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Why are Atheists so obsessed with hating Christians?

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leper84 said:
So you can force your hateful thoughts down my throat, but if I ask a question reasonably then fuck me?
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You started the thread, you generalized atheist behavior. You got a response, which wasn't even hateful. You see it as hate, which is part of the problem. You act like you are being fed to the lions. Responding with an opinion to someone who solicited a response is not forcing anything down anyones throat.
 
As a recently converted atheist, I'll never understand how I went so many years without knowing anything about the religion I so fervently defended. I mean, come on - Christianity was founded in a time when people didn't know where the sun went at night! The blue sky was actually an ocean held up by the clouds and crazy people were "possessed by demons!"

The reason atheists get so annoyed with Christians is because the religion has absolutely no basis in reality. The entire holy book is easily disproven by science and history - as well as the contradictions found within - yet the devout won't even listen!

It's very easy to convert if you can just break the cycle and THINK for yourself!
 
leper84 said:
Okay so you don't believe in it. Good for you, so why all the constant, hipster-esque hate towards people who do?

Its not like any of you have ever been seriously persecuted by a Christian (being taken to church or having someone knock on your door is not persecution). If you don't believe in something, what compels you to spend time obsessing and spewing irrational hatred? Wouldn't you just like... not care?

Its not like that kind of attitude shows severe insecurity or inadequacy or anything....
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First, I take exception to your presumption that Christians are entitled to promulgate their beliefs (by knocking at my door or other impositions on my time and privacy) as long as it's short of "serious prosecution" (of which you are apparantly the judge).

Second, the whole notion that blind faith in a belief is the ultimate virtue is galling. People who do not harbor any doubt about what's truth are also dangerous because they are capable of doing anything in the name of their beliefs.

Third, this is the kind of real world consequence that can come about because of applied religious belief (even if some of you will want to claim this really didn't happen...this time):

Here's a story we should all be ashamed of missing: George W Bush attempted to sell the invasion of Iraq to Jacques Chirac using biblical prophecy.

In the winter of 2003, when George Bush and Tony Blair were frantically gathering support for their planned invasion, Professor Thomas Römer, an Old Testament expert at the university of Lausanne, was rung up by the Protestant Federation of France. They asked him to supply them with a summary of the legends surrounding Gog and Magog and as the conversation progressed, he realised that this had originally come, from the highest reaches of the French government.

President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw "Gog and Magog at work" and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.

He explained that Gog and Magog were, to use theological jargon, crazy talk. They appear twice in the Old Testament, once as a name, and once in a truly strange prophecy in the book of Ezekiel
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush
 
Juddog said:
zane you really need to watch this video. All of it. After watching it I guarantee you will understand the position of the atheist much better than you do now (currently you are only doing the classic straw man - watch the video and maybe you'll be able to actually debate an atheist on a closer level to what they believe):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg
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I can't believe I watched that whole video. :thisforumneedsaheadsmackingagainstawallsmilie:
 
Hey OP! Let us know when we've sated your faux martyr complex so we can get back to discussing how we ain't getting any.
 
a disbelief is itself a belief. atheist's theism is non belief and is their rational for not having a moral core. Anything goes for an atheist.
 
IGBT said:
a disbelief is itself a belief.
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Just like not stamp collecting is a hobby.

IGBT said:
atheist's theism is non belief and is their rational for not having a moral core.
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Morals are cultural. You can't claim that your god holds the "best" morals when tens of thousands of countries worldwide grew into their own morals independently of your god.

IGBT said:
Anything goes for an atheist.
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Anything goes for a Christian. You do realize that your holy book preaches rape, torture, homophobia, slavery, genocide, incest, and a slew of other atrocities as moral code, right? Oh, that's right, you Christians like to pretend that never happened.


Steven Weinberg said it best; "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

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AFurryReptile said:
Steven Weinberg said it best; "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

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What makes them (doers of evil things) inherently good people?
 
AFurryReptile said:
Just like not stamp collecting is a hobby.



Morals are cultural. You can't claim that your god holds the "best" morals when tens of thousands of countries worldwide grew into their own morals independently of your god.



Anything goes for a Christian. You do realize that your holy book preaches rape, torture, homophobia, slavery, genocide, incest, and a slew of other atrocities as moral code, right? Oh, that's right, you Christians like to pretend that never happened.


Steven Weinberg said it best; "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Next...
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you can dance around it all you want but in the end your going to come back to the fact that atheism is your belief system. That's what you believe. And all that it entails.
 
IGBT said:
a disbelief is itself a belief. atheist's theism is non belief and is their rational for not having a moral core. Anything goes for an atheist.
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A Christian belief is itself a disbelief (in every other possible religious belief). Christian theism is belief in a supernatural power that is ready, willing, and able to impose eternal damnation on those among his creations who fail to follow "biblical" societal norms (with more than few oddities mixed in), and fear of damnation is the motivation seemingly needed by Christians in order to follow their "moral code". (It's either that or it's the the promised reward of eternal heavenly happiness that is needed to motivate.) Anything goes for a Christian as they have no doubts and therefore know no bounds under the sway of charasmatic preachers.
 
Because religious people keep posting inane nonsense on their Facebook/Twitter, car bumper stickers, billboards, school property, cubicles etc. and it drives atheists mad with anger.

Source

Also, this. <-- I called Poe's Law on this but apparently, I was wrong.
 
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