Originally posted by: FatJackSprat
Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: FatJackSprat
Originally posted by: Spudd
Originally posted by: FatJackSprat
Originally posted by: Spudd
LOL. You guys sure like red herring arguments. You keep avoiding my point, so I'll say it again: you can't hide the color of your skin, but you can hide other aspects of your life if you're white (being jewish, being gay, a catholic, etc.) And no, I've never seen a black slave in america before. lol
Earlier, you definitely stated that a name was the only thing necessary to reveal that someone is Jewish. It was then pointed out that Affirmative Racism programs are of such a nature that names are an absolute necessity. They can't send a job offer or an acceptance letter to someone they can't identify.
Yes, your point is understood, it is just irrelevant in the context of Affirmative Racism programs.
I never stated that was the "only thing necessary to reveal that someone is Jewish" although I'm sure that's what you'd like to believe. It was merely one example of how such a scenario would play out. And no, it is not irrelevant in terms of AA programs. Names on applications can also get people into trouble--have you forgotten the recent studies that showed that people with black sounding names were much less likely to be hired than equally qualified people with "white" sounding names?
By the way, stop putting things in people's mouth; it's a poor way to argue your point.
"I don't know you're a jew until you tell me your name."
Meaning: "When you tell me your name, I will know whether you are Jewish or not."
Correct?
Had you stated, "I don't know you're a jew until you tell me your name and your skin color" my logical conclusion regarding the amount of information you claim to need wouldn't be satisfied.
Thanks for the tip on arguing my points. If the situation should ever come up, I'll be sure to keep it in mind.
LOL.....poor guy.
You're really stretching what I said to make your point, and at the same time ignoring what I said. Let me give you a concrete example so you can understand: I knew this guy back in highschool who was Cuban-American, but you would swear he was a white kid from Oregon if you didn't know his name. He went to visit his uncle in South Carolina. He was talking to some local guys who were really friendly, hanging around and what not. One of them asked where he's from. He said he was born in Cuba but grew up in South Florida. They were shocked that he wasn't white, asked if he was a "ref" and how long ago did he come over on the "boat"-- their attitude towards him changed immediately. It was as if he was no longer good enough to be around them. When he came back down from S. Carolina, he told my friends and I about it, and we all got a good laugh out of it, especially since in South Florida, you don't get that kind of racism if you're Cuban. You see, he could have hidden a certain characteristic. Replace his situation with a dark skinned person, and you get a different outcome since you CAN NOT hide your skin color.
Words are words.
Don't accuse me of putting words into your mouth when you actually wrote them with you own wittle hands. Are you another person that writes words, but expects that everyone reading them will intuitively know the "real" meaning. When you write something that's all I have to go by.
*bored sigh* I understand your very simple and quite irrelevant point.
This thread is discussing Affirmative Racism, which is the practice of giving minorities preferential treatment based on race. Therefore, in order to suck out the benefits Affirmative Racism, one must apply to the programs practicing it. Applying to a program involves identifying yourself and does not allow one to hide heritage which can be discerned on the basis of a name (your claim, not mine), therefore a name can be just as important as the special boxes provided for the special people of our society.
"LOL.....poor guy."
Yeah, that's right.

Blacks can't get into schools without help.

Blacks can't get jobs without help.

Blacks can't get the same amount of pepperoni on their takeout pizza without help.