Why are Atheists so obsessed with hating Christians?

[CVSiN]

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say atheists are obsessed with hating Christians?
Have atheists claimed that Christians deserve to suffer for all eternity if they don’t accept evolution? Or have atheists burned people at the stake for committing heretical logical fallacies? Do Atheists protest at the funerals of soldiers waving signs that the spirit of philosophical naturalism hates Christians? Have Atheists systematically protected, covered up, and enabled child molesters in the National Academy of Science? Have Atheists tried to promote making it illegal for Christians to marry each other?
What exactly is it that Atheists are doing to hate on Christians?

You win.. that was great and on target.

 

[zanejohnson]

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God, therefor, atheism is anti-god...

its an incomplete thought.

 

[SlitheryDee]

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God, therefor, atheism is anti-god...

its an incomplete thought.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Zane has been refuted on this point multiple times that I can remember, but here he is spouting the same stuff as though those other discussions never happened. You have to adapt to new information dude. If someone refutes you and you don't have an answer, move on to greener theological pastures. If your philosophy isn't changing when you receive new information, then whatever it is that you're peddling, it isn't real knowledge.

 

[zanejohnson]

This is exactly what I was talking about. Zane has been refuted on this point multiple times that I can remember, but here he is spouting the same stuff as though those other discussions never happened. You have to adapt to new information dude. If someone refutes you and you don't have an answer, move on to greener theological pastures. If your philosophy isn't changing when you receive new information, then whatever it is that you're peddling, it isn't real knowledge.

i was an atheist first, then agnostic, now a theist..

come back when you've went full circle...

it took a long time for me to realize it was an incomplete thought, and i'm sure i'd argue exactly what you do now, then..

i dont worship any visual idol (ie. jesus, buddha, krishna, etc) but i think every one of those religions is representative of the one true God, who's not even a being per say, more an idea, and the grease that lubricates the wheels of life/time/light/aging/rebirth/the thousands of lifes we live in this "cycle"

 

[Charles Kozierok]

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God...

Why do you say that?

 

[zanejohnson]

i also believe we are own God, you have too, but never take away credit from the fact that at one point a "copy" was made, and then distributed.

 

[zanejohnson]

Why do you say that?

to say there is a no god... gives the idea of a "God" meaning...

you can't have it one way...

the second your thoughts go to thinking.. maybe there's no God... bam... you just created god in your mind.

just like to worship blindly without every entertaining the idea that there is no god... does the same... except that leaves you wide open for negative thoughts which will build and build on eachother and before you know it you've created a monster (an inner battle)

 

[Tormac]

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God, therefor, atheism is anti-god...

its an incomplete thought.

If I don’t believe in the existence of leprechauns, do I first have to acknowledge the existence of a leprechaun king? Sorry, I’m not following.

O?

 

[zanejohnson]

If I don’t believe in the existence of leprechauns, do I first have to acknowledge the existence of a leprechaun king? Sorry, I’m not following.

O?

quit thinking physical world.. your imaginary world is just as important.. if you believe there is a leprechaun king, then there is.. if you believe there is God, then there is... there's just no acknowledging it and then saying, wait... i dont believe that..

 

[Aikouka]

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God

How can I acknowledge something that doesn't even have a definition?

EDIT:

the second your thoughts go to thinking.. maybe there's no God... bam... you just created god in your mind.

Here's your problem. You didn't create "God" at all. To consider that something does not exist requires an actual definition of that thing in question. For me to say "the Christian God does not exist", I must use what they say the Christian God is. If I debunk their definition, then the entire thing falls apart.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

to say there is a no god... gives the idea of a "God" meaning...

Can't we separate the idea of something from the thing itself?

I watch Star Trek and they have transporters and above-light space travel. But those things don't suddenly exist because I think about them.

the second your thoughts go to thinking.. maybe there's no God... bam... you just created god in your mind.

Yes, there are gods in my mind. Just like there are Romulans and Klingons -- does that mean they also must exist?

Rather odd concept.

 

[Juddog]

This argument pretty much sums up the majority of atheist versus religionist discussions that I've seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg

 

[pelov]

quit thinking physical world

It's a hypothetical question by nature. They both are, if you haven't noticed.

You can consider a hypothetical scenario -- the existence of "god" in this case, whatever that god may be -- and not believe in it as fact. In essence, thinking does not equal believing.

because to even call yourself an atheist, you have to first acknowlege the existence of a God

Thus there's a difference between hypothetical and "acknowledging the existence of..." And as you yourself said, you can't have it both ways

 

[Tormac]

quit thinking physical world.. your imaginary world is just as important.. if you believe there is a leprechaun king, then there is.. if you believe there is God, then there is... there's just no acknowledging it and then saying, wait... i dont believe that..

Well this is the problem; the physical world is all I’ve experienced. I guess if the leprechaun king invited me into the Dimension of Shamrocks and served me Jameson in his emerald castle, I’d find it easier to accept that leprechauns existed. I wonder if he has any hot, but short daughters?
But since there is no Dimension of Shamrocks it’s hard for me to believe in it.

Edited it to add: How much Jameson do you think it would take before I started to see the Dimension of Shamrocks?

 

[zanejohnson]

Well this is the problem; the physical world is all I’ve experienced. I guess if the leprechaun king invited me into the Dimension of Shamrocks and served me Jameson in his emerald castle, I’d find it easier to accept that leprechauns existed. I wonder if he has any hot, but short daughters?
But since there is no Dimension of Shamrocks it’s hard for me to believe in it.

as far as the physical world goes.. we can agree there is a delay, between the electromagnetic waves we perceive with our eyes and ears, and the mental image our brain draws for our "OS," so technically, we are making our world, every moment... the universe, a moment old.. so what you "believe" really is, what you see, what you draw... imagine if you were schizophrenic.. something in that delay is "wrong" right?

see where i'm going with this?

your seeing a "reflection" of yourself..

if i wanted to be the king of leprechauns, i'd start dressing/acting as the king of leprechauns today..

remember anything physical has to go through 3 stages.. imagination, materialization, and finally realization

 

[Tormac]

quit thinking physical world.. your imaginary world is just as important.. if you believe there is a leprechaun king, then there is.. if you believe there is God, then there is... there's just no acknowledging it and then saying, wait... i dont believe that..

Oh and how in the world does this relate to the notion that to not believe in leprechauns I have to except in the existence of the leprechaun king? I'm still not following you.
O?

 

[zanejohnson]

Oh and how in the world does this relate to the notion that to not believe in leprechauns I have to except in the existence of the leprechaun king? I'm still not following you.
O?

i cant tell you anything that will magically make you believe.. i can only help with things like... telling you that, you can never convince someone of believing/non belief, because of the simple fact that, what we decipher as "real" is built within us... so you either believe or you don't... that part happens in the delay between reality and para/metareality (inner reality) (i dont know the word for it.. i'm just saying you control the switch in witch the God exists or doesn't

that was kind of the whole point

 

[DaveSimmons]

"I AM the pumpkin king!"

I guess Jack Skellington is real too then.

(Happy Birthday Danny Elfman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwRnW89EsxI ("Stay")

 

[jhansman]

Can I hate on Christians if I'm not an atheist? Sanctimony just upsets my digestion...

 

[Juddog]

i cant tell you anything that will magically make you believe.. i can only help with things like... telling you that, you can never convince someone of believing/non belief, because of the simple fact that, what we decipher as "real" is built within us... so you either believe or you don't... that part happens in the delay between reality and para/metareality (inner reality) (i dont know the word for it.. i'm just saying you control the switch in witch the God exists or doesn't

that was kind of the whole point

zane you really need to watch this video. All of it. After watching it I guarantee you will understand the position of the atheist much better than you do now (currently you are only doing the classic straw man - watch the video and maybe you'll be able to actually debate an atheist on a closer level to what they believe):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg

 

[Charles Kozierok]

if i wanted to be the king of leprechauns, i'd start dressing/acting as the king of leprechauns today..

That would make you a rather silly-looking human, not a king of leprechauns.

remember anything physical has to go through 3 stages.. imagination, materialization, and finally realization

Right, so there were no stars or planets or anything else before there were humans?

Good grief.

I seriously doubt that you were ever an atheist.

 

[zanejohnson]

zane you really need to watch this video. All of it. After watching it I guarantee you will understand the position of the atheist much better than you do now (currently you are only doing the classic straw man - watch the video and maybe you'll be able to actually debate an atheist on a closer level to what they believe):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9BfsHsVGNg

is your av the guy from the zig zag package???


i'll watch it

 

[zanejohnson]

That would make you a rather silly-looking human, not a king of leprechauns.

i loled to this

Right, so there were no stars or planets or anything else before there were humans?

Good grief.

I seriously doubt that you were ever an atheist.

we all take different paths, i'm not gonna argue about it... last thing though, i know humans are def. not the only beings with "thoughts" in this place...

 

[zinfamous]

i was an atheist first, then agnostic, now a theist..

come back when you've went full circle...

it took a long time for me to realize it was an incomplete thought, and i'm sure i'd argue exactly what you do now, then..

i dont worship any visual idol (ie. jesus, buddha, krishna, etc) but i think every one of those religions is representative of the one true God, who's not even a being per say, more an idea, and the grease that lubricates the wheels of life/time/light/aging/rebirth/the thousands of lifes we live in this "cycle"

great.

yet another one replacing drug addiction with dios addiction.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say atheists are obsessed with hating Christians?
Have atheists claimed that Christians deserve to suffer for all eternity if they don’t accept evolution? Or have atheists burned people at the stake for committing heretical logical fallacies? Do Atheists protest at the funerals of soldiers waving signs that the spirit of philosophical naturalism hates Christians? Have Atheists systematically protected, covered up, and enabled child molesters in the National Academy of Science? Have Atheists tried to promote making it illegal for Christians to marry each other?
What exactly is it that Atheists are doing to hate on Christians?

Oh snap son. I don't know who this guy is, but I like him. Not a big fan of the giant font though...