the last word when it comes to U.S. national security,” Reed said in his statement.


Musk seems to think a South African is entitled to at least some words though. I guess now it's our turn to scare the little dipshit.

 

[misuspita]

Romania just closed it's air space for 30-40km around the site the russian drones fell. Nothing flies in the area under 4000m. Gepard AA brought in

 

[A///]

lol ok


For someone who wants to critique my posts you sure don't sound like you've read any of them. I'm still surprised a post of mine that didn't mention strategy, tactics, or even particular weapons has you on this kind of rant. Feelin ok? I mean that is quite an assortment of irrelevant cherries you picked there.

Tell you what, I'm going to forego how I usually deal with trolls and shit talkers. Please refer to any number of my posts here in this thread and then compare them to what you just posted. Let's call it an exercise in intellectual honesty, shall we? Show me your opinion is worth well, anything.

I don't judge people with mental health issues. I've seen your posts before. They're not that interesting. Although I do like the ones where you essentially smack grasshopper around. We all pray his mouth let's go of Putler's ballsack.

 

[A///]

I wonder why they don't just land a drone on top of say a semi truck that might be on a road traveling in the direction of the target. Once you get within a couple hundred meters, the drone can take off and the defense systems won't have time to react. Or have the drone hover behind/close to a car that is driving near the target. Maybe I'm thinking too simplistically.

Like a trojan horse attack? The vehicle would have to be going the direction you wanted it to go. Ideally a tall vehicle like a lorry where the drone or drones can sit amongst themselves and lift off as they get close to the target. There's videos of Ruskis in Crimea checking underneath cars but they aren't inspecting the tops of lorries.

 

[A///]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702719776236175581

Read an article a few days ago he was walking around town (IDR the name of the city he resides in his "palace") dazed and confused. According to the report Putin had him taken to Moscow for treatment. Drugs, alcohol or poisoning. Take your pick.

 

[A///]

Listen to Republican media, every single day they attack Ukraine, slander Zelensky and pave the way for stabbing Ukraine, Europe, NATO in the back.
The moment Republicans gain enough power, they will side with Russia. Treason.

I think this was known by day one for those of us in the middle or the left. Going back several years, long before Trump, there was a bizarre admiration for Russia and Russian politics by those on the right. I didn't pay much attention to it myself being an expat but still voting in local and federal elections and assumed it was fringe politics. To say the Russian interference in our politics began with Trump's announcement for the run at the presidency would be wrong. I think we need to back further to find the source of when Ruski interference began in this country. Early Obama administration, Bush? Clinton?

In international politics and interference there's a concept of China's century of humiliation at the hands of other countries and how they want to serve retribution for being "wronged" by those countries. I can see Russia being the same. They were terribly humiliated losing the cold war and the USSR crumbling, and keep getting embarrassed on the international stage. Our troops making mince meat out of Wagnercrooks a few years ago was talk of the town. When Ruzia realises they have no reason to keep fighting a war they lost in the first week it's going to destroy the fiber of their being. It'll be a massive power vacuum inside Russia and a dangerous situation. It'll be a long road, especially for their brainwashed citizen.

 

[kage69]

GUR reporting that Kadyrov is in a coma.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1702719776236175581

That's an old pic of him, his head is like twice that wide now. I wonder if he finally over dosed on something. Ukrainians were saying he went on a bender, ended up walking around in his pajamas, out of his gourd, got picked up by FSB. They said Putin ordered a detox, stat. I didn't give it much thought, 'prolly just propaganda.'

If true and it was the detoxs I've heard of opiate addicts getting, they come with risks. There's a chance you don't make it if there for alcoholism and opiates I think. Maybe others too not sure. I wonder if that's what happened. Guy has been off his rocker lately, but Putin needs him. If he's not sane and reliable anymore then he's a liability. Can't have the Chechens declaring independence again, certainly not while they're in the process of being driven out of Crimea. Goodbye Russian Federation.

 

[A///]

Well well well...

Senate to give Musk a thorough probing...

“The committee is aggressively probing this issue from every angle,” Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) said in a statement. The announcement comes just before an expected visit by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to the U.S. Capitol next week. Musk, who wields control over a large number of active satellites, claimed this week that he would have needed U.S. approval to activate Starlink technology in occupied Crimea. Ukrainian and U.S. officials have blasted Musk for withholding the satellite tech: “Neither Elon Musk, nor any private citizen, can have the last word when it comes to U.S. national security,” Reed said in his statement.


Musk seems to think a South African is entitled to at least some words though. I guess now it's our turn to scare the little dipshit.

I wonder if he understands the gravity of his actions. He's done and said a lot unrelated to this war that makes you question whether he has a firm grasp on reality. Do we have any laws or acts that allow the government to take over a company for national security reasons?

 

[A///]

From my understanding it's similar to our patriot system, semi-modular with radar components, control/integration components, and actual launchers that can vary in count. It sounds like this one was bristling, with a bunch of ammo to boot. As for why it failed at its job? No idea, UKR tactics combined with 'because Russia'? And no, that was $1.2B USD. It was a very high profile kill, relatively speaking.

Do you think it was a matter of luck and undertrained Russians without any concept of layered defense manning the equipment and opening themselves up to attack? Should be easy going for Ukraine in a few months if they can keep this kind of pressure up and come in with aircraft later to decimate whatevers left of Russia on their land.

 

[Dave_5k]

I wonder if he understands the gravity of his actions. He's done and said a lot unrelated to this war that makes you question whether he has a firm grasp on reality. Do we have any laws or acts that allow the government to take over a company for national security reasons?

The closest I can think of is the Defense Production Act, which allows the president to specifically order production and services from a company to be prioritized for the US government, as needed to promote the national defense, but doesn't allow actually taking over a company.