Why do parents let kids go to school looking like slobs?

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
come on people, keep the comedy coming!
M4H sans pants is about as funny as it gets. :p

Hey, at least I don't wear a bike thong. ;)

- M4H
Thank God. The "M4H Thong Prohibition Act" was the most sensible piece of legislation Canada has passed in recent years. :p

Lol,now let's pray he doesn't move to the USA :)
We're good for at least 10 years if that proves to be the case since I have a patent on the BikeThong(tm). I'll have him deported for copyright infringment if he so much as puts on a pair of short-shorts. :p

Awww. Can I at least get Fair Use rights for the bedroom? ;)

- M4H
GAH!! :Q

/pokes out mind's eye

PWNED!

- M4H
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm getting a kick out of watching you guys gloat. Keep it up it's a good laugh. Don't get hurt slapping yourselves on the back.

It's hard to take you very seriously when you can't even count. Please explain how I showed one study.

An Examination of the Effect of School Uniforms on Student Achievement and Behavior

1. The issue of implementing a school uniform policy has both strong supporters and opposition. Those in favor of uniforms claim there are many advantages to instituting them: improved scholastic performance, student security, student discipline, and school morale (Caruso, 1996).
Those who object to this idea claim that such a policy violates the First Amendment and that educators and schools will not see the dramatic effects its advocates claim (Caruso, 1996). Should school uniforms be required in order to better student achievement and behavior?School uniforms seem to be making a difference in the public schools all over the country. One example would be the Long Beach Unified School District where students are required to wear uniforms. According to district teachers, the uniforms have constructed a better classroom/learning setting by curbing gang tension and the polarization associated with name brand clothing (Caruso, 1996). Clothing influences the way students see themselves (Caruso, 1996).

2. Research by Behling (1994) indicates that clothing can create a "halo effect," whereby a student in uniform is seen as better behaved, a high academic achiever, and someone with academic potential, particularly when they wear a "dress uniform," i.e., pants or skirt with a blazer. Behling (1994) states that it is evident that school uniforms, or a uniform style of dress positively influence the perception of school - related behavior by both peers and teachers.

3. A California school has found a successful formula for making uniforms into symbols of school pride (Loesch, 1995).

4. School uniforms will level the playing field in classrooms by removing the messages of social and economic status carried in apparel (Dressed for Survival, 1994). However, uniforms tailored to individual schools may increase in value a school's sense of community and students' self-esteem (Dressed for Survival, 1994). School uniforms aim to improve school climate and reflect a sense of pride and affiliation.

5. Among the public school systems with a required uniform policy can document success by the 83,000 - student Long Beach District in California (Elam and Rose, 1996). This study by Elam and Rose (1996) report that assault and battery cases in grades K - 8 dropped 34% in two years, physical fights dropped 51%, and suspensions dropped 32%.

6.Student benefits include enhanced self-image, improved academic indicator ratings, and increased participation (Hoffler--Riddick and Lassiter, 1996).
A study by Hoffler--Riddick and Lassiter (1996) shows school benefits which include a dramatic decrease in discipline infractions, improved attendance, and an improvement in the overall instructional climate.

Anyway, I haven't done a doctral dissertation on the topic (which is what Fausto seems to require for every argument else he proclaims himself the winner). The studies I've seen plus my own life experience and common sense tells me that uniforms or at least a dress code should be required for school attendance.

Must piss you off to have all your arguments labled as that of a lunatic because of the way you are perceived here.

Not really. I take the audience into account.

Geepers, I wonder why people have such a negative view of you now....
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, if you know what kind of response you're gonna get, and you don't like it here, <m4h>STOP POSTING</m4h>


Gee, and I thought that I was one of the most beloved members here.
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NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I'm getting a kick out of watching you guys gloat. Keep it up it's a good laugh. Don't get hurt slapping yourselves on the back.

It's hard to take you very seriously when you can't even count. Please explain how I showed one study.

An Examination of the Effect of School Uniforms on Student Achievement and Behavior

1. The issue of implementing a school uniform policy has both strong supporters and opposition. Those in favor of uniforms claim there are many advantages to instituting them: improved scholastic performance, student security, student discipline, and school morale (Caruso, 1996).
Those who object to this idea claim that such a policy violates the First Amendment and that educators and schools will not see the dramatic effects its advocates claim (Caruso, 1996). Should school uniforms be required in order to better student achievement and behavior?School uniforms seem to be making a difference in the public schools all over the country. One example would be the Long Beach Unified School District where students are required to wear uniforms. According to district teachers, the uniforms have constructed a better classroom/learning setting by curbing gang tension and the polarization associated with name brand clothing (Caruso, 1996). Clothing influences the way students see themselves (Caruso, 1996).

2. Research by Behling (1994) indicates that clothing can create a "halo effect," whereby a student in uniform is seen as better behaved, a high academic achiever, and someone with academic potential, particularly when they wear a "dress uniform," i.e., pants or skirt with a blazer. Behling (1994) states that it is evident that school uniforms, or a uniform style of dress positively influence the perception of school - related behavior by both peers and teachers.

3. A California school has found a successful formula for making uniforms into symbols of school pride (Loesch, 1995).

4. School uniforms will level the playing field in classrooms by removing the messages of social and economic status carried in apparel (Dressed for Survival, 1994). However, uniforms tailored to individual schools may increase in value a school's sense of community and students' self-esteem (Dressed for Survival, 1994). School uniforms aim to improve school climate and reflect a sense of pride and affiliation.

5. Among the public school systems with a required uniform policy can document success by the 83,000 - student Long Beach District in California (Elam and Rose, 1996). This study by Elam and Rose (1996) report that assault and battery cases in grades K - 8 dropped 34% in two years, physical fights dropped 51%, and suspensions dropped 32%.

6.Student benefits include enhanced self-image, improved academic indicator ratings, and increased participation (Hoffler--Riddick and Lassiter, 1996).
A study by Hoffler--Riddick and Lassiter (1996) shows school benefits which include a dramatic decrease in discipline infractions, improved attendance, and an improvement in the overall instructional climate.

Anyway, I haven't done a doctral dissertation on the topic (which is what Fausto seems to require for every argument else he proclaims himself the winner). The studies I've seen plus my own life experience and common sense tells me that uniforms or at least a dress code should be required for school attendance.

Must piss you off to have all your arguments labled as that of a lunatic because of the way you are perceived here.

Not really. I take the audience into account.

Geepers, I wonder why people have such a negative view of you now....
rolleye.gif


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, if you know what kind of response you're gonna get, and you don't like it here, <m4h>STOP POSTING</m4h>

I've got my own HTML tags! Yay!

/dances happy little jig
/pants fall off
/looks down
/shrugs

When in Rome ...

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

- M4H
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necro702

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
blah blah blah it doesn't affect you, so mind your own business.

I pay school tax. That makes it my business.
So because you pay school taxes you feel that entitles you to tell others how to dress?
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Absolutely. Do as you please, just don't ask me to pay for it. As long as I'm paying to support public schools, I'll say what I want, thank you.


#1 - You pay taxes to run the school and what not. You don't pay taxes to each kids family to buy them clothes. Maybe you should go find some of the 'slobby' looking ones and take them shopping.

#2 - There are bigger problems in this world than how some of our children dress for school.

#3 - You pay taxes and have no control. Get used to it.
 

Dulanic

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2 things... When you come to my door and buy my kids clothes, you can tell me how to let them dress. But you don't do that so you have no room to talk. Also have you gone to a private school lately? Most catholic schools etc that have uniforms are much worse student wise then public schools (Not counting city schools, thoose always suck). In the average middle/upper class subarban area's the public schools /w no uniforms are actually better then the private schools /w uniforms. I wish I could find the study but I also remember reading drug use is higher also in the catholic schools then in the public schools atleast in the area I lived. Not to say there are no good private schools, there are some very good ones, and most the better ones actually don't have uniforms.
 

Riprorin

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I have school age kids so I've researched elementary schools in my area.

Test score wise, in each area of the county Catholic schools generally outperform public schools.

The best schools are Catholic schools in affluent suburbs.

Most of the non-Catholic, private schools don't provide data so I can't speak to them. The Jewish school is good, bit the sample size is small.

As far as drug use, etc. I'm surprised tat you think it's higher in Catholic schools. That's certainly not my experience.
 
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
I have school age kids so I've researched elementary schools in my area.

Test score wise, in each area of the county Catholic schools generally outperform public schools.

The best schools are Catholic schools in affluent suburbs.

Most of the non-Catholic, private schools don't provide data so I can't speak to them. The Jewish school is good, bit the sample size is small.

As far as drug use, etc. I'm surprised tat you think it's higher in Catholic schools. That's certainly not my experience.

Private Catholic school students have a 98% higher risk of "pre-pubescent acne" than non-Catholic public schooled children.

- M4H
 

Jojo1971

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Private Catholic school students have higher risk of getting molested by gay/pedophile catholic priests :)

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talking about uniform: doesnt a student who wear a wrinkled uniform look like a slob? you dont need to wear uniform to look decent..uniform is just one thing theres alot of other thing to be considered: how you keep your hair, have you brushed your teeth?, did you take a shower?, do you stink?, blah blah blah blah ah blah blah blah ah ah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...
 
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Originally posted by: Jojo1971
Private Catholic school students have higher risk of getting molested by gay/pedophile catholic priests :)

I posted that five days before you. The pebble remains in my hand, Grasshopper.

- M4H