PSA: If you are getting passed in your car on the right side, GET THE FACK OVER!

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: nerp


It's not a FAST lane. It's a PASSING lane. That's why you have no right to float in it happily. Your wheels should be in it ONLY when you're passing someone. If you're stuck in traffic in that lane, OK. But once traffic gets moving, it's your obligation to follow the law and move over and continue driving the speed limit in the *gasp* travel lane.

Not in California, where QueBert is from.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: QueBert
I bet speeding is a factor in many accidents, and speeding + an accident is ALWAYS worse than the same accident with no speeding involved.

Hey Que, I understand where you are coming from about not wanting to break the law. But you have to realize that if you are camping in the left lane and have an opportunity to move to the right to allow speeding traffic to pass and over take you, you are often breaking the law, even though the speeders are breaking the law as well.

However, you mentioned being in traffic, stuck in the left lane, doing the speed limit. If you DON't have an opportunity to move over, then you could cause an accident by trying to merge over, and I wouldn't bitch if I was trying to over take you. However, if you are doing 65 in a 65, in the left lane, nobody is in front of you, there is a car directly to your right, doing 65, and they don't have anyone in front of them, you should speed up to pass and get over. WHY? Because if you don't, you could possibly be cited. In Illinois, if you are in the left lane for more than 1/4 mile and do not pass and get back into one of the right lanes, you can get a ticket. So you would want to speed up and get over to avoid getting a ticket.

Bottom line is, many states have, and many states are progressing towards laws that make driving in the left lane for any reason besides passing a fineable offense, just like speeding. I've seen traffic in Illinois backed up in the left lane because someone was camping, with a State cop in the line of backed up cars. I've seen the cop flip on his lights, and make his way through traffic and pull that person over.

People here don't read (not directed at you) I said this... I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it. I didn't I say I always drive 65 and always do it in the fast lane. If there traffic is heavy (like I said) I'll get in the fast lane because if I'm in the other lanes I gotta deal with idiots trying to dog in and out to cut their commute by 120 seconds. In the fast lane I only have to deal with idiots trying to cut in from 1 direction, where if I'm in the middle I got fucktards on both sides trying to cut in and out every few seconds when they see a small opening.

I agree, as I stated above. It's all about how dense traffic is. The left lane passing thing assumes there is enough space within traffic to abide by that law, and the laws on the books (from what I remember reading about illinois) include exceptions to heavy traffic.

 

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: BornStar
For those arguing that they don't need to stay right I'd like to point out that the Texas Transportation Code has a section that covers this (with how much respect Texas gets around here I don't expect this to carry too much water, however):

(b)An operator of a vehicle on a roadway moving more slowly than the normal speed of other vehicles at the time and place under the existing conditions shall drive in the right-hand lane available for vehicles, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, unless the operator is:
(1)passing another vehicle; or
(2)preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

Notice it doesn't mention "speed limit" anywhere.

Haven't looked at Texas, but if it's like California (which isn't given) the speed limit section is in another statute. For example, California 21654 reads:

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation of subdivision (a) of this section.

(c) The Department of Transportation, with respect to state highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.

and California 22400 reads:

22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.

No person shall bring a vehicle to a complete stop upon a highway so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the stop is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.

(b) Whenever the Department of Transportation determines on the basis of an engineering and traffic survey that slow speeds on any part of a state highway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, the department may determine and declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive a vehicle, except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law, when appropriate signs giving notice thereof are erected along the part of the highway for which a minimum speed limit is established.

Subdivision (b) of this section shall apply only to vehicles subject to registration.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Yreka
AMEN

Good friend of mine is a CHP.. Every year, for my birthday I have requested he spend his entire day on I5 pulling these people over and handing out obstruction tickets.

why not ask him to pull over people speeding? It's illegal and puts other people at risk. Me driving the speed limit is SAFE and puts nobody at risk. I drive the speed limit no matter what lane I'm in. The fast lane doesn't magically have a higher speed limit. I don't get how breaking the law is okay when it suits the person doing it. breaking a law is breaking a law, there should be no argument. if you guys want to break the law, that's fine. I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it.

Get over in the right lane.

Quit excessive speeding and you won't find a lot of people "obstructing" your vehicle. If you're speeding in the left lane while not passing someone, then you're breaking 2 laws: speeding and causing an obstruction. It's quite simple.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: mcmilljb

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Yreka
AMEN

Good friend of mine is a CHP.. Every year, for my birthday I have requested he spend his entire day on I5 pulling these people over and handing out obstruction tickets.

why not ask him to pull over people speeding? It's illegal and puts other people at risk. Me driving the speed limit is SAFE and puts nobody at risk. I drive the speed limit no matter what lane I'm in. The fast lane doesn't magically have a higher speed limit. I don't get how breaking the law is okay when it suits the person doing it. breaking a law is breaking a law, there should be no argument. if you guys want to break the law, that's fine. I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it.

Get over in the right lane.

Quit excessive speeding and you won't find a lot of people "obstructing" your vehicle. If you're speeding in the left lane while not passing someone, then you're breaking 2 laws: speeding and causing an obstruction. It's quite simple.

I'm a huge anti-left lane camper advocate, but you are right. Even if you want to do 90, if you too can get over and be in farther right lanes, then you should be, until you come up on a car that requires you to pass. Then pass. THen get back over. You never know, a cop could come flying doing 100mph for an emergency and it would be best to be out of his way.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: BornStar
For those arguing that they don't need to stay right I'd like to point out that the Texas Transportation Code has a section that covers this (with how much respect Texas gets around here I don't expect this to carry too much water, however):

(b)An operator of a vehicle on a roadway moving more slowly than the normal speed of other vehicles at the time and place under the existing conditions shall drive in the right-hand lane available for vehicles, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, unless the operator is:
(1)passing another vehicle; or
(2)preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

Notice it doesn't mention "speed limit" anywhere.

Haven't looked at Texas, but if it's like California (which isn't given) the speed limit section is in another statute. For example, California 21654 reads:

21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation of subdivision (a) of this section.

(c) The Department of Transportation, with respect to state highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.

and California 22400 reads:

22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.

No person shall bring a vehicle to a complete stop upon a highway so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the stop is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.

(b) Whenever the Department of Transportation determines on the basis of an engineering and traffic survey that slow speeds on any part of a state highway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, the department may determine and declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive a vehicle, except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law, when appropriate signs giving notice thereof are erected along the part of the highway for which a minimum speed limit is established.

Subdivision (b) of this section shall apply only to vehicles subject to registration.

Breaking the law is okay though if it helps get you to your destination faster. AGAIN, I don't drive in the left lane unless there's a stupid amount of traffic and all lanes are moving the same slow ass pace. I don't care if people don't want to comply with the law. Speed, smoke crack, do whatever you like. Laws are stupid any ways right?

People who cock block in the left lane going 65 when the other lanes are open are ass hats. People who go 80-90 in the left lane are breaking the law. Neither is admirable in my eyes. But if I had to chose, I'd rather piss off Joe with the big ass f250 truck who wants to go 90 than a Cop who can give me a ticket that will cost me hundreds of $$$.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: mcmilljb

Originally posted by: MotF Bane

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Yreka
AMEN

Good friend of mine is a CHP.. Every year, for my birthday I have requested he spend his entire day on I5 pulling these people over and handing out obstruction tickets.

why not ask him to pull over people speeding? It's illegal and puts other people at risk. Me driving the speed limit is SAFE and puts nobody at risk. I drive the speed limit no matter what lane I'm in. The fast lane doesn't magically have a higher speed limit. I don't get how breaking the law is okay when it suits the person doing it. breaking a law is breaking a law, there should be no argument. if you guys want to break the law, that's fine. I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it.

Get over in the right lane.

Quit excessive speeding and you won't find a lot of people "obstructing" your vehicle. If you're speeding in the left lane while not passing someone, then you're breaking 2 laws: speeding and causing an obstruction. It's quite simple.

I'm a huge anti-left lane camper advocate, but you are right. Even if you want to do 90, if you too can get over and be in farther right lanes, then you should be, until you come up on a car that requires you to pass. Then pass. THen get back over. You never know, a cop could come flying doing 100mph for an emergency and it would be best to be out of his way.

Exactly!

I just want to know why people think it's ok to tailgate while I'm making a pass. I'm already speeding to pass the person. Just chill out and wait for me to finish the pass. The only reason you're on my ass is because you were excessively speeding and caught up to me. It's not obstructing traffic if I am driving the "normal" speed and making a pass. If most of the cars are doing 70-75, then your 80-90 is not the "normal" speed. Excessive speeding doesn't allow you tailgate or bother another driver performing a legal maneuver. It's just silly to get all upset about it. If he's camping in the left lane, bitch all you want.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: QueBert
People here don't read (not directed at you) I said this... I'm not going to police traffic, but if I end up in the "fast" lane due to traffic I'm not going 1mph over 65, deal with it. I didn't I say I always drive 65 and always do it in the fast lane. If there traffic is heavy (like I said) I'll get in the fast lane because if I'm in the other lanes I gotta deal with idiots trying to dog in and out to cut their commute by 120 seconds. In the fast lane I only have to deal with idiots trying to cut in from 1 direction, where if I'm in the middle I got fucktards on both sides trying to cut in and out every few seconds when they see a small opening.

I was more talking about having two or more basically empty lanes with Grampa QueBert poking along in the leftmost lane while trying to swap out 8 tracks in his '71 Bel Air and cursing the "hot-rodding kids" swerving around him.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mcmilljb

I just want to know why people think it's ok to tailgate while I'm making a pass. I'm already speeding to pass the person. Just chill out and wait for me to finish the pass. The only reason you're on my ass is because you were excessively speeding and caught up to me. It's not obstructing traffic if I am driving the "normal" speed and making a pass. If most of the cars are doing 70-75, then your 80-90 is not the "normal" speed. Excessive speeding doesn't allow you tailgate or bother another driver performing a legal maneuver. It's just silly to get all upset about it. If he's camping in the left lane, bitch all you want.

these are usually the cowards too afraid to pass alone.

I hate that crap too. I usually like to see down that left lane I am going to enter and it becomes impossible when the guy behind me is splitting lanes and right up on me.

 

[blurredvision]

I find it funny that this whole thread started because someone wants to get somewhere 2 minutes (or less) faster, and probably ended up getting off on an exit where they were stopped by a traffic light, while all the cars they passed pulled up behind them. Unless you drive an hour+ on the interstate one-way every day, then you can't tell me this isn't true.

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: Yreka
AMEN

Good friend of mine is a CHP.. Every year, for my birthday I have requested he spend his entire day on I5 pulling these people over and handing out obstruction tickets.

why not ask him to pull over people speeding?

Because he does that the other 364 days

You dont need to be a speeder to be negativly affected by these asshats. Just coming home this weekend from Oregon, always +/- 5mph speed limit. I still ran into a left lane camper every few miles going -15 to -20mph with a trail of cars behind them :|

 

[KoolDrew]

:thumbsup:

 

[SSSnail]

Passive aggression is caused by small penis symptoms, there, I said it.

If you hang out in the left lane and block everybody else, it's because you have a small penis. Gender does not matter in this case.

 

[Engineer]

PSA: The left lane of "Limited Access Highways" should be listed in the OP, not left turn or non-limited access multi-lane highways. There seem to be those that think that they have the right to force you to the right lane on non-limited access highways. Thank you for your time and attention.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Passive aggression is caused by small penis symptoms, there, I said it.

If you hang out in the left lane and block everybody else, it's because you have a small penis. Gender does not matter in this case.

Active aggression is no different. If I'm passing someone on the left side (not just sitting beside them, actually passing) and you try to run your bumper up my tailpipe, you have a small penis and are an asshole. There are far more of these people than those that loaf in the left lane.

Push me enough and don't back off, and I'll slow down and slowly guide my way back to the right lane by NOT passing the person that I was passing to begin with. Tailgaters suck ass and can suck my c@ck!.

 

[nsafreak]

I'm fine with this and this is usually the driving habit that I observe when I'm on the highway. Now, how about you assholes that pull up on my rear when I'm in the far right lane and there's three open lanes to your left? How about you assholes move the fuck over? I sure as hell can't move any further to the right and I'm not going to speed up. Oh and I'm not driving below the speed limit btw, I'm usually going 5+ mph above the posted limit. And this is in the FAR RIGHT LANE and I still get jerkoffs that ride my bumper.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: nsafreak
I'm fine with this and this is usually the driving habit that I observe when I'm on the highway. Now, how about you assholes that pull up on my rear when I'm in the far right lane and there's three open lanes to your left? How about you assholes move the fuck over? I sure as hell can't move any further to the right and I'm not going to speed up. Oh and I'm not driving below the speed limit btw, I'm usually going 5+ mph above the posted limit. And this is in the FAR RIGHT LANE and I still get jerkoffs that ride my bumper.

Amen brother...preach it. I agree 110%!

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Passive aggression is caused by small penis symptoms, there, I said it.

If you hang out in the left lane and block everybody else, it's because you have a small penis. Gender does not matter in this case.

Active aggression is no different. If I'm passing someone on the left side (not just sitting beside them, actually passing) and you try to run your bumper up my tailpipe, you have a small penis and are an asshole. There are far more of these people than those that loaf in the left lane.

Push me enough and don't back off, and I'll slow down and slowly guide my way back to the right lane by NOT passing the person that I was passing to begin with. Tailgaters suck ass and can suck my SMALL c@ck!.

Fixed that for ya...

 

[Svnla]

LOL @ the replies. This kind of thread and the "how much money do you make" threads are fun to read.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
I pass them on the right, cut them off as I come back over, then lay on the brakes.

Enjoy your time in the ditch, plus the huge repair bill, because if you ever did that in front of me, i'd ram you without a second thought. My Truck and the bull bar on the front can take it... your paper car can't.

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: peritusONE
I find it funny that this whole thread started because someone wants to get somewhere 2 minutes (or less) faster, and probably ended up getting off on an exit where they were stopped by a traffic light, while all the cars they passed pulled up behind them. Unless you drive an hour+ on the interstate one-way every day, then you can't tell me this isn't true.

Gee, I didn't know you were such the efficiency expert. Perhaps you and all the other left lane campers can follow us around with stopwatches, calculators, and notebooks to help us manage our time. Perhaps a dayrunner, or a pda?
I mean, you have it all figured it out. I mean there is a God out there, or an evil traffic baron looking at all the cams shaping things so that people that drive in a prompt manner get bent over at every light with red. And he has in mind you, yes you! The patient one. Green lights, blue sky, rolling pastures are your rewards. Bless the lazy! Bless the self righteous squatters!
They know all. They know people that want to drive faster don't have their act together!
Why are they driving faster? I don't know. Neither do you!

 

[edro]

I love your rant.

I hate left lane cruisers.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Wouldn't be "insane" amounts of traffic if everybody was maintaining a proper rate of speed. Irregularity in speed is what causes traffic. For the same reason that the slow guy in the left lane causes traffic, the fast guy trying to slam his way through causes traffic. Sure, the slower guy caused him to slow down, generating traffic. But if he was going a proper rate of speed in the first place, he wouldn't NEED to slow down.

Alternatively, if slower car got out of fast lane, slower car could maintain his speed, everybody who wants to drive fast can drive fast, and everybody's happy.

of course, that is FAR, FAR too logical.

That would mean the Rolling Roadblock Society would have nothing to do during peak traffic times.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Wouldn't be "insane" amounts of traffic if everybody was maintaining a proper rate of speed. Irregularity in speed is what causes traffic. For the same reason that the slow guy in the left lane causes traffic, the fast guy trying to slam his way through causes traffic. Sure, the slower guy caused him to slow down, generating traffic. But if he was going a proper rate of speed in the first place, he wouldn't NEED to slow down.

Alternatively, if slower car got out of fast lane, slower car could maintain his speed, everybody who wants to drive fast can drive fast, and everybody's happy.

of course, that is FAR, FAR too logical.

That would mean the Rolling Roadblock Society would have nothing to do during peak traffic times.

Oh yes they do, they leave 30 cars length gaps...

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: sactoking

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Could be getting chased by his ex-wife?

Well, then he's got bigger problems than me not getting over, doesn't he?

At any rate, I only do it when the person behind me is obviously a complete ass. If someone wants to pass and they're driving responsibly, I get over.

Now you are the authority on responsible driving?

Sounds like one of many jerkoffs that like to hang in the left lane on their cell phone and consider it your civic duty to piss as many people off as possible. WTF is going through your minds? "Gee George, can I tend the rabbits?" Move over 1 lane and then go back to checking your prostate.