NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

ponyo

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This is supposed to be like SARS. I don't want to be near airports, casinos, boat cruises, or Asia. This is really making me reconsider my vacation travel plans for this year. Anyone else worried this is way more serious than what the China government publicly announced or am I being too paranoid?

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sdifox

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This is supposed to be like SARS. I don't want to be near airports, casinos, boat cruises, or Asia. This is really making me reconsider my vacation travel plans for this year. Anyone else worried this is way more serious than what the China government publicly announced or am I being too paranoid?
It is guaranteed to be more serious than PRC is saying. And with the Chinese New Year, it is about to get worse.
 
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zinfamous

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This is supposed to be like SARS. I don't want to be near airports, casinos, boat cruises, or Asia. This is really making me reconsider my vacation travel plans for this year. Anyone else worried this is way more serious than what the China government publicly announced or am I being too paranoid?
this made me chuckle. :D
 
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@zinfamous can you explain this for me. I believe it relates to your job.

I saw a discovery TV show a long time ago, I forgot most of the show but I remember one part about most viruses originate in China because chickens & pigs live in close proximity to each other.
*I think* it went, chickens feed where cows poop, they get sick from some cow virus that mutates in the chicken, chickens then poop near the pigs which mutates the virus more, chickens eat near pig poop and now the virus has mutated enough to be contagious to humans.
Something about each step made infecting the next animal possible. Sort of remember hearing if China just farmed like nearly anywhere else in the world and kept chickens separated from pigs we would have far fewer viruses.
I think the mutating in a pig made it possible to reinfect birds and also made it possible to infect humans after the birds.

Sorry for being so vague and my order is likely messed up.
 

brianmanahan

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shoot, i'm glad i haven't planned any vacation yet this year

think i will just stay home

the world is a terrifying place, as time goes on i'm more afriad to step outside every day
 

Scarpozzi

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shoot, i'm glad i haven't planned any vacation yet this year

think i will just stay home

the world is a terrifying place, as time goes on i'm more afriad to step outside every day
Bah...you can go other places. Just don't breathe air.
 
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shoot, i'm glad i haven't planned any vacation yet this year

think i will just stay home

the world is a terrifying place, as time goes on i'm more afriad to step outside every day
Christ, coming from the person that says they are gonna fall over and die in the next 10 years and makes a thread on it.

At this point, fuck it - go out in blaze of glory...
 
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So basically, everyone here should do their homework and play the board game Pandemic to figure out how to resolve this issue.
 

Red Squirrel

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The idea of being able to travel around the world so quickly these days is incredible... but also scary in these type of situations. there should definitely be some kind of restriction on traveling to/from China (or any place that gets an outbreak) in order to contain it. When the Ebola outbreak was happening you still had people going into these countries that had it. That has to stop. When there is an outbreak it really needs to be contained and cured before letting people in and out of the country willy nilly.
 

Oric

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If it is deadly only for suppressed or weak immune system people, big deal but not end of the world. If it is deadly for active and strong immune systems like the 1918 H1N1 (Spanish Flu) then quarantine yourselves at home.

AFAIK it is the first, not a big deal
 

WelshBloke

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Sorry for the long quote. Short of it is China says "No worries!", everyone else says "Nuh huh, we'll worry thanks".

An unexplained pneumonia in China caused the Korean quarantine authorities to strengthen the quarantine, and a fever-sensing camera is installed to monitor the body temperature of Chinese tourists who entered Korea at Incheon Port 1 International Passenger Terminal.

Pneumonia confirmed by the new coronavirus, which is prevalent in Wuhan, China, was confirmed for the first time on [20 Jan 2020]. According to health officials, a Chinese woman, A, who arrived at Incheon International Airport on a plane from Wuhan last weekend, was confirmed with pneumonia. The patient showed signs of pneumonia, including high fever and cough. The health authorities entered the airport at the same time, confirmed the symptoms of high fever, suspected pneumonia, and went into quarantine and testing. The Centers for Disease Control immediately quarantined A and entered treatment with a nationally designated quarantine bed. The Centers for Disease Control will hold an emergency press conference at 1:30 pm on [20 Jan 2020] and release the reporter A.

Meanwhile, Beijing's Daxing District Health and Welfare Committee said 2 fever patients who had been to Wuhan were confirmed as a new pneumonia patient on [19 Jan 2020]. They are currently being treated at a designated hospital and said they are stable. Daxing District is where Beijing New Airport opened last year [2019]. The Guangdong Provincial Health and Welfare Committee said on [19 Jan 2020] that a 66-year-old man who had visited a relative's home in Wuhan showed fever and lethargy and was diagnosed with Wuhan pneumonia. Confirmation patients have also emerged in Shenzhen, a neighboring Hong Kong province in southern China, raising concerns that the new pneumonia has already spread throughout China.

The Chinese government has said that "there is no basis for human-to-human propagation," but domestic experts pointed out that "the nature of coronavirus is less likely to prevent human-to-human propagation."
 

Scarpozzi

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NBC's John Torres said that this virus requires close contact to be transferred...cough dropplets on surfaces or direct contact.

That's good news because quarantining then has a shot...
 

rcpratt

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Of course this would happen after we plan a SE Asia trip (including Beijing) for April. Hopefully it clears up...
 

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