NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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mopardude87

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Good for you. When we are young we tend to take our health for granted. And, we can because our DNA can handle that bad behavior. In my 20s I could go out until 4am, come home, get 2 hrs of sleep and go straight into work. There is no way in hell I could manage that today. I've noticed that my body aches and my back kills me if I sit down for too long. Prolonged sitting has been shown to be just as bad as smoking BTW.

Yeah from 2005 till 2010 during my "mountain dew/monster induced pc gaming years" my diet mainly consisted of junk food. Cause of medication i was on i was losing weight over gaining it. I saw my rib cage before my doctor took me off the primary medication that caused this. It was beer in 2012 i discovered and well a few times a week i would down a 6 pack. Being around other drinkers well sometimes it was upwards of 15 beers but usually it was 6 . Yeah those carbs did a number on me but at 5,11i jumped to 242 over 8 years . Dropped down to 207 as of my last doctors check in which was about 3 weeks ago. The diet is like a month old but the other various issues had me losing weight prior as well. Due to stock of things, its nothing but water i drink now. The tea lacked the caffeine and it had to much sugar. The diet stuff just has nasty artificial sweetners and well homemade is a bitch to find atm.

Also for my back i find myself walking a bit and getting up helps, i had a slip n fall back in oct of 2018 so yeah its busted up a disk. I am very functional its just if i move my computer or something heavy i may feel discomfort a while. Overall i am easing back into the routine but was told its just time so i mostly relax now. I was able to move my fully loaded CM500P Mesh computer over the weekend a few times without regret then i did it this week as well so its certainly getting better. Even worked a shovel and a hole for over 2 hours a day for 2 days and felt nothing :) The lost of weight i believe is helping the situation too.
 
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K1052

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Compare that to the Connecticut tribes, who are planning on opening their casinos starting next week before a lot of other things because they need the money :)


Realistically I'd think the appetite for gambling would be nearly non-existent at this point. I remember 2008-2009 and being in Vegas for work and it was a ghost town in the casinos...combine that with a nasty virus and I doubt gaming floors are going to be busy for a while.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Interesting question of jurisdictions. If the checkpoints are on tribal land, I don't think she can enforce an order unless there's a sub-treaty regarding road use between the tribe and the state.
Even if they do, what is the state going to do? Roll the national guard onto their reservation? That'll make for fun headlines.

"SD govt insists on exposing Native American tribe to reinfection.... 'Finish what we started!' says SD Governor"
 

ponyo

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This picture I saw of students sitting in plastic partitioned desks while wearing mask made me sad. This is madness yet might be the new norm for awhile.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/corona...vid-epicenter-seniors-exams-today-2020-05-06/
 

K1052

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Good but this should have been done in MARCH nationally.

Most infections are happening in households. You can break many transmission chains by simply isolating the positives for two weeks and looking after them. This is what Asia has been doing since this started.



 

H T C

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Going to restaurants isn't going to be the same for quite some time, after leaving lockdowns. Don't believe me? The following video is a MithBuster's take on "spreading the cold" @ a dinner party:


Replace that with COVID-19, and you get the picture.

What should be done is a serious follow up on this, with social distancing taken into account and all protective measures they can think of: repeat this experiment using the same variables but do it in a space with more tables and more "costumers" (to replicate a restaurant's environment) using only one "infected source" for the virus, and then check all the tables to see if it reached any of them, and how extensively. They'd have to change the product they used for the infection because that one spreads via contact but we'd need something that doesn't rely on contact alone.

Based on the findings, rule on the re-opening of restaurants: go ahead or not.
 
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ultimatebob

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... it kills people, why aren't you?

I think that I already had it back in early February, and the experience really wasn't much worse than the flu. Lots of coughing and difficulty breathing, but it never felt like it was going to kill me.

What's funny is that I was going to do a "Coolcoin Cares" program where the first confirmed case of 'Rona on ATOT from a Diamond Member or Lifer was going to get a t-shirt, but if I'm right I'd have to award myself the t-shirt. Awkward.
 

H T C

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I think that I already had it back in early February, and the experience really wasn't much worse than the flu. Lots of coughing and difficulty breathing, but it never felt like it was going to kill me.

What's funny is that I was going to do a "Coolcoin Cares" program where the first confirmed case of 'Rona on ATOT from a Diamond Member or Lifer was going to get a t-shirt, but if I'm right I'd have to award myself the t-shirt. Awkward.
Has it occurred to you that it could just be ... you know ... the flu?

Apply for a COVID-19 antibody test and find out.

OK, I gotta ask. Why are you so afraid of this virus? Do you have some sort of immune disease or something?

The problem with this line of thinking is that you're neglecting the people you socialize with. Should you get it, odds are you'll spread it along to up to 3 of them, which begs the question: do they have some sort of immune disease or something? And what about the 3 people they spread it to: do those people have some sort of immune disease or something as well?
 
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DrunkenSano

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I think that I already had it back in early February, and the experience really wasn't much worse than the flu. Lots of coughing and difficulty breathing, but it never felt like it was going to kill me.

What's funny is that I was going to do a "Coolcoin Cares" program where the first confirmed case of 'Rona on ATOT from a Diamond Member or Lifer was going to get a t-shirt, but if I'm right I'd have to award myself the t-shirt. Awkward.

So it's all about you? The hundred of thousands of people that have died mean nothing? You are a real piece of work.
 

ultimatebob

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Has it occurred to you that it could just be ... you know ... the flu?

Apply for a COVID-19 antibody test and find out.


The problem with this line of thinking is that you're neglecting the people you socialize with. Should you get it, odds are you'll spread it along to up to 3 of them, which begs the question: do they have some sort of immune disease or something?

I had a flu test, and it came back negative. My daughter got the same thing (although hers wasn't as bad as mine), and her flu test also came back negative. They eventually gave me a diagnosis of viral bronchitis, but again this was back in early February so they didn't really have a COVID test yet.

I'll have to get tested at some point to know for sure.
 

H T C

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I had a flu test, and it came back negative. My daughter got the same thing (although hers wasn't as bad as mine), and her flu test also came back negative. They eventually gave me a diagnosis of viral bronchitis, but again this was back in early February so they didn't really have a COVID test yet.

I'll have to get tested at some point to know for sure.
From what i heard, COVID-19 antibody tests are much more available than COVID-19 infection tests so you should have no problems having it done.
 

DrMrLordX

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Even if they do, what is the state going to do? Roll the national guard onto their reservation? That'll make for fun headlines.

More likely to deploy an army of lawyers and lobby allies in D.C. to bully them. Not sure how much (if any) funding they get from the Feds, but if you get money from Washington, you're vulnerable.

This isn't sad, it's smart.

Smart is having kids take class from home.
 

CZroe

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And a Mexican town providing payback for the border wall…


What "border wall?"

Seriously...

Shows why basic research can be so important. You never know what may come out from discoveries

They wouldn't be "discoveries" if we knew.

Come on, dude. :rolleyes:

This is just more conspiracy theory without some kind of actual proof that this has or would happen.
The part of his post you were referring to was just him telling you that he was taking about making the patent rights holders sell it at their production cost, not the government or healthcare providers, who already paid the manufacturers their asking price with a profit on top. Of course, patent holders selling the fruits of their patent at-cost totally defeats the purpose of a patent.

One thing about this video is the fact that they are trying so hard to censor it. So obviously there is some truth to it and they don't want it out there. Could be it's exaggerated or some points aren't true though, don't know.

There's all sorts of crazy conspiracy stuff like flat earth theory, chemtrails, 9/11 was an inside job etc out there... but as far as I know none of that is really censored. Even stuff that is true is not really censored that much, but it seems anything to do with covid-19 is under serious scrutiny and censorship across the board. Makes you wonder.
Come on, Red. We all know that the difference here is that believing in Loose Change, Chemtrails, Flat Earth never killed anyone.

Oh wait-scratch that last one:

;)

...but, seriously: The different really is that the others don't misinform people about matters where lives are literally on the line. Surely, you can see the difference.

Lol just picturing everyone at their table with mask on and they go to eat. "oh" "Pack it up, we need to take it to go".

I think what would be more practical is to open these places but with limited amount of people at a time. Take a restaurant with 10 tables, well only allow 5 tables to be filled. Or barber shop with 10 chairs only allow 5 etc. And everything is appointment/book only so nobody just waiting in the waiting room. Can alternate tables/chairs while others get sanitized. Basically open everything at like half capacity.
That's exactly what most places around here are doing. Well, most that actually reopened for dine-in. Even here in Georgia, which seemed ready to reopen faster than other states in the face of much criticism, many if not most places are still carry-out, curbside, delivery, or drive-thru only. I have seen a few taped-off tables with signs like "this table off limits in order to maintain COVID-19 guidelines for social distancing"
 
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ponyo

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I feel like the goalpost have been moved from we must flatten the curve to help the overwhelmed hospitals to now we must make sure no one gets sick from Covid-19.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I feel like the goalpost have been moved from we must flatten the curve to help the overwhelmed hospitals to now we must make sure no one gets sick from Covid-19.
The goalposts have always been 'make sure as few people die as possible'. Initially that was flatten the curve because we had an absolute fuckton of sick people and we needed people to stop interacting. The next thing was stop overwhelming hospitals because the hospitals were being overwhelmed. We're finally over that part, so now we're trying to keep people sick.

Let me try this from a different perspective.

"I feel like the goalpost was moved from 'we need to pull the ripcord' to 'we need the parachute to slow us from terminal velocity to the velocity that keeps our body from breaking in half on impact with pavement' to 'we need to maintain our current speed until we hit the ground'."
 

ultimatebob

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I feel like the goalpost have been moved from we must flatten the curve to help the overwhelmed hospitals to now we must make sure no one gets sick from Covid-19.

The goal (in the NYC tri-state area, anyway) seems to be the prevention of new large scale outbreaks. I'm not really sure if that's possible, but they seem hell-bent on trying.
 

FelixDeCat

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Since this virus killed more men that women, shouldn't we refer to this as a MANdemic?

This mandemic has been particularly sexist. 7G3zITG.png
 
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They would've be "discoveries" if we knew.

Come on, dude. :rolleyes:
I honestly don't know what you're complaining about.

I was merely pointing out to the basic research haters who think studying X is useless as those studies from many years prior may actually have substantial value later on.
 

DrMrLordX

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Since this virus killed more men that women, shouldn't we refer to this as a MANdemic?

This mandemic has been particularly sexist. View attachment 20826

It's great for men that don't die.

I honestly don't know what you're complaining about.

I was merely pointing out to the basic research haters who think studying X is useless as those studies from many years prior may actually have substantial value later on.

Pitches like that lead to pork when you're talking about government spending. Lobster treadmills could lead to the next great breakthrough! Look at how they discovered Viagra! Etc. I've seen it before on infotainment news shows. Some lobbyist on Fox News defending a pet project.
 

K1052

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Smart is having kids take class from home.

Not if you’ve quashed your outbreak. I’ve talked to a couple people here that have school age kids home doing remote learning and it’s...not optimal to say the least.