Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[gaav87]

8000/2133, unsure about timings. My config is 6400CL30 tuned 2133 fclk

Where did u get 8000 from ? Wasnt it 6000mts 2133fclk?
memory for the R24 result: 8000Mts/2133fclk uclk at 2000 2:1.
So its best possible ST result.

 

[CakeMonster]

Asus BIOS 2124 released, I just flashed and it passed all the quick stability tests with my custom settings. AGESA 1.2.0.0a and it has the new curve shaper setting as well.

 

[igor_kavinski]

it has the new curve shaper setting as well.

So curve shaper will work for Zen 4 as well? Did you tinker with it?

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

So curve shaper will work for Zen 4 as well? Did you tinker with it?

1.2.0.0a has been out for two weeks on my gigabyte boards already, but I reverted back to 1.1.7.0 due to that windows 10 boot-loop issue when I was trying to benchmark. Lemme flash back to 1.2.0.0a and look.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Nevermind. Curve shaper is not exposed on my X670E Aorus Xtreme on F31a (1.2.0.0a).

 

[Josh128]

Slow day. So now theres that "leak" of a "retailer" posting up 9600X $295 pricing. I have this feeling AMD is going to disappoint on launch pricing even though all the stars are aligned for them to make a real statement. If what we end up with is $299, $399, $549, and $649, thats going to be a huge disappointment, IMO.

 

[gaav87]

Slow day. So now theres that "leak" of a "retailer" posting up 9600X $295 pricing. I have this feeling AMD is going to disappoint on launch pricing even though all the stars are aligned for them to make a real statement. If what we end up with is $299, $399, $549, and $649, thats going to be a huge disappointment, IMO.

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

 

[Yahfz]

@igor_kavinski can the leaker follow the instructions for any of these benchmarks here and post the score?

CPU Benchmark Data

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docs.google.com

 

[Kryohi]

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

Sure, but you have to compare it with current Ryzen 7000 prices. I have no doubt many will do that and be disappointed when considering the (apparently) rather small performance increase.

 

[Josh128]

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

Because I can buy a 7950X3D for only $459 brand new right now at Amazon is why. Way too big of a pricing gap for the +16% ST/MT and -5% gaming. Same goes for 7700X / 7800X3D vs 9700X. With Arrow Lake looming, I dont think its wise.

 

[igor_kavinski]

@igor_kavinski can the leaker follow the instructions for any of these benchmarks here and post the score?

He's too busy for games.

 

[GTracing]

Prior generations are almost always a better value than a brand new release. For AMD CPUs at least.

 

[gaav87]

Because I can buy a 7950X3D for only $459 brand new right now at Amazon is why. Way too big of a pricing gap for the +16% ST/MT and -5% gaming. Same goes for 7700X / 7800X3D vs 9700X. With Arrow Lake looming, I dont think its wise.

Then wait 1-2 months for AMdiscount it always happens. Also we dont know the gaming performance yet.

 

[Saylick]

Prior generations are almost always a better value than a brand new release. For AMD CPUs at least.

Pretty much this. You'll never see a new generation offering better perf/$ than the outgoing generation. If that were the case, old stock would never clear out.

 

[Rigg]

Sure, but you have to compare it with current Ryzen 7000 prices. I have no doubt many will do that and be disappointed when considering the (apparently) rather small performance increase.

Meh. They can wait for prices to drop just like they did with every other Ryzen gen. A repeat of last gens launch MSRP pricing with street prices coming down over time should be the expectation. I'd like to see lower launch prices, but I don't expect it.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Slow day. So now theres that "leak" of a "retailer" posting up 9600X $295 pricing. I have this feeling AMD is going to disappoint on launch pricing even though all the stars are aligned for them to make a real statement. If what we end up with is $299, $399, $549, and $649, thats going to be a huge disappointment, IMO.

9600X - $229
9700X - $299
9800X3D - $349-$379**
9900X - $399
9950X - $499
9950X3D - $599**
Source: My cousin who works at Best Buy

** my guesses where they will slot in

Edit: Clarified pricing info

 

[mostwanted002]

I trust these pricings. Frfr

 

[gaav87]

9600X - $229
9700X - $299
9800X3D - $349-$379**
9900X - $399
9950X - $499
9950X3D - $599**
Source: My cousin who works at Best Buy

** my guesses where they will slot in

Edit: Clarified pricing info

OMG im buying day1

 

[igor_kavinski]

Nothing to see. Move along.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Intel's got a hard road ahead in light of this.

 

[Josh128]

9600X - $229
9700X - $299
9800X3D - $349-$379**
9900X - $399
9950X - $499
9950X3D - $599**
Source: My cousin who works at Best Buy

** my guesses where they will slot in

Edit: Clarified pricing info

If only!

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

If only!

 

[Josh128]

Holy crap man! Thats what Im talking about!!

 

[Det0x]

Why ? It will be litteraly 50% faster then your 5950x that you paid the same amount. Calculate for inflation and its cheaper. This will last you another 4 years.

Everyone wants new hardware for "free" 🤣

 

[Glo.]

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