Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Watch netblocks have their account suspended in the next 72 hours once news agencies pick it up.

edit: Elon musk is a shithead.
 
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Saw it earlier today while scanning news sites. Can't find it at the momemt and don't want his name in my search history.

Basically, he supports China's position and thinks the US is wrong for 'interfering in reunification.
 

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Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action!
Fortunately the cruise missiles weren't reliant on the whim of Musk and still hit their targets. But he most likely did cripple the effectiveness of the accompanying drones, as Musk once again helps protect the Russian fleet with that purely coincidental total outage of Starlink during yet another Sevastopol attack.
 

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Saw it earlier today while scanning news sites. Can't find it at the momemt and don't want his name in my search history.

Basically, he supports China's position and thinks the US is wrong for 'interfering in reunification.
I'm not discounting what you claim. It sounds right in line with what that dumbass says. It's the fucking gall that twat has to say it.
 
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Found it a different way .....


Musk calls Taiwan a 'part of China' and blames US for blocking 'reunification effort'

www.msn.com.ico
Washington Examiner on MSN.com|48 minutes ago
Elon Musk appeared to pick a side in the China-Taiwan controversy, stating that the island is "part of China" despite its push for economic and political independence from the country.



It was probably on AP which is why that rag picked it up ...
 

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Found it a different way .....


Musk calls Taiwan a 'part of China' and blames US for blocking 'reunification effort'

www.msn.com.ico
Washington Examiner on MSN.com|48 minutes ago
Elon Musk appeared to pick a side in the China-Taiwan controversy, stating that the island is "part of China" despite its push for economic and political independence from the country.



It was probably on AP which is why that rag picked it up ...
Oh that may be because Tesla wants to expand in China and he's kissing China's arse, thought as you say it's him being a twat.
 

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How many of them land where they are supposed to and actually explode?
Well, Russia has had sufficient artillery that landing exactly where they are supposed to wasn't a big deal, they just use massed blanket coverage with multiple artillery batteries. And if only ~80% explode, oh well. As long as they had a 10:1 (or far more) advantage in artillery, and comparable range they could get away with it and come out ahead ~ but this is mostly no longer the case.

Satellite image from a bit back of artillery coverage near front lines of Bakhmut I believe... with thousands of artillery craters on just one intersection and surrounding fields.
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Well, Russia has had sufficient artillery that landing exactly where they are supposed to wasn't a big deal, they just use massed blanket coverage with multiple artillery batteries. And if only ~80% explode, oh well. As long as they had a 10:1 (or far more) advantage in artillery, and comparable range they could get away with it and come out ahead ~ but this is mostly no longer the case.

Satellite image from a bit back of artillery coverage near front lines of Bakhmut I believe... with thousands of artillery craters on just one intersection and surrounding fields.
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Russian and to an extent soviet doctrine relies on artillery more than western doctrine does. Artillery shells don't need a direct hit to cause injury. Blast radius or even the constant drumming of artillery exploding near or around you will mess with your psychey and disorient you over time. I'm not an expert on this stuff but I was told by a vietnam vet once that enough artillery near or around you will slowly damage your vestibular system and the tiny hairs in your inner ear. One helps oyu with balance and not wanting to feel nauseous and the other is essential for hearing. The Ukrainians hiding from those bombardments will be scarred for years to come given enough time.
 

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This is just a friendly reminder that the United States defeated Iraq within 4 days of Operation Desert Sabre, and within a month and a half of Operation Desert Storm, during the First Persian Gulf War.

Later the Second Gulf War (agree with it or not) was started on March 20th and Baghdad was captured by April 9th.

Iraq was, at the time of the invasions, a more militarily capable force than Ukraine was at the start of the Russian invasion.

Russia has already lost their conflict, now it's just a question of how badly they want to lose.
 

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My guess is he ran out of fuel or engine flamed out and couldn't restart given the glide he was on. I can't make out any landing gear. I don't know how well military jets can turn and glide because I presume they're not as graceful as a prop plane.
Military jets tend not to have airfoils for their wings, it's just flat plate so the lift you get it low speeds is very small. Add to that their smaller wing areas and they are good at gliding. They count on their massive engines to keep them flying.
 

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looks like smuggling is working
Mafia state gonna mafia. Sanctions only slow them down.

edit: Russia's GDP grew recently, mostly because they're full-swing into a war-time economy according to this link.

The West will need to keep up with Russia. Doing so is going to increase political pressure in the West. Putin is banking on outlasting Western politicians via political attrition as much as anything else.
 
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What type tanks would be more interesting for me to know.

There are...problems with a number of figures in that article. Russian tank "production" is now in large part dedicated to overhauling stored units with varying levels of modernization. In short they are mostly burning through their stockpile not churning out new builds.
 

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Military jets tend not to have airfoils for their wings, it's just flat plate so the lift you get it low speeds is very small. Add to that their smaller wing areas and they are good at gliding. They count on their massive engines to keep them flying.
Wait what? military planes still have air foils, but the wing loading (depending on the role/design) is optimized for different things. A straight line interceptor like the F-104 is optimized for straight line speed to intercept and has thin wings for correspondingly lower drag and better speed. As a result it also has dogshit low speed performance. Thinner wings mean smaller fuel storage and shorter range (hence the need for external tanks).

A multirole fighter/ground attack plane needs better low speed performance and speed isnt quite as imperative so the wing loadings are lower and the foil provides more lift, facilitating higher combat loadings and (depending on the design) increasing maneuverability.
 
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We are not sure that NK will supply arms to Russia. Apparently while China likes Russia for sticking it to the West, they really don't like this war. They just want it to go away. They may be very unhappy with NK if they decide to help out in a massive way.

Russia seems to have offered to help NK with launching satellites. And a NK person will go into space at some point on a Russia rocket. We don't know what NK have offered in return.
If Russia helps NK with rocket/ballistic missile technology, that would be very bad for SK/Japan and China as well. It might push SK to do something to show its displeasure.
 

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If Russia helps NK with rocket/ballistic missile technology, that would be very bad for SK/Japan and China as well. It might push SK to do something to show its displeasure.

Ukraine would be willing and able to try out some of the many fine products from South Korean defense industry on the Russians.
 

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Wait what? military planes still have air foils, but the wing loading (depending on the role/design) is optimized for different things. A straight line interceptor like the F-104 is optimized for straight line speed to intercept and has thin wings for correspondingly lower drag and better speed. As a result it also has dogshit low speed performance. Thinner wings mean smaller fuel storage and shorter range (hence the need for external tanks).

A multirole fighter/ground attack plane needs better low speed performance and speed isnt quite as imperative so the wing loadings are lower and the foil provides more lift, facilitating higher combat loadings and (depending on the design) increasing maneuverability.
Yes, I guess they are do have a variation in thickness but it's basically a plate.
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