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RampantAndroid

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no, these guns are sopping wet with oil/grease/or whatever they coat them in. My P-01 had a ton of the stuff on it, all over - inside and out. It needs to be wiped off and then re-oiled properly.

Yup - but this is my point, don't wipe the thing bone dry then cycle it manually and everything for a while. Leave the grease on the contact points until you have new oil to put on it.

For a centerfire weapon, it just gives something soft for the firing pin to hit (i.e., if it were a live round, the firing pin would hit the primer). It's actually not critical at all for centerfire weapons.

It's generally regarded as essential for dry firing rimfire weapons: if there is no snap cap, the firing pin would slam into the (steel) breech face, or perhaps the side of the chamber, each time it is dry fired, potentially damaging the firing pin.

That's also not the case for all rimfires. I have a CZ 453, which is a 22LR bolt action. According to CZ, it's ok to dry fire without snap cap.

Yes - for example, dry firing a garand can warp the firing pin. In general, I advise owning snap caps for every caliber of gun you own. Just good practice to be in, IMO.
 

Farmer

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Yes - for example, dry firing a garand can warp the firing pin. In general, I advise owning snap caps for every caliber of gun you own. Just good practice to be in, IMO.

Too bad no one makes 5.45x39 snap caps, but then again, I doubt dry firing an AK hurts it. :)
 

Farmer

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Also, if there is no ammo left, and I cock back the gun, is the only way to get the slide to go forward to release the slide stop? Doesnt seem to go back any other way.

Is it bad to just flick down the slide stop? Is it bad to let off the slide stop and slowly let the slide go forward?

If the empty magazine is still in the gun, yes. The magazine follower will keep the slide catch in the "up" position unless you push it down.

If you take out the empty mag or replace it with a loaded one, you can also rack the slide back and let it go.

I wouldn't "slowly let the slide forward": The round could misfeed or not seat properly in the chamber, the slide could also not go into battery. Its just asking for a malfunction.
 
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shortylickens

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no, these guns are sopping wet with oil/grease/or whatever they coat them in. My P-01 had a ton of the stuff on it, all over - inside and out. It needs to be wiped off and then re-oiled properly.

Yeah most guns come with a protective coating from the factory, but you dont shoot it like that. It will quickly collect dust and powder and really grind up your weapon.

Dry it off and then lubricate according to the manual. Also for common weapons theres usually plenty of vids online.

When I got my glock 17, it came used, no case, no manual.

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...281.1211.5j2j3.10.0...0.0...1ac.1.HXWdkEZYJi0

Thanks to youtube I got all the info I needed. Runs great.
 

boomhower

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Damnit I can't wait to shoot this sucker. I'm just gonna dry fire all day lol.

Done correctly dry firing will improve your actual shooting skills without spending a nickel on ammo. While dry firing focus on your front sight. Focus on breaking the trigger without the front sight moving. I missed what gun you got but if it's a da/sa or striker fired hold the trigger back and cycle the slide to get it to stay in sa mode. Rinse and repeat until perfected.
 

coxmaster

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Done correctly dry firing will improve your actual shooting skills without spending a nickel on ammo. While dry firing focus on your front sight. Focus on breaking the trigger without the front sight moving. I missed what gun you got but if it's a da/sa or striker fired hold the trigger back and cycle the slide to get it to stay in sa mode. Rinse and repeat until perfected.

It is absolutely beneficial to dry fire. Try putting a penny/dime on the top of the slide right by the front sight. If you can dry fire without it falling off, things are going well
 

pontifex

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Sometimes the firing pin can also damage the breach face around the chamber.

Oh, and always load from the magazine. Don't place manually place a round into the chamber from the ejection port and bring the slide home. It is usually considered bad for the extractor.

EDIT: I always thought the factory grips on CZ's are so ugly. The G10 or aluminum grips make them look so much better.

yeah, the cz grips aren't pretty but they are super comfortable.
 

IGemini

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About the guide rod...take it to the range first, see if you like the balance.

A while ago I rented a SIG P239 .40. The thing was really front-heavy and almost literally felt like a brick. Initially SIG shipped them out with stainless guide rods and I'm pretty sure this was one of those, or at least an aftermarket job. I'm comfortable with solid heavyweights like the P226 or 1911s, but this was the most uncomfortable 100 rounds I ever fired. I think I ended up shooting out the guidewire for the target post.

Maybe it's just how the frame handled the weight and the CZ 75 may have better distribution, or a lighter stainless design. But it something to consider when talking about aftermarket stuff.
 

pontifex

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Do you know if there are any other grips that feel the same but look different/have different materials?

I really love the swells on these rubber grips. And the rubber isn't sticky and doesnt collect lint. Its not plain rubber...it's a great feeling material.

i've only used the factory grips.
 

velillen

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Got it, thanks. Are you guys ok with flicking down the slide stop or is that not considered good form?

I do if there's a new magazine I just loaded. Well sometimes I do at least. Being left handed sometimes its just easier and simplier to hold the slide than use the slide release. If its empty I control the slide and go slower. But that's partly cause I'm doubling checking it unloaded yer again lol
 

irishScott

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Got it, thanks. Are you guys ok with flicking down the slide stop or is that not considered good form?

I typically don't, as it can wear down the slide-stop over time and racking/slingshoting the slide is transferable to essentially every other handgun out there.
 

BladeVenom

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I typically don't, as it can wear down the slide-stop over time and racking/slingshoting the slide is transferable to essentially every other handgun out there.

I pull back the slide instead of using the slide stop lever, because I think it's a little more reliable for feeding in a round.
 

Pia

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I pull back the slide with a palm grip because it's the most gross-motor movement available to carry out the job and therefore most reliable. Also because that way I'm doing approximately the same thing whether loading the gun or clearing a malfunction, and simultaneously building muscle memory for both. Using the slide stop would be slightly faster but I figure that's of consequence only to a serious competition shooter.
 

Farmer

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Try putting a penny/dime on the top of the slide right by the front sight. If you can dry fire without it falling off, things are going well

Nice tip. I just tried it on my CZ75. Even on the DA trigger, I think it's a bit too easy with the CZ (at least it is with both hands). You can even do it with a quarter resting on the front sight itself.
 

irishScott

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I think I might change out some springs on this sucker. Really enjoying it. Everyone who I have let hold it loves the feel too.

Why? No reason to change springs unless your current one's causing a malfunction. At least shoot it before you start changing everything around. when you buy a new car do you immediately "upgrade" the brake pads?