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Red Squirrel

Red Squirrel

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One thing about this video is the fact that they are trying so hard to censor it. So obviously there is some truth to it and they don't want it out there. Could be it's exaggerated or some points aren't true though, don't know.

There's all sorts of crazy conspiracy stuff like flat earth theory, chemtrails, 9/11 was an inside job etc out there... but as far as I know none of that is really censored. Even stuff that is true is not really censored that much, but it seems anything to do with covid-19 is under serious scrutiny and censorship across the board. Makes you wonder.
 
DrMrLordX

DrMrLordX

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Red Squirrel said:
One thing about this video is the fact that they are trying so hard to censor it. So obviously there is some truth to it and they don't want it out there. Could be it's exaggerated or some points aren't true though, don't know.
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It's poorly-organized, and it pulls together multiple sources that should probably stand independently on their own. It could do with a lot more documentation and evidence. It implies several things that it can't really prove.
 
ponyo

ponyo

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DrMrLordX said:
So are hospitals getting $39k extra from Medicare for every reported Covid-19 death? Does anybody know? I'm not taking just one person's word on it from a video that got banned on YouTube.
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According Elon Musk, yes. Every Covid death is $8k. Extra $39k if they're put on ventilator for even 1 minute before they die.

 
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nakedfrog

nakedfrog

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Red Squirrel said:
One thing about this video is the fact that they are trying so hard to censor it. So obviously there is some truth to it and they don't want it out there. Could be it's exaggerated or some points aren't true though, don't know.

There's all sorts of crazy conspiracy stuff like flat earth theory, chemtrails, 9/11 was an inside job etc out there... but as far as I know none of that is really censored. Even stuff that is true is not really censored that much, but it seems anything to do with covid-19 is under serious scrutiny and censorship across the board. Makes you wonder.
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Clearly that's the only logical reason :rolleyes:
 
K1052

K1052

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DrMrLordX said:
So are hospitals getting $39k extra from Medicare for every reported Covid-19 death? Does anybody know? I'm not taking just one person's word on it from a video that got banned on YouTube.
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It stemmed from a rather benign comment about the rate Medicare pays to put someone on a vent that got wildly distorted into a conspiracy theory about hospitals rampantly upcoding patients to make money on their treatments and even deaths. The guy from the interview said that he did not at all intend to infer that was happening.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
 
DrMrLordX

DrMrLordX

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K1052 said:
It stemmed from a rather benign comment about the rate Medicare pays to put someone on a vent that got wildly distorted into a conspiracy theory about hospitals rampantly upcoding patients to make money on their treatments and even deaths. The guy from the interview said that he did not at all intend to infer that was happening.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
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According to factcheck, there's no clear evidence one way or the other that the Medicare payment system is (or isn't) encouraging people to falsely report people as a Covid-19 death. It is rational to conclude that if hospitals aren't taking advantage of any source of money they can get right now that they are completely screwed due to funding shortfalls elsewhere. Nobody's making an actual profit this way, if it's even happening.

Comments like Jensen's certainly presented grounds for speculation, and it's kinda funny how he tried to walk it back. It's his own fault that people chose to interpret the comments the way they did.
 
K1052

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Y hello thar

https://twitter.com/x/status/1258887150906589185

Findings
Between Feb 10 and March 20, 2020, 127 patients were recruited; 86 were randomly assigned to the combination group and 41 were assigned to the control group. The median number of days from symptom onset to start of study treatment was 5 days (IQR 3–7). The combination group had a significantly shorter median time from start of study treatment to negative nasopharyngeal swab (7 days [IQR 5–11]) than the control group (12 days [8–15]; hazard ratio 4·37 [95% CI 1·86–10·24], p=0·0010). Adverse events included self-limited nausea and diarrhoea with no difference between the two groups. One patient in the control group discontinued lopinavir–ritonavir because of biochemical hepatitis. No patients died during the study.
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ultimatebob

ultimatebob

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The reopening guidelines for barbershops and restaurants in Connecticut on May 20th are amusing. We're apparently supposed to be wearing masks at all times possible... how am I supposed to wear a mask while I'm eating or getting my hair cut? This shit is bananas.
 
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s0me0nesmind1

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ultimatebob said:
The reopening guidelines for barbershops and restaurants in Connecticut on May 20th are amusing. We're apparently supposed to be wearing masks at all times possible... how am I supposed to wear a mask while I'm eating or getting my hair cut? This shit is bananas.
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It really is just childish dumb shit.

There aren't general laws you can slap on everyday things in life.



But it's overall actually quite simple:

Avoid touching shit you don't have to.... Such as other people's hands...

Keep a general safe distance others. If you don't have to be close then don't.

Wash hands / use hand sanitizer often

Refrain from touching your face. If you must, thoroughly wash hands first.





But for some reason people have to be full blown retard.
 
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Wreckem

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Plandemic is a straight up misinformation campaign that has already been thoroughly discredited. Why people keep posting it is beyond me.

It’s being removed because apparently a lot of idiots are buying into which is incredibly dangerous from a public health perspective.
 
Red Squirrel

Red Squirrel

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ultimatebob said:
The reopening guidelines for barbershops and restaurants in Connecticut on May 20th are amusing. We're apparently supposed to be wearing masks at all times possible... how am I supposed to wear a mask while I'm eating or getting my hair cut? This shit is bananas.
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Lol just picturing everyone at their table with mask on and they go to eat. "oh" "Pack it up, we need to take it to go".

I think what would be more practical is to open these places but with limited amount of people at a time. Take a restaurant with 10 tables, well only allow 5 tables to be filled. Or barber shop with 10 chairs only allow 5 etc. And everything is appointment/book only so nobody just waiting in the waiting room. Can alternate tables/chairs while others get sanitized. Basically open everything at like half capacity.
 
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s0me0nesmind1

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Red Squirrel said:
Lol just picturing everyone at their table with mask on and they go to eat. "oh" "Pack it up, we need to take it to go".

I think what would be more practical is to open these places but with limited amount of people at a time. Take a restaurant with 10 tables, well only allow 5 tables to be filled. Or barber shop with 10 chairs only allow 5 etc. And everything is appointment/book only so nobody just waiting in the waiting room. Can alternate tables/chairs while others get sanitized. Basically open everything at like half capacity.
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That's what our state is doing right now, I think restaurants can open but with 25% capacity right now.

Place I went to pickup food at simply had 3/4 tables taped off to help spread out the 25%.
 
ultimatebob

ultimatebob

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Red Squirrel said:
Lol just picturing everyone at their table with mask on and they go to eat. "oh" "Pack it up, we need to take it to go".

I think what would be more practical is to open these places but with limited amount of people at a time. Take a restaurant with 10 tables, well only allow 5 tables to be filled. Or barber shop with 10 chairs only allow 5 etc. And everything is appointment/book only so nobody just waiting in the waiting room. Can alternate tables/chairs while others get sanitized. Basically open everything at like half capacity.
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Yeah, they're requiring 50% seating capacity as well. Restaurants are also only allowed to open up outdoors as well initially. I give this about 3 weeks... these rules will likely piss enough customers to the point where they just go back to getting takeout.
 
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Wreckem

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ultimatebob said:
Yeah, they're requiring 50% seating capacity as well. Restaurants are also only allowed to open up outdoors as well initially. I give this about 3 weeks... these rules will likely piss enough customers to the point where they just go back to getting takeout.
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Mark Cuban hired a company to secret shop over 300 locations in Dallas. 96% of them weren’t following all mandatory guidelines by the state of Texas.

Cellphone geolocation data shows that the majority of Americans pretty much ditched the lock down directives in Mid April. It’s no surprise that businesses aren’t following guidelines.
 
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Mai72

Mai72

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mopardude87 said:
About the others who have bad habits oh your right, i have been working on controlling my diet quite a bit . I went from beer and soda non stop to nothing but water and green tea. I have lost prob about 35 pounds in over 2 months. Yeah this thing also has triggered my anxiety quite often and its caused a condition known as hypomania. I went a week without sleep, 4 days without food back in late Feb before i discovered the power of indica and its potency. Helps with back pain, sleep,anxiety/hypomania so its a pure thing and in scope of the universe i find it universally accepting. Its the cure all, the most powerful herb known on the planet and i am a herbalist at heart. Most could dump prob half their medication for this herb and be better off.

May sound silly but various events has honestly had me changing my faith as well for the better good of myself. Lets say its been the best decision i ever made in my life. Without this faith and the indica of course my anxiety would prob be the death of me. I was constantly never eating and never sleeping prior to the convert and indica. Some things can't be helped like bad eating for some and i get it, everyone has their own cooping mechanisms and my new found faith and devotion has been mine. If people laugh at the idea, accept it with open arms or criticize me i don't care. Seeing is believing.

For me it took one of the worlds biggest tragedies to find spirituality. Every night i pray to my deities and to the universe for bringing me to this path. Before this i honestly was so lost, i have found myself more or less and maybe others will too during this trying time. If that is a new diet, faith or new habits or ending old habits will be choices people need to make but ones i can only suggest. Your body is a temple and you only get one, so treat it well!
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Good for you. When we are young we tend to take our health for granted. And, we can because our DNA can handle that bad behavior. In my 20s I could go out until 4am, come home, get 2 hrs of sleep and go straight into work. There is no way in hell I could manage that today. I've noticed that my body aches and my back kills me if I sit down for too long. Prolonged sitting has been shown to be just as bad as smoking BTW. I just watched a video with Fran Drescher who had battled cancer and she put it so well. It will be on one average Tuesday or Wednesday that your life will forever change. It's so true. You'll be getting ready for work, or whatever... And something will happen that will send you to the hospital. You'll find out you have cancer, of an illness that will change your life forever. That is what happened to my mother. She wasn't feeling well and was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease that took her life 6 years later. Before that she was perfectly healthy. Seems like the 50s are when this stuff happens. Must be from decades of bad habits. Eventually, it catches up with you.

If you look at COVID-19 it's kinda the same thing. Many of the people who are subcumming to this virus have underlining issues. High blood pressure. Type2, heart failure, etc. Most of it is from eating poorly. Not taking adequate care of your body. Not exercising. Going to bed extremely late and not getting 7-8 hours of quality sleep. Drinking a lot of water. Keeping processed foods to a minimum. It's hard to do.
 
K1052

K1052

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Kaido said:
This is gonna end well:

www.cnn.com

Sioux tribe rejects South Dakota governor request to remove Covid-19 checkpoints

The Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe has rejected an ultimatum by South Dakota's governor to remove checkpoints on state highways within tribal reservations or risk legal action.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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From a purely historical point of view I’m hard pressed to fault native Americans from protecting themselves when the government has so often failed to do so or even actively sought to cause them harm.
 
DrMrLordX

DrMrLordX

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Kaido said:
This is gonna end well:
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Interesting question of jurisdictions. If the checkpoints are on tribal land, I don't think she can enforce an order unless there's a sub-treaty regarding road use between the tribe and the state.
 
ultimatebob

ultimatebob

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K1052 said:
From a purely historical point of view I’m hard pressed to fault native Americans from protecting themselves when the government has so often failed to do so or even actively sought to cause them harm.
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Compare that to the Connecticut tribes, who are planning on opening their casinos starting next week before a lot of other things because they need the money :)
 
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