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The iChat thing was pretty neat, although the only problem lies within the issue of not many people owning a Mac. He said you have a voice chat with up to 10 people at the same time. Hell, only 8 people own a Mac!! :D :D

I kid, the video chat looked pretty amazing, although I'm sure it wouldn't run that smoothly in real life. Those people were probably networked and sitting back stage. The backdrops looked fairly setup.
 

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
I kid, the video chat looked pretty amazing, although I'm sure it wouldn't run that smoothly in real life. Those people were probably networked and sitting back stage. The backdrops looked fairly setup.

It's still light years ahead of anything winblows got. :D
 

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Have to admit the videoconferencing feature looked pretty cool, although its questionable how useful it would be outside of business environments (and even there, sparingly). Good for the "wow" factor, but probably not much more, certainly won't do anything for all the trendy types who tout Apple's ingenuity and then use their $3k Mac for nothing more than checking email.. Integrating search into the OS would only really benefit messy people who throw their stuff around haphazardly - ie. the aging hippies who make up most of Apple's demographic ;) I have a tendency to put stuff where I want it and where it's easily retrievable, ain't it strange?
 

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The iChat thing was pretty neat, although the only problem lies within the issue of not many people owning a Mac. He said you have a voice chat with up to 10 people at the same time.

Yup... that would be my own issue with it. I don't even personally know 1 person with a Mac.
 

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
The iChat thing was pretty neat, although the only problem lies within the issue of not many people owning a Mac. He said you have a voice chat with up to 10 people at the same time.

Yup... that would be my own issue with it. I don't even personally know 1 person with a Mac.

Will be interesting to see if they make it cross-platform or not.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
The iChat thing was pretty neat, although the only problem lies within the issue of not many people owning a Mac. He said you have a voice chat with up to 10 people at the same time.

Yup... that would be my own issue with it. I don't even personally know 1 person with a Mac.

Everyone I work with uses Macs. This will be so awesome at work, think of the possibilities. :D
 

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first off that's zdnet's site so its got nothing to do with apple or allowing the quicktime option, second did you read the slashdot article about longhorn, no winFS, and no avalon and no industry touted new API. and MS is praying they get it out sometime in 2006.
 

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Jigga
What sort of graphics language does an Apple X series OS use for Aqua? Is it a proprietary Apple thing or is it based off of OpenGL? I'm trying to figure out of DirectX 10 or 11 or whatever ships with Longhorn will be even better.

Pretty sure it's OpenGL, not positive though.

The Quartz Extreme engine which renders the Aqua environment is OpenGL based: http://arstechnica.com/reviews.../macosx-10.2-8.html#qe
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: neonerd
meh

ichat is pretty cool tho, would be nice if longhorn had something like that

that video conferencing is cool as hell!!
macs certainly own in the video world.

oh and im sure longhorn's gonna have something similar to compete with apple. but longhorn is probably going to ship it with 10000+1 bugs and holes which MS will send out patches and fixes for in the next 2 years...and by then the new version of windows will be coming out anyways with all the bugs worked out. go figure...its the MS way
 

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Nah, my Apple machines will still be running Linux and BSD, sorry Apple, you have to do better than that.
Why would you buy such expensive hardware and then run OSS on it? Why not just buy a $399 Dell for that?
 

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i wonder what kind of hardware that new ichat requires?
 

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Originally posted by: Wheatmaster
wow that is awesome!


I concur regarding the awesomeness of the presentation, but let's not forget that most of this stuff can be done with good third part apps and utils, there is no need to get an apple OS to get it.
 

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very cool.....

Unfortunately for me, I am unable to use a mac at school otherwise i would probably own a powerbook right now.
 

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Neat, but I really don't see a huge need for video teleconferencing outside of business and the ocassional long distance family call. The concept of iChat has been around for a long, long time, and it has never taken hold of a broad market. The search feature, if properly implemented, could be cool though.
 

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Nah, my Apple machines will still be running Linux and BSD, sorry Apple, you have to do better than that.
Why would you buy such expensive hardware and then run OSS on it? Why not just buy a $399 Dell for that?

Then he can say he's soooooo 31337 that he runs *nix on a Mac. :Disgust;
 

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Nah, my Apple machines will still be running Linux and BSD, sorry Apple, you have to do better than that.
Why would you buy such expensive hardware and then run OSS on it? Why not just buy a $399 Dell for that?

You are surely joking?

Why would i spend that kind of money on complete crap like a Dell?

I kinda like my powerbook, what does dell have to offer? Except a comp that i do not want, i am not going to start to tell you why not because i do not want a flame war, let's just say that the reasons were plentiful.

Same goes for my older apple machines. some apples, some home built amd machines, some Alphas.

 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Nah, my Apple machines will still be running Linux and BSD, sorry Apple, you have to do better than that.
Why would you buy such expensive hardware and then run OSS on it? Why not just buy a $399 Dell for that?

Then he can say he's soooooo 31337 that he runs *nix on a Mac. :Disgust;

Actually, i really don't care what others think, i have used Linux for a long time, it is what i use, i like the powerbook, so hang me.

I really, REALLY don't care what people think, if i did i would be running a Dell with Windows. just like you.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
The iChat thing was pretty neat, although the only problem lies within the issue of not many people owning a Mac. He said you have a voice chat with up to 10 people at the same time.

Yup... that would be my own issue with it. I don't even personally know 1 person with a Mac.

For my major I was required to buy a Mac laptop, so I know quite a few people with them. The whole department uses Macs. I went on and bought my Powerbook this summer b!tching all the way, thinking that is was a HUGE waste of money and that we should just use PC laptops (owned one of them, too).

Well, all I can say is DAMN. Nicest computer I have ever worked on, and it is all mine! 15" 1.5ghz Rev C, 1 gig pc2700 ram, 80 gig 5400rpm hd, 128mb Radeon 9700, and only 1" thick. Hook my 1800fp up to the built in dvi port, plug in my Intuos 2 tablet (to the USB 2 ports on the side mind you, no ports in the back :D), and I am teh Photoshop god! All said, I used to be a mac hater but god do I :heart: my Powerbook.

<-- Hippie graphic design student. :p
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wonder what kind of hardware that new ichat requires?
I believe the H.264 codec requires fairly steep hardware, probably at least a single-processor G5.