WOW!!! Check out Apple's Tiger OS!!!!!!

[0roo0roo]

Wow, the new version of iChat is really cool. I'm curious how well the Spotlight search REALLY works, though. If it's anything like Windows XP's "search" tool, I'll pass.

you can try it in itunes. seems fast. would be awesome if thats ahow it is more or less for the entire system.

 

[Vic]

Gah, can't see the video from the work rig. Will check later at home.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Yeah... It's definately time for Microsoft to release a updated version of Netmeeting. I hope that Bill's cronies were taking notes.

hey now that they know what to do, it shouldn't take them long...

License Apple technology?

Apple doesn't own H.264. There's nothing to license from them.

H.264 is a high compression digital video codec standard written by the ITU-T Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) together with the ISO/IEC Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) as the product of a collective effort known as the Joint Video Team (JVT). This standard is identical to ISO MPEG-4 part 10, also known as AVC, for Advanced Video Coding. The final drafting work on the standard was completed in May of 2003.

As far as I know, other than multi-point videoconferencing, iChat can't do anything like NetMeeting. iChat is kinda like CoolTalk, but with multi-point A/V.

BTW, MS licensed Intel technology for A/V (H.323) for NetMeeting. Considering the last time a released version came out (1999), I wouldn't hold my breath for a new version.

 

[Cerb]

Doesn't look that special to me.
I don't see how that helps me customize my shell, browse the internet, check mail, rip/encode/play audio, or edit pictures, spreadhseets, or text files. So far the only important thing OSX really has is the lack of the system tray.

It's neat and all, and MS should focus on their UI (both GUI and CLI), but I don't see anything really all that amazing.

Now, the notebooks are a whole different thread.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Slugbait

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Yeah... It's definately time for Microsoft to release a updated version of Netmeeting. I hope that Bill's cronies were taking notes.

hey now that they know what to do, it shouldn't take them long...

License Apple technology?

Apple doesn't own H.264. There's nothing to license from them.

H.264 is a high compression digital video codec standard written by the ITU-T Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) together with the ISO/IEC Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) as the product of a collective effort known as the Joint Video Team (JVT). This standard is identical to ISO MPEG-4 part 10, also known as AVC, for Advanced Video Coding. The final drafting work on the standard was completed in May of 2003.

As far as I know, other than multi-point videoconferencing, iChat can't do anything like NetMeeting. iChat is kinda like CoolTalk, but with multi-point A/V.

BTW, MS licensed Intel technology for A/V (H.323) for NetMeeting. Considering the last time a released version came out (1999), I wouldn't hold my breath for a new version.

I meant license iChat, not necessarily the technology behind it.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Childs
Hahahaha you guys are weenies. Longhorn this and Longhorn that...Longhorn wants to OS X. If it wasnt for the flair of OS X, PC users will still be using Windows 2000.

Many of us are still using windows 2000

:thumbsup:

 

[0roo0roo]

H.264 is a high compression digital video codec standard written by the ITU-T Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) together with the ISO/IEC Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) as the product of a collective effort known as the Joint Video Team (JVT). This standard is identical to ISO MPEG-4 part 10, also known as AVC, for Advanced Video Coding. The final drafting work on the standard was completed in May of 2003.

yup, basically the next gen after divx cpu burden is very high, but so is the compression. awesome stuff.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

H.264 is a high compression digital video codec standard written by the ITU-T Video Coding Experts Group (VCEG) together with the ISO/IEC Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG) as the product of a collective effort known as the Joint Video Team (JVT). This standard is identical to ISO MPEG-4 part 10, also known as AVC, for Advanced Video Coding. The final drafting work on the standard was completed in May of 2003.

yup, basically the next gen after divx cpu burden is very high, but so is the compression. awesome stuff.

I saw some clips on m 21'' dell 200fp and it looked gorgeous...was using 20% of a amd 64 3000+ though:Q

 

[0roo0roo]

where did u get clips? hd res clips with that codec would probably murder my pc.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
where did u get clips? hd res clips with that codec would probably murder my pc.

not hd.....720x480....they aren't that great...i was just impressed with the compression.


just search google for clips...you need a special player and codec to play them

 

[0roo0roo]

what i've found so far, i've seen this one before but its got some pics and decent info
http://www.balooga.com/mpeg4.php3

 

[Goosemaster]

http://www.moonlight.co.il/down_video_compare.php

i was impressed mostly with how pleasing the image was @1600x1200 compared to the alternative.... The compression is very forgiving and pleasing to the eye.

 

[udonoogen]

man i read this entire thread. what a waste of time. im on dialup and i didnt even see the film clip. LOL

 

[nageov3t]

that's it?

they want me to spent $2,000 for a video chat that I wouldn't be able to use to chat with my friends on Windows and Linux machines?

windows search (plus a not-crappy memory) works well enough for me, and they lost me the moment they started to compare it to iTunes.

 

[0roo0roo]

wtf are you talking about. windows search blows. esp when your talking huge 200+gb hd's these days.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wtf are you talking about. windows search blows. esp when your talking huge 200+gb hd's these days.

but how often do you need to use it?

I think I've used it like twice in the past 6 months, and each time it was able to do the job well enough.

 

[Snapster]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wtf are you talking about. windows search blows. esp when your talking huge 200+gb hd's these days.

but how often do you need to use it?

I think I've used it like twice in the past 6 months, and each time it was able to do the job well enough.

I use it fairly frequently at work. When it's my home pc I pretty much know where everything is, but when it's at work, on shared pc's and network drives I have to use the search, and it blows. Apple's spotlight is pretty much what M$ said they'd do with longhorn, except they got there first. With WINFS you can database 'query' the file system, and I guess probably even save the query like you can in Apple's finder (smart folder). Props to Apple for some of their stuff they've done in past years. Maybe M$ might get their act together

 

[0roo0roo]

i use it every day. but some of us have more files and are less organized then others.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Wow, the new version of iChat is really cool. I'm curious how well the Spotlight search REALLY works, though. If it's anything like Windows XP's "search" tool, I'll pass.

I really don't like iTunes, but I have to admit that the search feature in iTunes is amazing. They are not kidding when they say "instant" results. You have to try the iTunes search feature. If they can do that with all your files then nothing else is even a close comparison in terms of search.

 

[Jeff7181]

I'll admit, some of those features are really fuggin cool and I wish Windows included them. If Macs weren't so fuggin expensive, I'd be tempted to get one as a general use type of computer and leave my PC for gaming.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
I like how it lets you only watch it in Real or WMP and not in quicktime

hilarious, they don't even cater it to mac users

 

[biffbacon]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Now they just need to lower the price.

id really consider buying a mac if they werent so damn expensive. i really like mac os, but you cant game for sh!t. if it were cheaper, id like to get a mac for my everyday stuff, and just use the PC for gaming like my xbox.

 

[randomlinh]

i dont' game very much... so a mac would be great for me. I'm starting to seriously consider a G5... the price tag is what is killing me cause I would want a powermac or powerbook... not an iMac. A 15" powerbook now as my main machine would be rather tempting... heh

 

[SuperTool]

That's awesome. Finally a company building an OS with features that people want, instead of pushing features down our throats. Apple is really doing great user interface designs.

 

[Koing]

Apple stuff is very good. The price is not like for like as most of it is high end stuff. They don't cater tot he $800 type of market. They give fvck all ram but most companies do that...and the graphics card is also pitiful...but that isn't what a Mac is all about. It is about ease of use and the 'whole' package.

It is a bit more pricey then a PC but the PB are comparatively priced imo compared to high end laptops. But they are still too heavy imo. I'll see what a G5 laptop looks and weighs like .

iChat looks cool but I wouldn't be using it as I hardly ever chat with a webcam. I don't even have a webcam.

Koing