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work/life balance and security in Europe and US
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GTaudiophile
Lifer
You totally borrowed that from Sicko. And that dude was not insured if you recall.
JeffreyLebowski
Lifer
You're proving OUR point. An armed society is a polite society. If everyone had guns a lot less people would commit crimes against other because they know they will get shot.
Oh and about the US defecit. Sorry that after we sent billions of 1940's dollars to England to fight Germany and after liberating France and fighting our way towards Berlin and bombing the shit out of your precious Continent, we decided to pay to rebuild it all for you. Lets not forget about Japan. We fire bombed them and used atomic weapons on the 2x, but we still went in and burdened the cost of rebuilding their entire economy and look at what they turned into. The world owes the US more than the US owes the world. The reason we can encour such debit is because when push comes to shove, the US has proven time and again that it will step up to the plate and come through. (once Bush is out of office. HAHA P&N here we come)
Oh and I find it awesome that you are comparing a Continent and it's economies to a country.
so the insurance companies are holding a gun to yours and the doctor's heads forcing you to not pay cash and the doctor not to accept cash?
again, medical care is scarce and must be rationed in some fashion. that you think anything, let alone something as complex as medical care, can go unpaid for shows how naive you are.
Sorry, but an extremely racist society is not a humane society in my opinion. The majority of the European population is racist, and many governments are dominated by racist ideology. A perfect example is Switzerland.
I'm sure that Europe is nice, but it has its negatives too. And one of the major ones is the rampant racism endorsed by the society and the government.
Didn't read all of the thread, just the first 15 posts or so. This post is so full of ignorant crap that I had to reply. You sound like a complete idiot, and a troll to boot. First, Family Medical Leave act gives mothers 12 weeks when they have a baby. This is Federal Law, and a company cannot fire you for taking the extra time. Most companies offer 6 weeks paid leave already, and the extra 6 are not paid but most of the time you can use your paid vacation in substitution. Also, most companies are now offering 4-6 weeks of paid paternity leave for fathers. For example, a male executive at my firm just took 6 weeks paid off when his wife gave birth. Now there are some exceptions with part time workers who are not always protected by the same laws, but part time work is very transient anyway and easier to obtain when a woman wants to re-enter the workforce.
Seconly, our healthcare is not universal, but it is higher quality. I am in Holland in the moment on business. One of colleagues here is complaining about his mother-in-law, who CANNOT get proper treatment for cancer, even with her full state coverage, because there are not enough resources and doctors. So in other words, she is dying and the government cannot guarantee her care, even though she was guaranteed exactly that in the first place. So much for the higher taxes to pay for health care. At least in the US, you can obtain care. Most people have insurance which is heavily subsidized by corporations. Most people pay about $50 per month for themselves, sometimes $150-$300 for a family of 3-4. That is not bad considering we make more than anyone else. And their are free hospitals for basic care. I know because my wife has worked at one for 7 years.
Thirdly, Europe has a low standard of living. I have a 3100 square foot house that I paid $210,000 for 3 years ago. Appreciation brings that to about $250,000 now, and I do not live on the coasts either. I live in TX. But my standard of living here is extremely high. Everything is cheap, including child care, food, and entertainment. I am in Europe, and Directors over here who out earn me and out rank me have much smaller habitation, so-so health care, very small cheap cars, and cannot afford to eat out all the time. I would say their average quality of living is much lower. Now, they like to come to the US because of exchange rates makes it cheap, and they get more when they are here. There is a reason for that.
I like Europe a lot. I plan to travel here quite a bit. But the picture you have painted in your post is completely out of line.
JeffreyLebowski
Lifer
2,000,000 people and that number includes 700,000 people that aren't actually going bankrupt, those 700,000 are dependants. Good way to inflate that number huh?
So let's see 300 million people in the US (Not counting illegals) the real number from your post of 1.3 million going bankrupt = 0.45% of the population, not even half a percent. And it's not a fair comparison because the gov picks up the slack for you in Europe right? What happens in Europe when you don't have enough money to cover your cost? They just give you more?
Lets not forget that Europe creates all these social programs at the expense of their own security, well not really because the U.S. provides them their security. Without a U.S. deterrent, Russia could steamroll through Europe, just as they would have 50yrs ago if we werent standing guard over your continent. If the U.S. decided to pack up and go home, you would be completely at the whim of your eastern neighbors, because living under the skirt of the U.S. for so long has made you impotent to external threats. You think you are better than us because you can sit back and enjoy the benefits of having another country at your becking call to look after you. We cant afford these grand social programs, because we are busy trying to keep order in a world European colonial powers royally fucked up. Europe hates us because they need us.
Linflas
Lifer
The bills went to her of course and like any responsible person she paid them out of her own pocket since the Canadian system would not. Most places I have worked that offer HMO also offer a PPO plan as an alternative. They cost more but I am willing to pay the cost in order to not have to deal with the limitations of HMO's.
YOU simply don't realise, now do you?
The source is NOT me, but all the researches and everything...
best cities to live in the world- most in Europe. Best countries to live in-most in Europe. Best quality of life- most countries in Europe.
Minimum wage in EU is in some countries almost double of yours. Wages, median, are HIGHER. Access to free education, medical help etc is almost universal.
NO, america is not the best country to live in, by quality of life... because quality of life
is more than money.
YOu keep forgetting that MANY things you PAY we get here for free... kindergartens, universities, many things.
If YOU think USA has highest salaries on for example IT managers- then scroll HERE, down to middle...
http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/isl/salcomp.htm
US ranks number 14 for wages for IT managers!
Every, but EVERY research, or anything places European countries higher in quality of life...
So, all of THEM must be wrong, right?
And i never attacked anyone here, or called him/her an idiot...
JeffreyLebowski
Lifer
America Fuck Yeah!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N..._Cemetery_and_Memorial
Show me any European National Cemeteries in other countries. Oh wait, you can't.
Let's face it. It all really boils down to if it weren't for the US everyone in Germany would be speaking either German or Russian. Germans don't like America because we foiled their plans. The rest of the Europeans are mad because they can't admit that it took a bunch of Yanks to free them
USA USA USA USA USA USA
Since i know that's all you hear when you speak to an American right? You don't actually listen to what he has to say.
zinfamous
No Lifer
argh. that's not my point at all. healthcare is a universal human right, no different than adequate drinking water, education, etc. There is currently $435 billion of taxpayer money that has been thrown into the pooper over an illegitimate war that 72% of Americans do not support.
...this indeed sounds like a nice revenue source to provide healthcare. Do you disagree?
JeffreyLebowski
Lifer
Universal human right? You must like going to Amsterdam and smoking lots of pot in the bars. The Only human right you have at birth is that you have the right to die. Show me one place where it says I have the RIGHT to health care? Does the Constitution or whatever document your country use to law out it's fundamental values and laws state that everyone has the right to Universal health care? Does the Bible or Koran or Snoopy comic strip say everyone get universal health care? Also notice, it says universal, not FREE.
i disagree that anyone provides "healthcare." and if it was provided it'd certainly be a failure.
and there is more money in the overhead of the current system than in the iraq occupation.
you still haven't shown how you can overcome the scarcity of the good.
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