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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.

OK, maybe not Ultra Conservative. How about the Lunatic Fringe of the Far Right? LOL:) You sure aren't a Moderate Rip.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

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Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

Text


LOL,yes it is! Ultra conservative,no new taxes cause no new taxes means more for me and nothing for thee.Of course the song changes if a disabled kidlet pops out or somebody's elderly relative ends up needing long term skilled nursing care:)
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

Text
Uh....yes. Look at the body of your first post.

Why should the government have the right to confisicate my hard-earned money, essentially at the point of a gun, and give it to someone else?

It should be a person's right to choose if he wants to be philanthropic or not.

In the past, churches, civic organizations, and charities provided a helping hand to get people back on their feet so that they could support themselves.

Now we have generation and generation on the dole.

Just another example of liberal policy gone bad.

No handouts! F*ck poor people! Liberals bad! They're to blame for everything!

rolleye.gif


 

ElFenix

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eh, you know welfare has failed when girls go around saying they have the golden checkbook between their legs
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

Text
Uh....yes. Look at the body of your first post.

Why should the government have the right to confisicate my hard-earned money, essentially at the point of a gun, and give it to someone else?

It should be a person's right to choose if he wants to be philanthropic or not.

In the past, churches, civic organizations, and charities provided a helping hand to get people back on their feet so that they could support themselves.

Now we have generation and generation on the dole.

Just another example of liberal policy gone bad.

No handouts! F*ck poor people! Liberals bad! They're to blame for everything!

rolleye.gif

Yeah, the Great Society. That was a really good idea, right?
 

xuanman

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

Text
Uh....yes. Look at the body of your first post.

Why should the government have the right to confisicate my hard-earned money, essentially at the point of a gun, and give it to someone else?

It should be a person's right to choose if he wants to be philanthropic or not.

In the past, churches, civic organizations, and charities provided a helping hand to get people back on their feet so that they could support themselves.

Now we have generation and generation on the dole.

Just another example of liberal policy gone bad.

No handouts! F*ck poor people! Liberals bad! They're to blame for everything!

rolleye.gif

Yeah, the Great Society. That was a really good idea, right?

damn that lbj for trying to help people. it was definitely a liberal conspiracy to make govt. big for liberal global domination.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I don't think private schools should be funded by taxes at all and I sent 2 of my 3 boys to a private High School.

So, the big proponent of public education sends his kids to private schools! Talk about ironic!

Public education is good enough for everyone else, but not your kids?
They wanted to go because they wanted a Christian Education. Even though I'm an atheist who am I to deny them that if their Grandmother was willing to foot the bill?:D BTW, one of them become an Ordained Minister this summer (After his Mission in Indonesia is completed)

BTW, they didn't have to wear a uniform though they had a dress code.

Good for them. Are there any safety issues in Indonesia?

So when are you going cross over from the dark side?
Just because my stepsons believe that bullsh!t doesn't mean that I do. I must add that Private Christian School didn't make them narrow minded Ultra Conservatives like it did you.

Ultra conservative, hardly? Do you read any of my posts? And I'm no more narrow minded than you are.
What the hell are you smoking?

To wit:

I think that George has really distinguished himself since 9/11.

Thank goodness for FOX and O'Reilley.

Revealed by a former Leftist activist: how the Left has corrupted our culture and obliterated our values (my personal favorite).

Let's all be thankful for the religious right.

What do these threads have to do with being an ultra conservative?

Like Red Dawn, I don't think my beliefs fit neatly under any labels.
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH!!!! That's priceless.

I guess we've figured out what happened to the Iraqi Information Minister; he's posting as "Riprorin". Only he could say something like that with a straight face. :p

Is this a thread an ultra conservative would start?

Text
Uh....yes. Look at the body of your first post.

Why should the government have the right to confisicate my hard-earned money, essentially at the point of a gun, and give it to someone else?

It should be a person's right to choose if he wants to be philanthropic or not.

In the past, churches, civic organizations, and charities provided a helping hand to get people back on their feet so that they could support themselves.

Now we have generation and generation on the dole.

Just another example of liberal policy gone bad.

No handouts! F*ck poor people! Liberals bad! They're to blame for everything!

rolleye.gif

Yeah, the Great Society. That was a really good idea, right?
You know what's sad? You are unwittingly supporting Red's assertion that you're an arch-conservative with each subsequent post.


Anyway, your assertion that uniforms will improve education lacks concrete evidence to back it up. You are, as usual, ranting without a leg to stand on.

 

Ylen13

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I can't believe the way some kids dress to go to school.

Geez, all schools should have uniforms or at the very least, a dress code.

should we give the parents choice of signing there kids out of having to ware uniforms or do you feel everyone must wear uniforms regrdless if we are violating student freedom of expression right
 

NetWareHead

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: geno
Geez, all schools should have uniforms or at the very least, a dress code.
bah! Screw you, uniforms blow
No way, I loved having uniforms in high school! Of course, I went to an all boys catholic high school, so I wasn't out to impress anyone. You could wear the same uniform for a week straight! Who cared? I'd rather wear a dirty/wrinkled uniform than do laundry! :)

oh man, sound like me in Jr High (had uniforms). "No one will know if I reuse my blue shirt...here goes!" :D

Lol :) I was the same way...I wore the same tie for my entire senior year of HS...I didnt even un-tie it, just loosened it and hung it around my chair till the next morning.
 

NuclearFusi0n

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hahaha in middle school i'm pretty sure i wore the same pants day in day out for the entire year - at least half of it.
 

bozack

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I don't know if I would support a "uniform" per say, but I would be in favor of a dress code, especially one that specifically was aimed against designer fashion brands in the school system. I think that there is a good deal of undue pressure put on children who are not as well to do in the public and priate school systems when they have to focus more on how they look and what they have instead of what is truly important, their academics.

I was fortunate enough to attend private schooling as a child and then attended a state university, throughout my younger and highschool years we had a dress code but no school uniforms....easier on the parents because they could still shop where they like as long as they bought clothes that met the visual requirements, but still bad because some children could afford nicer things than others and it was usually a factor, especially in the younger years...not so much in high school as for me that was an all male Jesuit school where appearance really didn't matter, however had I attended a co-ed school I am most certain there would be more pressure to have higher end items.

I think the most appaling thing I saw with re. younger children and dress was when I went into a Fredricks store with my fiancee as she had never been in and wanted a good laugh, when we happened to see a somewhat older scantily clad mother with her two very younger daughters who were just as scantily clad and the items that their mother was allowing them to pick out at a rather risque store...well it was just beyond my comprehension and I was rather upset that people have no common decency with regards to their children.
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I can't believe the way some kids dress to go to school.

Geez, all schools should have uniforms or at the very least, a dress code.


State mandated dress code would infringe upon yet another individual liberty that is taken for granted and would just be one more thing on the long list of affairs the government has its nose in yet has no business being in. What people choose to wear is their individual right, and if parents see fit to extend that right to their children (which within reason is the rational approach) then they have the freedom to do so as they see fit. If it bothers you, too effin' bad. :)
 

BatmanNate

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Also, arguing that this should be mandated by law to save parents money is ridiculous. You have a choice what you buy for your children if you buy their clothes, and despite what they may demand you have the choice of how much money to allocate for that kind of thing. It's not the state's place to relieve you of the burden of choice in matters like this, for such a blatant conservative you have taken an ironic stance.
 

Ylen13

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Originally posted by: bozack
I don't know if I would support a "uniform" per say, but I would be in favor of a dress code, especially one that specifically was aimed against designer fashion brands in the school system. I think that there is a good deal of undue pressure put on children who are not as well to do in the public and priate school systems when they have to focus more on how they look and what they have instead of what is truly important, their academics.

I was fortunate enough to attend private schooling as a child and then attended a state university, throughout my younger and highschool years we had a dress code but no school uniforms....easier on the parents because they could still shop where they like as long as they bought clothes that met the visual requirements, but still bad because some children could afford nicer things than others and it was usually a factor, especially in the younger years...not so much in high school as for me that was an all male Jesuit school where appearance really didn't matter, however had I attended a co-ed school I am most certain there would be more pressure to have higher end items.

I think the most appaling thing I saw with re. younger children and dress was when I went into a Fredricks store with my fiancee as she had never been in and wanted a good laugh, when we happened to see a somewhat older scantily clad mother with her two very younger daughters who were just as scantily clad and the items that their mother was allowing them to pick out at a rather risque store...well it was just beyond my comprehension and I was rather upset that people have no common decency with regards to their children.

what happened to studetn freedom of choise??

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Ylen13

what happened to studetn freedom of choise??

the primary function of school is to educate children, sure there are some positives to the social aspects and it does help "build" them with re. their social skills, however i don't think a dress code that had a provision against high end brand label clothes would hurt any students in achiveing their education....is it communism? well in a way since you are regulating what people can and cannot do with their money, but in this case I feel the needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few...there are less who are fortunate enough to afford high end designer clothes and there is undue stress put on children who cannot compete with the financial success of others parents.

a limited dress code will still allow parents and children some degree of choice and maintain their individuality, but it will also allow for a standard of appearance, and discourage those who are better off from flaunting their wealth putting the focus back on the individual and not what they wear or own. I also believe the amount of gadgets (Cell phones, video games...etc) students can use while in the classroom or on school grounds should be regulated as really they have no place in the school setting..but that is my opinion
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
blah blah blah it doesn't affect you, so mind your own business.

I pay school tax. That makes it my business.


*edit* I read most of the thread now...


This is ridiculous. Everyone is claiming there is alot of undue pressure on children to buy the expensive clothes? Thats a load of bull. Im a senior in highschool right now, so you can say that I just got done going thru all that "pressure". I have lived as a pretty poor kid, and a pretty well off kid. (My parents weren't doing to great when I was younger) and I can tell you that I never once had to REALLY worry about whether or not I had name brand clothes. I just wore what I liked. If I wanted to look like a slob, why is it any of your buisness to stop me? If you don't like what I look like close your eyes. After all didnt you all just admit that school should be focused on academics and not clothes? Well then it shouldn't matter if I come to school in my pajamas should it?