Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Timorous]

hahaha, men in black will be round soon

He has not posted for a minute. Wonder if Lisa's goon squad has snatched him already.

 

[Rigg]

He has not posted for a minute. Wonder if Lisa's goon squad has snatched him already.

It's not safe for him now that he's been outed as one of MLID's super reliable sources.

 

[Rigg]

used to be a young boy talking, now its an older, bigger man

With great mustache comes great responsibility.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

If it’s N4X that’s even better, as it’s meant for extreme performance and no wonder AMD is able clock highly so easily.

One could say N4X is better than N3B for desktop.

Cheese said that both Mire Clark and Mahesh Subramony confirmed that Zen 5 uses N4P.

 

[igor_kavinski]

@igor_kavinski 's leaker career really hitting the big time now.

Wow. Mr. Moostache is talking about my graph!

 

[Philste]

MLIDs Video today is one of the best ones ever...

Makes totally sense for AMD to hide ZEN5s real performance from Intel when Intels product launches months after 3rd Party reviews of ZEN5 where real performance is shown anyway.

 

[StefanR5R]

hardwareluxx: N4X
tomshardware: N4P

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814187640062685638

Not exactly. Hardwareluxx (Andreas Schilling) wrote "N4P and N4X".

The new CCD is supposed to be [manufactured in] "TSMC 4nm FinFET" — at the tech day, N4P and N4X have been mentioned specifically.

PS:
The article from which this comes from is centered around questions which Hardwareluxx asked AMD after the Tech Day. Especially, they asked about manufacturing. The way how the article is worded, it is evident that AMD answered this with "TSMC 4nm FinFET", whereas the "N4P and N4X" bit is only something which Andreas Schilling claims to have heard at the event.
Edit 2:
Further down in the article, he associates N4X with Eldora and N4P with Strix Point but we have no way of knowing what's fact and what's mistake if not invention (by the listener or by the speaker).

 

[inf64]

MLID has lost the plot, officially.

 

[tsamolotoff]

MLIDs Video today is one of the best ones ever...

broQen siliQon, amirite

 

[yuri69]

The conspiracy is always so laughable. X doing this because they don't want the Y to know.

Standard x86 projects span 5+ years. There are hundreds employees changing places each year. There are entire teams focused on "projecting the market competition situation".

Slides having a different number a few months before the launch won't matter.

The only variable thing is pricing, the rest is known.

 

[Timmah!]

@igor_kavinski 's leaker career really hitting the big time now.

You will tell your grandchildren that you were there, 3000 years ago, and witnessed Igors ascension to interwebz fame first hand 😁

 

[Ghostsonplanets]

AMD's tweaked RDNA 3.5 GPU is solely focused on improving mobile gaming performance

There are plenty of little changes under the hood to help the graphics processor do more for less power.

www.pcgamer.com

That's very interesting (emphasis mine).

Cross pollination of technologies between smartphone and PC!

Huh, this is actually quite interesting

 

[gaav87]

8000/2133, unsure about timings. My config is 6400CL30 tuned 2133 fclk

Where did u get 8000 from ? Wasnt it 6000mts 2133fclk?
memory for the R24 result: 8000Mts/2133fclk uclk at 2000 2:1.
So its best possible ST result.

 

[CakeMonster]

Asus BIOS 2124 released, I just flashed and it passed all the quick stability tests with my custom settings. AGESA 1.2.0.0a and it has the new curve shaper setting as well.

 

[igor_kavinski]

it has the new curve shaper setting as well.

So curve shaper will work for Zen 4 as well? Did you tinker with it?

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

So curve shaper will work for Zen 4 as well? Did you tinker with it?

1.2.0.0a has been out for two weeks on my gigabyte boards already, but I reverted back to 1.1.7.0 due to that windows 10 boot-loop issue when I was trying to benchmark. Lemme flash back to 1.2.0.0a and look.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Nevermind. Curve shaper is not exposed on my X670E Aorus Xtreme on F31a (1.2.0.0a).

 

[Josh128]

Slow day. So now theres that "leak" of a "retailer" posting up 9600X $295 pricing. I have this feeling AMD is going to disappoint on launch pricing even though all the stars are aligned for them to make a real statement. If what we end up with is $299, $399, $549, and $649, thats going to be a huge disappointment, IMO.

 

[gaav87]

Slow day. So now theres that "leak" of a "retailer" posting up 9600X $295 pricing. I have this feeling AMD is going to disappoint on launch pricing even though all the stars are aligned for them to make a real statement. If what we end up with is $299, $399, $549, and $649, thats going to be a huge disappointment, IMO.

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

 

[Yahfz]

@igor_kavinski can the leaker follow the instructions for any of these benchmarks here and post the score?

CPU Benchmark Data

📢 FAQs <a href="https://discord.gg/ANeWttWcRg">https://discord.gg/ANeWttWcRg</a>, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS QUESTION ,WHAT IS THIS SPREADSHEET ABOUT? ANSWER ,The purpose of this spreadsheet is to have CPU gaming data one click away. Data that you can easily compare to your own system to see...

docs.google.com

 

[Kryohi]

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

Sure, but you have to compare it with current Ryzen 7000 prices. I have no doubt many will do that and be disappointed when considering the (apparently) rather small performance increase.

 

[Josh128]

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

Because I can buy a 7950X3D for only $459 brand new right now at Amazon is why. Way too big of a pricing gap for the +16% ST/MT and -5% gaming. Same goes for 7700X / 7800X3D vs 9700X. With Arrow Lake looming, I dont think its wise.

 

[igor_kavinski]

@igor_kavinski can the leaker follow the instructions for any of these benchmarks here and post the score?

He's too busy for games.

 

[GTracing]

Prior generations are almost always a better value than a brand new release. For AMD CPUs at least.

 

[gaav87]

Because I can buy a 7950X3D for only $459 brand new right now at Amazon is why. Way too big of a pricing gap for the +16% ST/MT and -5% gaming. Same goes for 7700X / 7800X3D vs 9700X. With Arrow Lake looming, I dont think its wise.

Then wait 1-2 months for AMdiscount it always happens. Also we dont know the gaming performance yet.