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[pontifex]

My experience with garage ffl's. They're usually retired or doing it as a side business and unless have a lot of business are MUCH nicer than gun stores and will shoot the shit with you.

yep, if it's out of his house, probably just side business and he works a normal job just like you or me.

 

[onza]

Hitting up the range tomorrow. I'll post some target shots once I get back. Also - just purchased another 1k rounds for 230.xx (shipped) - 9mm flavor

 

[ManBearPig]

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[onza]

Watchya shootin?

My C&C gun - Walther PPS 9mm.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[RampantAndroid]

FML, ffl emailed me that he didn't get it today, but he didn't even know that it said it was delivered yesterday. So unless he has another address (his website has two for different reasons), I'm screwed.

It's likely insured. Have the person who mailed the gun contact the shipper and file the insurance claim.

Honestly, don't use these random FFLs. I trust the gun shops, not people in a house with in FFL.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[coxmaster]

Hitting up the range tomorrow. I'll post some target shots once I get back. Also - just purchased another 1k rounds for 230.xx (shipped) - 9mm flavor

Not a bad price, though it isn't that uncommon to find 9mm for right at $200 for 1k.

On the other side of the coin, I loaded up 500 rounds of 9mm last weekend for about $55. Probably going to shoot all of it this weekend

 

[ManBearPig]

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[coxmaster]

Everything's cool, t'was sent to his UPS address and they didn't notify him he had something there. Ill pick it up when he gets it (he's on his way). Poor dude apologized profusely.

Glad to hear it worked out.. That has been my experience with independent FFLs too.

All too often the big gun shops don't care at all about customer service, whereas the independent guys will usually do what they can to take care of you.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Glad to hear it worked out.. That has been my experience with independent FFLs too.

All too often the big gun shops don't care at all about customer service, whereas the independent guys will usually do what they can to take care of you.

Differs per gun shop, I think. In my area west coast guns is pretty good. I've gone through them twice, and both times they were staring at the gun I got with envy (a nice cheap brand new Model 29, and my 1903A3 in amazing shape), asking if they could handle it and such. They're a friendly bunch.

Glad it worked out Kazaam.

 

[shortylickens]

My C&C gun - Walther PPS 9mm.

Umm, carrying live ammo with the gun is highly not recommended. Especially for casual range shooting.

Keep ammo in the original box or in a special ammo box. Keep the gun separate and locked, even if its in your car. Even worse idea is a loaded magazine, thats asking for trouble.

The only time a gun and/or its magazines should be loaded is when all of them are under your direct control. Thats not the situation when its in a case, in your trunk, on the way to a range.
Ditto the night stand. If you arent in the house with it, take the magazine (and possibly chambered round) out and store them separately. When you go to bed for the night and you feel you need a loaded weapon, go ahead and put the magazine back in then. Thats also a good opportunity to look the gun over and see if anything is wrong with it, as opposed to leaving it in your night stand for years and not knowing how well it functions.


Oh, and obviously concealed or open carry also qualifies as under your direct control, not just standing at the shooting line.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[Farmer]

Umm, carrying live ammo with the gun is highly not recommended. Especially for casual range shooting.

Keep ammo in the original box or in a special ammo box. Keep the gun separate and locked, even if its in your car. Even worse idea is a loaded magazine, thats asking for trouble.

Some states have laws against transporting loaded weapons.

Having said that, aside from it being a law, I really don't see any safety issue with keeping a gun with loaded magazines inside a secured environment such as a locked box. I also do not see any safety issue with keeping a loaded magazine inside a gun, storing both inside secure location. I do understand why people do not want to transport with a round in the chamber.

All guns are loaded.

 

[irishScott]

Umm, carrying live ammo with the gun is highly not recommended. Especially for casual range shooting.

Keep ammo in the original box or in a special ammo box. Keep the gun separate and locked, even if its in your car. Even worse idea is a loaded magazine, thats asking for trouble.

The only time a gun and/or its magazines should be loaded is when all of them are under your direct control. Thats not the situation when its in a case, in your trunk, on the way to a range.
Ditto the night stand. If you arent in the house with it, take the magazine (and possibly chambered round) out and store them separately. When you go to bed for the night and you feel you need a loaded weapon, go ahead and put the magazine back in then. Thats also a good opportunity to look the gun over and see if anything is wrong with it, as opposed to leaving it in your night stand for years and not knowing how well it functions.


Oh, and obviously concealed or open carry also qualifies as under your direct control, not just standing at the shooting line.

Barring state regulations on transporting firearms, why? I can understand making sure the chamber's clear as a car crash could potentially set things off, but beyond that who cares? I know a guy who doesn't load mags at the range. He predominantly shoots 1911s, so he loads about 10 mags over the course of the week, brings them on the weekend and shoots them off. I don't think he transports them in the gun, but they're most certainly in the same range bag.

Like I said, if there are state/federal regulations in place then by all means follow them, but practically speaking there's nothing wrong or unsafe about transporting a loaded gun or a loaded mag, under direct control or not.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Umm, carrying live ammo with the gun is highly not recommended. Especially for casual range shooting.

Keep ammo in the original box or in a special ammo box. Keep the gun separate and locked, even if its in your car. Even worse idea is a loaded magazine, thats asking for trouble.

The only time a gun and/or its magazines should be loaded is when all of them are under your direct control. Thats not the situation when its in a case, in your trunk, on the way to a range.
Ditto the night stand. If you arent in the house with it, take the magazine (and possibly chambered round) out and store them separately. When you go to bed for the night and you feel you need a loaded weapon, go ahead and put the magazine back in then. Thats also a good opportunity to look the gun over and see if anything is wrong with it, as opposed to leaving it in your night stand for years and not knowing how well it functions.


Oh, and obviously concealed or open carry also qualifies as under your direct control, not just standing at the shooting line.

Safety issue? What? The magazines are not in the gun. The gun doesn't look to be chambered. I fail to see any safety issues, and regularly carry my guns with loaded magazines in the same bag, just not in the gun. There's no safety issues around that. If someone breaks into my car while it's locked up and has firearms, they're going to get into my ammo collection too, no matter what. Doesn't matter if I am using empty mags.

Some states have laws against transporting loaded weapons.

WA has laws against it, unless you are going directly to a shooting range, or have a CPL. In all cases, a loaded firearm is allowed but should be not accessible by the driver. But that's only for handguns. Rifles (of which shotguns are included) and AOWs must remain unloaded at all times in the car.

Oddly, in WA your car is an extension of your home - if someone tries to invade your car while you're present, lethal force is allowed. But strangely unlike your home, no loaded rifles or AOWs.

 

[Farmer]

In the meantime I think I'll get a striker fired pistol sometime in the next few months. Either a Gen 3 Glock 17 or a Walther PPQ methinks.

 

[shortylickens]

In the meantime I think I'll get a striker fired pistol sometime in the next few months. Either a Gen 3 Glock 17 or a Walther PPQ methinks.

The newer gen 4's are just fine in case you were wondering. The issues were isolated and also fixed a long time ago.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Some states have laws against transporting loaded weapons.

Having said that, aside from it being a law, I really don't see any safety issue with keeping a gun with loaded magazines inside a secured environment such as a locked box. I also do not see any safety issue with keeping a loaded magazine inside a gun, storing both inside secure location. I do understand why people do not want to transport with a round in the chamber.

All guns are loaded.

With series 70 1911s, drop it and the free floating firing pin can hit the round and the gun fires. Even with the gun on safe. Same for a Garand, M14, SKS and any other guns with free floating firing pins. I don't chamber my guns unless it's a defense gun. I really don't chamber my Garand or my M14 unless I'm about to fire, I don't want to see what a slam fire is like.

 

[x-alki]

LOL. Hey, if you want to drive down here and watch my back, I certainly won't decline. :sneaky:

I should be fine though. Dude has a sweet website, is a preferred ffl for buds and I think cheaper than dirt, and has been vetted by INGO.

Then youre safe. 🙂

 

[x-alki]

Gonna pick it up at 6! Can't believe I actually bought something... 😱 :awe:

😎

Pics? Hurry man, Hurry!!

 

[Merad]

Gonna pick it up at 6! Can't believe I actually bought something... 😱 :awe:

picspicspics

 

[Smoblikat]

Just got my first gun guys. Its my grandfathers first gun, his OLD OLD .22. Thing is the mos accurate gun I have ever seen.

 

[onza]

Thanks for your .000002cents.

I follow all state rules / laws. I take safety very seriously. So you are telling me you never break in your mags? How else would you break in a mag without loading it?

The clip is not in the gun, there is no ammo in the gun. It was for "PICTURE" purposes.

Umm, carrying live ammo with the gun is highly not recommended. Especially for casual range shooting.

Keep ammo in the original box or in a special ammo box. Keep the gun separate and locked, even if its in your car. Even worse idea is a loaded magazine, thats asking for trouble.

The only time a gun and/or its magazines should be loaded is when all of them are under your direct control. Thats not the situation when its in a case, in your trunk, on the way to a range.
Ditto the night stand. If you arent in the house with it, take the magazine (and possibly chambered round) out and store them separately. When you go to bed for the night and you feel you need a loaded weapon, go ahead and put the magazine back in then. Thats also a good opportunity to look the gun over and see if anything is wrong with it, as opposed to leaving it in your night stand for years and not knowing how well it functions.


Oh, and obviously concealed or open carry also qualifies as under your direct control, not just standing at the shooting line.

 

[ManBearPig]

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