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Because you think "planned home invasions"/"semi-organized crime targeting break-ins" with people wearing body armor are even more dangerous than the cops or ICE.@nakedfrog I don't see how this is funny either.
No I said the opposite. Maybe you misunderstood. Law enforcement would be much more dangerous obviously. Anyway neither are what you want to be fair.Because you think "planned home invasions"/"semi-organized crime targeting break-ins" with people wearing body armor are even more dangerous than the cops or ICE.
Damn, same model many were using in the 80s. Legendary.Ruger mark IV
Californian here, I'm sure it's been discussed but not going to dig through 500+ pages:
Any recommendations for a good SHTF rifle? I figure just about any Cali legal AR-15 chambered for 5.56 with a pic rail aught to do it.
Snag a pistol grip mod to get rid of that absurd Cali legal handle as well as some standard magazines and I should be good to go (no modding unless I leave the state or SHTF in which case having non-compliant mods installed would be the least of my concerns).
Most shotguns designed for a 12ga load will hold 8rd or so, you can get some of the dual chamber ones like the Keltec that double that. In most SHTF scenario, just having a firearm and racking it will be enough. People talk a lot but the ones actually able to see things through and have a modicum of training with their firearms would be well ahead of everyone else.
As far as range, most engagements are probably within 25 yards. A 12 gauge loaded with buckshot would do perfectly fine. People don't need ARs designed to go to 400yd unless you're doing actual warfighting.
My point is that a fully legal shotgun is going to do way better than a 10 rd bullet button fixed mag no pistol grip AR, and unless you're willing to risk jail by having the ability to modify your rifle to make it non Cali compliant, you're probably better off with the shotgun.
Plus its easier to shoot. Most people talking about "SHTF" will take a gun out once a year to plink at a target. You're more of a liability to yourself having an AR and not regularly shooting it.
ARs are no more a liability than any other gun and I don't consider guns a liability at all anyway. I have a few of them and they are great guns. Accurate, fun to shoot and endlessly customizable.
Not sure where you live but there are gun classifieds near everywhere. I posted mine locally and had it sold within 2-3 days.Yeah lot of mil-surp has sky rocketed which I guess makes sense cause there was only so much made, but the price of Mosins is quite wild.
I have a 91/30 I'd love to get rid of as I bought it very early in my gun obsession and haven't shot it for about a decade and a half. It's fine but just don't want it, though I'm not sure where to sell it.
Honestly I think Mosins are pretty junk, there's way better bolt actions out there. I have an M48 (Yugo version of K98k basically) and that's way fricking better.
Edit: supposed to be quote reply to deadly's post above but apparently Quote no longer works in Tapatalk
Honestly I think Mosins are pretty junk, there's way better bolt actions out there.
Just got back from my nephews bachelor party in Ohio and had a blast! He didn't want to do the same old shit of bars and stripers so he decided to get all his buds out to the range for a day of shooting.
Here is a small sampling of the firearms that were available. There were so many more it is hard to put into words. I am not a gun guy so don't' ask me about them.
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One of the highlights of my day was getting to shoot the Stargate SG-1 gun!! Or as it it better known the P90. What an amazing weapon! I can see why it killed so many Jaffa!
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I have no idea what that means but I'm glad you spotted something interesting to you!Dibs on the Swiss straight pull.
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