Dukakis was up by a lot at this point in the election and he lost to Bush. We must act as if Joe is down in the polls every day and then get out the vote like it.
Dukakis was up by a lot at this point in the election and he lost to Bush. We must act as if Joe is down in the polls every day and then get out the vote like it.
It's more than a little funny to visit forums dominated by Trumpists (I don't dare post, just watch) these days. The people who were shouting "Clinton lost, get over it" and dreaming of a Trump dictatorship are now predicting the end of society if Biden wins, because... well, apparently irony and self-awareness are lost on them.
Ahh Willy Horton and Death Penalty if his wife gets raped and murdered?
Latest Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Biden's lead only 8 points, with 16 percent undecided. link
Those supporting (planning to vote for him) are only 46%.
Turd red right-wing or douche blue right-wing. Voting Democrat twice got America DJT, any normalcy candidate can get us someone worse than DJT. Have hope with Joe Biden till 2024 rolls by "I AM BETTER THAN JOE BIDEN/TOKEN BF VP VOTE ME, DRAIN SWAMP I PROMISE" - anti-incumbant candidateJust what we need a significant percentage of the population refusing to make a choice or wasting their vote on a “third (turd) party” candidate. WTF?
Conversations I've seen there are open rebellion with the expectation that the military will support them in violently overtuning the election, if Trump loses.It's more than a little funny to visit forums dominated by Trumpists (I don't dare post, just watch) these days. The people who were shouting "Clinton lost, get over it" and dreaming of a Trump dictatorship are now predicting the end of society if Biden wins, because... well, apparently irony and self-awareness are lost on them.
Something I have noticed with great consistency among Trump supporters these last 4 years is a total lack of self-awareness.It's more than a little funny to visit forums dominated by Trumpists (I don't dare post, just watch) these days. The people who were shouting "Clinton lost, get over it" and dreaming of a Trump dictatorship are now predicting the end of society if Biden wins, because... well, apparently irony and self-awareness are lost on them.
You know someone is desperate when they link a poll and say someone leading by eight points is a bad thing. Eight points would be an epic annihilation.Latest Reuters/Ipsos poll shows Biden's lead only 8 points, with 16 percent undecided. link
Those supporting (planning to vote for him) are only 46%.
They don’t need to take it into account because it doesn’t exist to any meaningful extent. National polls in 2016 and 2018 very accurately predicted Trump support so unless the idea is they weren’t ashamed in 2016 or 2018 but are now the polls are fine.Can polls take into account the closet Trump voters, the ones who are too scared/embarrassed to say in public that they will be voting for him?
You know someone is desperate when they link a poll and say someone leading by eight points is a bad thing. Eight points would be an epic annihilation.
Where did the polling go wrong in 2016 then (which put Hilary ahead)?They don’t need to take it into account because it doesn’t exist to any meaningful extent. National polls in 2016 and 2018 very accurately predicted Trump support so unless the idea is they weren’t ashamed in 2016 or 2018 but are now the polls are fine.
I know it makes sense to think that Trump’s voters would be ashamed to admit they support him but...they aren’t.
The polling wasn’t particularly wrong in 2016, it got his support within 1 point.Where did the polling go wrong in 2016 then (which put Hilary ahead)?
I think his 30-35% base are not ashamed to admit it, but there are people who will vote republican no matter what, but maybe they don't support Trump (in the end though they will vote Republican) so they are "undecided" maybe in polls?
Way to put words in my mouth. I in no way said it was a "bad thing". I simply presented the data.You know someone is desperate when they link a poll and say someone leading by eight points is a bad thing. Eight points would be an epic annihilation.
Of course you did, that’s why you said ‘only 8%’. Don’t play these silly ‘who, me?’ games.Way to put words in my mouth. I in no way said it was a "bad thing". I simply presented the data.
But now that you mention it, it *is* a trend downward from the double digits people have been throwing around in this thread.
I feel that America's prospects of redemption are basically double their effectiveness in trouncing the R-pub tickets in November. The more resounding the message, the better our prospects... in spades, no trumps allowed, or trump hangers-on.Cook just moved 5 senate races towards the Democrats.