Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[igor_kavinski]

lol your post have been feeding so many of these sites I hope they are cutting you a cheque or some stock options

Nah. I'm no.9 which means that whatever I do, I remain poor while everyone else around me gets rich!

 

[biostud]

Thats what Im rocking...

How did you get it?

 

[Josh128]

FALSE ALARM!!! I read that wrong, lol. I have 5900X, not 5900XT. Sorry bro's. Nothing to see here.

 

[yottabit]

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X outperforms Core i9-14900KS by 12% with unlimited power settings - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X at 160W matches Core i9-14900KS at 253W Comparison from AnandTech leaker. Courtesy of PCGamesN/TechPowerUP There’s another leak featuring a non-official sample of the Ryzen 9 9950X. AMD has partially lifted the embargo on architectural details, but the company has yet to allow...

videocardz.com

O M G !!!

The lies! They never end!

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Oh, the unbearable agony of going through all the screenshots! I hope he didn't end up in hospital. Real journalism is so hard these days!

Pretty impressive it can hit 11.4 GHz at only 40 W...

 

[Josh128]

143Pts and my hard-on gone again.

Not impressed?

 

[Hemu2K]

I get 139 ST @ stock clocks on 14900KF. 143 at 5.7GHz sounds really good!

 

[Hemu2K]

Does your score change with ram speed?

I suppose it does a little? R23 does not sure about r24, my ram was at XMP 2 8000

 

[Josh128]

R15 through R23 doesnt scale with RAM speed at all. Its why the 9950X ES leaker ran his R23 at 4800MT/s. Actually helps the score a tiny bit by feeding less power to memory, thus having more to give to CPU.

I think R24 does a little bit, probably no more than 2% - 3%.

 

[gaav87]

Not impressed?

No. I anticipated max OC -30CO ST score not ~Stock
I guess il degrade that 9700X very fast trying 6Ghz like i degraded my 5600x 4years ago only took me 45days of running ~4.9ghz and 2100fclk 1.15vsoc for it to degrade. Then it needed 1.464V for 4.85G and could only do 2000fclk. Thank god 5800x3d released as by the end it could only do 4.65G and 2000fclk started giving whea's.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

R15 through R23 doesnt scale with RAM speed at all. Its why the 9950X ES leaker ran his R23 at 4800MT/s. Actually helps the score a tiny bit by feeding less power to memory, thus having more to give to CPU.

I think R24 does a little bit, probably no more than 2% - 3%.

While my ST only saw a 120->126 score going from jedec 4800 to fast tuned ram, MT sees a much larger gain. I'll run it real quick for reference.

4800 JEDEC - 1,950
6400 Tuned - 2,280 2,190

edit: wrong MT score from memory, 2,280 was probably with PBO+CO

 

[poke01]

@Josh128

Enjoy your prize from our excellent ES user!

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i was spot on. Nice work by AMD for an x86 CPU

Not impressed?

I mean Apple does up to 144 at 4.06GHz on the M3 series.

 

[Josh128]

^^ Interesting.

Igor what RAM config was used for the ES R24 run? I dont see it on the HWinfo screen.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

^^ Interesting.

Igor what RAM config was used for the ES R24 run? I dont see it on the HWinfo screen.

8000/2133, unsure about timings. My config is 6400CL30 tuned 2133 fclk

 

[poke01]

EDIT; out of topic

 

[PJVol]

While my ST only saw a 120->126 score going from jedec 4800 to fast tuned ram, MT sees a much larger gain. I'll run it real quick for reference.

I went over a couple of detailed reviews of Raphael CPUs where it was shown that the effective clocks in ST load like SuperPI for the two best cores reached 5700-5750 MHz at stock and 5850 MHz with +100 PBO boost and a tuned curve, with Fmax 5850 and 5950 respectively. Looks like something is really wrong with the setup where the ST clocks can't exceed 4650Mhz.

The rate at wich the score increase as he increase power, we ll know more once Computerbase do their review since they ll make tests at 45, 65, 88 and 142W like they did for the 7950X.

Yes, we'll know for sure, although I was asking why you assumed that the VRM voltage is held at a fixed value, while the telemetry indicated otherwise.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

I went over a couple of detailed reviews of Raphael CPUs where it was shown that the effective clocks in ST load like SuperPI for the top two cores reaches 5700-5750 MHz at stock and 5850 MHz with +100 pbo boost and a tuned curve, with Fmax 5850 and 5950 respectively. I think something is wrong with the setup where the ST clocks can't exceed 4650Mhz

It runs 5650 in CB 2024 ST. In other singlethreaded workloads, it can 5700 or 5750. FMAX/peak reported frequency when unloaded hits 5850.

 

[Goop_reformed]

Nah. I'm no.9 which means that whatever I do, I remain poor while everyone else around me gets rich!

So is it good yet? I've not recovered from the 32% hangover .

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

While my ST only saw a 120->126 score going from jedec 4800 to fast tuned ram, MT sees a much larger gain. I'll run it real quick for reference.

4800 JEDEC - 1,950
6400 Tuned - 2,280

I was off here. the tuned score was from memory. It's actually 2,190.

 

[igor_kavinski]

So is it good yet? I've not recovered from the 32% hangover .

It's the best Zen yet at 300W

 

[FlameTail]

AMD's tweaked RDNA 3.5 GPU is solely focused on improving mobile gaming performance

There are plenty of little changes under the hood to help the graphics processor do more for less power.

www.pcgamer.com

The updated design was introduced by Mark Papermaster, AMD's chief technology officer, and he began by pointing out that the changes culminated from its collaboration with Samsung, which licenses AMD's graphics tech for the Exynos range of smartphone and tablet processors.

That's very interesting (emphasis mine).

Cross pollination of technologies between smartphone and PC!

 

[csbin]

hardwareluxx: N4X
tomshardware: N4P

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814187640062685638

 

[poke01]

so Zen 5 CCD is N4X

 

[poke01]

If it’s N4X that’s even better, as it’s meant for extreme performance and no wonder AMD is able clock highly so easily.

One could say N4X is better than N3B for desktop.

 

[Rigg]

@igor_kavinski 's leaker career really hitting the big time now.

 

[therealmongo]

@igor_kavinski 's leaker career really hitting the big time now.

hahaha, men in black will be round soon
its been so long to look at that channel, used to be a young boy talking, now its an older, bigger man