Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: James3shin
ive gone from PC->Mac and can say things just make much more sense, as for the price/performance issue, its like apples and oranges, you really can't compare the two, except for the fact that they are both good, I don't know where this idea that macs are that much more expensive then PCs came from. I got my 12" G4 ibook for a cool grand, and is very competetive with Windows based laptops, desktop prices seem inline as well. Are people just looking at the liquid cooled dual G5 setups, or the 30in LCD's with the 2560x1600 res and basing the rest of apples prices on those? I mean those are the flag ship systems, that are with no rival, well perhaps the dual g5 has some comp from a nice 939 but otherwise a premium is going to be on things that have no peers. Sorrry for my rant, but it just seems people say some of the most ignorant things...long day, im out to read, again. Oh and Tiger is gonna be HOT!
Remember, paying a G5 and all those goodies is not about about having the fastest machine. IIRC it is defintiely not. It is about the experience of having a multitude of apps that are maticulously intertwined with the system. I realize that the PPPC/G5 chips are nice, but a 939 would be more cost effective and still be top of the line, if not faster...any gain from the G5 would be offset by the huge price.
What the hell is the point of spending so much if you will remove that which makes it special...ie osx?
I have used OSX, I have used linux...yadayada....in the nd, you buy a Mac bcause you will use OSx with it.
Depends on what system you run on it, OSX is not the only system which will run on a G5.
It's about having a different platform, a different system good for doing what it does very well.
I understand we are discussing two different things, i want systems that do what they do very well, not one system that will indeed work (most of the time) and does everything half-assed.
IOW, you can have your Dell, i like my setups.
You think I have a...dare I say it...a DELL? THOSE THIGNS ARE POS POSers ! IWOULD NEVER BE CAUGHT DEA WTIH A D377!!!!!
Seriously though, I do not have a dell, but I am attempting to be realistic. Whether you are interested in the highes floating point units or otherwise, there is gereally not a conclusively dramatic difference between modern PC's to justify purchasing a Mac to use without OSx. Fro mexperience in the corporate and education sectors, I have found Dell's to be quite reliable as far as PC's go. A harddrive will go bad, as will RAM, but as for their motherboards and in house production, I find that their quality is defintiely satisfactory.
To simply calssify Dell's as POS's is quite ignorant in my opinion. Perhaps they are not as modifiable as say your average Asus or MSI board a but for the sake of legitimate argument, that does not damn them to inadaquacy for everyone else.
Honestly, my setups are not that impressive, i just use the right tool for the right job, using a wintel Dell for a firewall is like using a screwdriver to unscrew a bolt, it just doesn't do the job.
I have been using Unix since the early 80's it is what *I* know, and it is what *I* like, i have been using Slackware and trust me some people seem to hate me for it ever since version 1 release.
Dell is hardware AND software, but you only get rescue disks, if i need another stick of memory, i know the type and i have a spare, if i need another HDD, i know what i want and i can just pull it out and my system will do just fine if i need to reinstall or even make a new install i can do that without breaking any agreements.
We are talking about two different things, one of us know their hardware, one of us does not.
Dell delivers mediocre hardware at a reasonable price, they will save and shave wherever they can but still deliver a system that is somewhet working (i have YET to see one Dell system fully compatible with the ACPI specs) so i won't be buying one.
You have your system, it works for you, great for you, but it wouldn't work for me, so i won't buy one.
Discussion over.
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