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Shenkoa

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Markfw900 sezz "Hey felix, I wasn't trying to get onto you, I was just giving you the cold hard facts. Everyone here is tired of your ranting... I mean the cpu is great and all but 99.9% of the people won't spend $1000 on a cpu, and when u constantly recommend P4's over the clearly faster AMD64's it p!sses people off..."

You say this crap even when he posts benchmarks, cold hard facts??? who the heck are you kidding? yourself? your opinion?, every one has an opinion and they arent based on facts they are only based on your experients. Because of this you can tell alot about a person by their opinion and I wont say what I can tell about you. You cant argue against benchmarks unless you have other benchmarks to compare.
 

clarkey01

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didnt the overclocked sempron beat the EE in some tests and what ? costs and 1/8 of the cost ?

its over at xbitlabs, im too tired to link you all.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: Shenkoa
Markfw900 sezz "Hey felix, I wasn't trying to get onto you, I was just giving you the cold hard facts. Everyone here is tired of your ranting... I mean the cpu is great and all but 99.9% of the people won't spend $1000 on a cpu, and when u constantly recommend P4's over the clearly faster AMD64's it p!sses people off..."

You say this crap even when he posts benchmarks, cold hard facts??? who the heck are you kidding? yourself? your opinion?, every one has an opinion and they arent based on facts they are only based on your experients. Because of this you can tell alot about a person by their opinion and I wont say what I can tell about you. You cant argue against benchmarks unless you have other benchmarks to compare.

You mean these :
Originally posted by: crazySOB297
FelixDeKat, I wanna solve something once and for all,
http://www20.tomshardware.com/...19/cpu-scaling-09.html
this is a benchmark of an FX-51 being overclocked v.s. the P4EE being overclocked, FX-51 bests the p4EE at every turn. Now I'm not ratting on your proccessor, I mean it is a great chip, but, given a choice the AMD is really a better performer at this point. The P4EE is a good chip, can't doubt that, but I would never pay $1000 for it, and like it has been said before, to each his own. Now the reason everyone bags on you and gets on to you all the time is the fact that you are constantly recommending the Intel chips to people, who would CLEARLY benefit more from an A64 than a P4.

??? Or were you talking to Felix who has no benchmarks ????

 

Markfw

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PsharkJF

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Felix, no wonder why you're a Bush supporter, your version of the truth is wrong.
Everyone told you to stfu
No, everyone told you to stfu in the Cel D/Sempron thread because you made the claim that a Cel D 2.8 > Athlon [anything]. You posted no benchmarks to prove any of your statements.

I posted benchmarks proving that a Sempron 3100+ outperformed a Cel D 2.8 [both available at $100]. You never acknowledged anything about those benchmarks, even as I provided a link to them and they are on this site.

I posted live benchmarks for all to see (screenshots).
So did I, but apparently, because they didn't fit into your bias, you ignored them. So why should anyone believe anything you post because you're not willing to admit that someone else just proved you wrong?

Who the heck wants an inopertron? Hmmm? Dual inopertrons at that!

Uh oh, I'm gonna do it again!

Oops.
Did I do that?
Hyuck!

Hey, guess what? If a system has 4 CPUs, the choice is pretty clear which architecture you use - Opteron.
If you use a dual-cpu system, hey, guess what, the Xeon and Opteron are pretty well-matched!
Now, Felix, let's use some logic, alright?
If two things, all being said, are equal, and you say bad things about one, logically, they also apply to the other.
Using this example, if Opterons are "bad" and are equal to a Xeon, then logically, you are stating that Xeons are "bad" as well. However, some part of me thinks that you're going to say "No, Xeons are better." Okay, then, keep posting baseless facts without proof, even though I have proven that they are equal.

I was going to compare pricing on the Opteron 250 and Nocona Xeon 3.6, but Newegg has neither one, odd.

I should get my troll hat.

All Ive said is that the Celeron is better value than the AMD solution, and I dont need no stinkin benchmarks to know that!

Put on your tinfoil hats, folks!
 

clarkey01

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"All Ive said is that the Celeron is better value than the AMD solution, and I dont need no stinkin benchmarks to know that! "


Yeah ..........LOL




all point your finger and laugh @ felix, if being rite means I am troll then so be it.

No offence felix.
 

smoothmove

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I have an FX-53 939 Pin. I am not overly impressed with it.

I am switching to a Intel 550- 3.4 and will OC it.

The gaming performance is good with the FX series, but for the $$$, I want to be awed and I just wasn't

I am an AMD supported and have alot of AMD stock, but unless you are only gaming, the Intel chip is where I am going. I know Intel doesn't have all of the worlds answers either, but all around I think they may work better.


The Extreme P4's are probably not the best answer either. They are over-over-over priced Xeons. If you really need the BEST of the Best. Wait till SLI comes out on a Dual Xeon 3.6-4.0 and OC the crap out of it.


I am not a trained professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express.

 

Markfw

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smoothmove, What video card do you have ? The benchmarks don;t lie, so what didn;t make you "awe" ?
 

FelixDeCat

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??? Or were you talking to Felix who has no benchmarks ????

I had two threads about my CPU which you R U I N E D with your childish, hateful and jealous comments. Everyone knows that.

And since you are guilty as sin and therefore not going to point them out, I will:

first thread

second thread



 

smoothmove

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
smoothmove, What video card do you have ? The benchmarks don;t lie, so what didn;t make you "awe" ?

First, EASY KILLER. This is not a FLAME, it is an owner's experience.

I have an BFG 6000 GT OC 256mb Ram. I have an Asus A8V with 1 gig HyperX PC 4000. I can't OC cause of the board.
My Futuremark 05 scores were poor. It should have screamed.

Tell you what. I will do a bench of whatever one you want me to try on my FX-53.

Tomorrow, I will do the same bench on the new P4 550.

I will post both of them, with a screen shot to prove it if you want.


I am not the enemy, so don't take this as a hate post.

Let me know which benckmark

you can email me privately if you want.
 

Markfw

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smoothmove. I was referring to benchmarks in the tomshardware.com and anandtech.com reviewing FX-53 compared to P4EE, where both were OC'ed, and also at stock. In every gaming benchmark, the FX-53 won. and I assume the 6000 GT is a 6800GT. And what game did you play/bench ? The 6800GT is not as good in Far Cry, but wins many others. And this is not a flame, I really don;t understand what you think is too slow. I got 3830 with my rig on 3dmock 05, so how bad were yours ? I think you may have a setup issue if your numbers are below 5k.
 

Budman

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

lying is a sin, did you know that?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

lying is a sin, did you know that?

You too trolled in my threads, which Im going to repost.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: smoothmove
Originally posted by: Markfw900
smoothmove, What video card do you have ? The benchmarks don;t lie, so what didn;t make you "awe" ?

First, EASY KILLER. This is not a FLAME, it is an owner's experience.

I have an BFG 6000 GT OC 256mb Ram. I have an Asus A8V with 1 gig HyperX PC 4000. I can't OC cause of the board.
My Futuremark 05 scores were poor. It should have screamed.

Tell you what. I will do a bench of whatever one you want me to try on my FX-53.

Tomorrow, I will do the same bench on the new P4 550.

I will post both of them, with a screen shot to prove it if you want.


I am not the enemy, so don't take this as a hate post.

Let me know which benckmark

you can email me privately if you want.

Well the FX-93 is made of wood so that probably explains your experience. There is a thread about it. Do a search for "revelation" in this catagory.

Sell your FX and go EE. Hyperthreading is the king baby!
 

Budman

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: PsharkJF
Felix, no wonder why you're a Bush supporter, your version of the truth is wrong.
Everyone told you to stfu
No, everyone told you to stfu in the Cel D/Sempron thread because you made the claim that a Cel D 2.8 > Athlon [anything]. You posted no benchmarks to prove any of your statements.

I posted benchmarks proving that a Sempron 3100+ outperformed a Cel D 2.8 [both available at $100]. You never acknowledged anything about those benchmarks, even as I provided a link to them and they are on this site.

I posted live benchmarks for all to see (screenshots).
So did I, but apparently, because they didn't fit into your bias, you ignored them. So why should anyone believe anything you post because you're not willing to admit that someone else just proved you wrong?

Who the heck wants an inopertron? Hmmm? Dual inopertrons at that!

Uh oh, I'm gonna do it again!

Oops.
Did I do that?
Hyuck!

Hey, guess what? If a system has 4 CPUs, the choice is pretty clear which architecture you use - Opteron.
If you use a dual-cpu system, hey, guess what, the Xeon and Opteron are pretty well-matched!
Now, Felix, let's use some logic, alright?
If two things, all being said, are equal, and you say bad things about one, logically, they also apply to the other.
Using this example, if Opterons are "bad" and are equal to a Xeon, then logically, you are stating that Xeons are "bad" as well. However, some part of me thinks that you're going to say "No, Xeons are better." Okay, then, keep posting baseless facts without proof, even though I have proven that they are equal.

I was going to compare pricing on the Opteron 250 and Nocona Xeon 3.6, but Newegg has neither one, odd.

I should get my troll hat.

All Ive said is that the Celeron is better value than the AMD solution, and I dont need no stinkin benchmarks to know that!

Put on your tinfoil hats, folks!


What are you smoking?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.

It is on you coward.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.

It is on you coward.

felix, no one likes you.
 

Budman

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.

It is on you coward.

No it isnt , Felix telling a lie.... how typical.:roll:
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.

It is on you coward.

felix, no one likes you.

mik3y we all know who you like. what did tasque say again? :heart:
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Being that I am the coolest guy in this forum and people envy my CPU, now they can envy my LCD as well. :beer:

Why dont you go in your User profile and then go to personal options & enable Allow Others to Rate You:.

Then we can let the people decide how cool they think you are. :roll:

I just voted you #1. :)

Turn yours on you coward.

It is on you coward.

No it isnt

you dont tell me what to do without saying the magic word. :lips: