CoinOperatedBoy
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sactoking
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That is where you are wrong. The act of going slow in the left lane does NOT put others at risk. YOUR reaction to someone going slow is what puts others at risk. Don't believe me? The nest time you get in an accident solely because you had to pass someone on the right, try to make that argument.
"It's not my fault! He was the proximate cause because he was going the speed limit! I HAD to whip around him and lose control/cut that other guy off!"
Just try not to take it personally when you get laughed out of court.
QueBert
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I'm not forcing anyone to pass me, and I'm not making a single person have to break the law. If they chose to speed, that's their own doing. And if they're in an accident because they make a choice to speed, that's 100% on them. If I'm doing 65 (the limit) and some asshat zooms around me and causes an accident, that's all on him.
I bet speeding is a factor in many accidents, and speeding + an accident is ALWAYS worse than the same accident with no speeding involved.
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i never said anything about accidents in my post, no clue why you rambled on about it.
another moron here.
so why not move over to the right lane and go the speed limit out of common courtesy to everyone else on the road, instead of being selfish and holding up the cars behind you that want to go around you because you think you are the law?
no need to try and save yourself, you have already declared yourself a moron.
zerocool84
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dainthomas
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I've never quoted myself before, but I figured you missed my original post. I think you're using all three reasons to justify your actions. Since you have to be over the age of 12 to be driving, it might be time to develop the maturity commensurate with your age.
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
What if you're in a state that has a law that you move your slow ass over to the right lane?
he would never do that ever, he doesn't break the law ever, doesn't even go 1 MPH over the speed limit EVAR!
he's the police, remember?
CoinOperatedBoy
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Speed limits are based partially on the expected average speed of travelers. Help raise speed limits by speeding! Participate in the process!
I average about 30,000 miles a year on SoCal freeways, mostly in the left lane, with many miles/hours of stop and go traffic. I do mostly whatever it takes to keep the greatest number of people no more pissed off than they already are.
About 10 years ago, just for shits and giggles, I made a tray with a 1/4-20 screw to hold a camera with a rubber lens hood, against the passenger window. A wired remote is attached. The game became to first try and get the drivers in the next lane centered in the image, but mostly to catch those candid moments of stress or nasal passage cleansing or makeuppery or snacking . . .
Camera brackets for several guys and gals got made, too. It was once far more frequent, but as the novelty wore off, it has dropped down to maybe 20 mostly funny captures a month, among 5 of us.
One woman keeps threatening to YouTube a "best of" slide show presentatation. I bet the odds are at least 1 in 5280 that an ATOTer has been snapped somewhere along the way.
Peoples is tha craziest things.
About 10 years ago, just for shits and giggles, I made a tray with a 1/4-20 screw to hold a camera with a rubber lens hood, against the passenger window. A wired remote is attached. The game became to first try and get the drivers in the next lane centered in the image, but mostly to catch those candid moments of stress or nasal passage cleansing or makeuppery or snacking . . .
Camera brackets for several guys and gals got made, too. It was once far more frequent, but as the novelty wore off, it has dropped down to maybe 20 mostly funny captures a month, among 5 of us.
One woman keeps threatening to YouTube a "best of" slide show presentatation. I bet the odds are at least 1 in 5280 that an ATOTer has been snapped somewhere along the way.
Peoples is tha craziest things.
arcenite
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The left lane is the passing lane. You shouldn't stay there unless you have to.
Only reasons I can think of off the top of my head (barring construction/rush hour/etc):
1.) You are passing traffic
2.) There is an upcoming exit on the left
If you are doing the speed limit in the left lane without passing traffic, get over. If you stay there purposefully, you potentially pose more of a danger than you would if you were speeding. Sure, if you get hit by someone or someone gets in an accident trying to get around you, it's not legally your fault; but there is no reason to stay in the passing lane if you are not doing just that.
Please note, I am not "a speeder". I would be if my vehicle allowed me to be, but if I want any type of prayer at a decent gas mileage in my 2 ton jeep I need to take it easy.
Only reasons I can think of off the top of my head (barring construction/rush hour/etc):
1.) You are passing traffic
2.) There is an upcoming exit on the left
If you are doing the speed limit in the left lane without passing traffic, get over. If you stay there purposefully, you potentially pose more of a danger than you would if you were speeding. Sure, if you get hit by someone or someone gets in an accident trying to get around you, it's not legally your fault; but there is no reason to stay in the passing lane if you are not doing just that.
Please note, I am not "a speeder". I would be if my vehicle allowed me to be, but if I want any type of prayer at a decent gas mileage in my 2 ton jeep I need to take it easy.
Hey Que, I understand where you are coming from about not wanting to break the law. But you have to realize that if you are camping in the left lane and have an opportunity to move to the right to allow speeding traffic to pass and over take you, you are often breaking the law, even though the speeders are breaking the law as well.
However, you mentioned being in traffic, stuck in the left lane, doing the speed limit. If you DON't have an opportunity to move over, then you could cause an accident by trying to merge over, and I wouldn't bitch if I was trying to over take you. However, if you are doing 65 in a 65, in the left lane, nobody is in front of you, there is a car directly to your right, doing 65, and they don't have anyone in front of them, you should speed up to pass and get over. WHY? Because if you don't, you could possibly be cited. In Illinois, if you are in the left lane for more than 1/4 mile and do not pass and get back into one of the right lanes, you can get a ticket. So you would want to speed up and get over to avoid getting a ticket.
Bottom line is, many states have, and many states are progressing towards laws that make driving in the left lane for any reason besides passing a fineable offense, just like speeding. I've seen traffic in Illinois backed up in the left lane because someone was camping, with a State cop in the line of backed up cars. I've seen the cop flip on his lights, and make his way through traffic and pull that person over.
nerp
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It's not a FAST lane. It's a PASSING lane. That's why you have no right to float in it happily. Your wheels should be in it ONLY when you're passing someone. If you're stuck in traffic in that lane, OK. But once traffic gets moving, it's your obligation to follow the law and move over and continue driving the speed limit in the *gasp* travel lane.
This is TRUE. Especially in Illinois. Not only is it a passing lane, law actually states a maximum distance you have to pass. If you can't make your pass in less than a 1/4 mile, you can still get a ticket for being in the left lane.
So if you you're cruising down the left lane, doing the speed limit, laughing at the people trying to pass you because they can't, and you think you are doing no wrong, don't feel stupid when a state trooper pulls you over. I've actually seen it happen on I-64 in southwest illinois outside of st. louis. Guy was camping in left lane with about 15 cars behind him, and everyone was having to pass on the right. A state trooper was one of those cars, caught up to the guy, and pulled him over. I was a few cars behind the trooper so I saw it all happen.
Part of the reason is not only for passing vehicles, but for emergency vehicles which have legal right to speed and may need an unobstructed path. That's why illinois gives you 1/4 mile to pass.
QueBert
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People here don't read (not directed at you) I said this... I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it. I didn't I say I always drive 65 and always do it in the fast lane. If there traffic is heavy (like I said) I'll get in the fast lane because if I'm in the other lanes I gotta deal with idiots trying to dog in and out to cut their commute by 120 seconds. In the fast lane I only have to deal with idiots trying to cut in from 1 direction, where if I'm in the middle I got fucktards on both sides trying to cut in and out every few seconds when they see a small opening.
The code isn't completely clear to me at this point. The (a) portion seems to apply to passing someone on the right if they're making a left hand turn but blocking the main lane on a 2 lane road. (b) looks like you aren't allowed to pass on the right if you leave the roadway which is what I stated initially. I believe that the handbook and the code do agree on this point although I'm certainly not an expert on these things.
For those arguing that they don't need to stay right I'd like to point out that the Texas Transportation Code has a section that covers this (with how much respect Texas gets around here I don't expect this to carry too much water, however):
Notice it doesn't mention "speed limit" anywhere.
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