Transcript edited or in it`s entirety?

[repoman0]

Transcript looks good. Trump exonerated yet again. You'd think Democrats would be tired of coming up with schemes that they know will come up empty.

The words of a sad loser whose self-worth is so pathetically tied to a 70-something decrepit and senile criminal. This dude will always be back to lick balls no matter how hard Trump sells out the country.

 

[interchange]

WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says

The White House is working as quickly as it can to release to Congress a whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible, a senior administration official told Fox News late Tuesday -- hours after House Speaker Nancy...

www.foxnews.com

Whistle blower had anti-Trump bias.

Here are some nuggets from the article:
1. "Separately, a senior administration official told Fox News the White House has been working as quickly as it can to release to Congress the whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible." There is no stated legal conflict barring release. In fact, it is illegal that it has been withheld.
2. "But the DNI general counsel said days later that, after consulting with the DOJ, the matter did not meet the legal definition of an “urgent concern," and was not subject to mandatory disclosure to Congress." Here is the stated reason for not releasing the complaint. This is certainly no legal conflict. It is also not up to them to decide whether the complaint is urgent. The IG already did. But the most horrible thing about it is that it is now clear that AG Barr is part of the allegations in the whistleblower complaint. For him to prevent the release of the complaint is the most textbook case of obstruction ever.
3. Releasing parts of the whistleblower complaint ahead of the entire complaint with the express purpose of coloring the complaint as partisan is also clear obstruction

 

[fskimospy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176897346761719810

 

[TheVrolok]

Okay I admit to being completely wrong on this one. I thought they were going to cover up all the insanely corrupt shit in their conversation and edit it out of the memo but they just left it in.

And remember this is still definitely edited. If this is what they WANTED people to see imagine how bad the rest is.

So we're all clear we now have the White House specifically producing documents that have the President of the United States requesting a foreign leader 'do him a favor' and work with his personal attorney and his AG to dig up dirt on his political rivals.

Okay Greenman and other 'wait for the facts', can we confirm we are full speed ahead on impeachment?

I feel exactly the same way. I'm fairly shocked they released this without further redaction. I guess they've gotten away with so much for so long that they honestly don't see the issue here.

Trump literally asked the leader of a foreign state to assist his PERSONAL ATTORNEY and AG to investigate his primary political rival. That's FUCKING NUTS.

 

[brycejones]

I feel exactly the same way. I'm fairly shocked they released this without further redaction. I guess they've gotten away with so much for so long that they honestly don't see the issue here.

Trump literally asked the leader of a foreign state to assist his PERSONAL ATTORNEY and AG to investigate his primary political rival. That's FUCKING NUTS.

But have you heard about this Hillary person and emails and uranium? /s

 

[zinfamous]

WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says

The White House is working as quickly as it can to release to Congress a whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible, a senior administration official told Fox News late Tuesday -- hours after House Speaker Nancy...

www.foxnews.com

Whistle blower had anti-Trump bias.

your brain is just a tumor.

 

[HomerJS]

Trump literally asked the leader of a foreign state to assist his PERSONAL ATTORNEY and AG to investigate his primary political rival. That's FUCKING NUTS.

Rudy and Barr go straight to jail and do not collect $200 (wonder if it went up)

 

[JEDIYoda]

WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says

The White House is working as quickly as it can to release to Congress a whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible, a senior administration official told Fox News late Tuesday -- hours after House Speaker Nancy...

www.foxnews.com

Whistle blower had anti-Trump bias.

Now that is funny!!!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

This whole thing just reflects the utter stupidity of Trump and Administration. Trump’s entire premise on the phone call is flawed—there was no investigation into Hunter Biden. There was an investigation into Burisma and how the oligarch who founded it likely siphoned off taxpayer money for his own benefit (later hiding it in Cyprus.)

Biden, the US Ambassador to Ukraine, and other world leaders asked to have the prosecutor general fired because he wasn’t doing *enough* to fight corruption—Shokin was actually slow walking the investigation into Burisma and effectively buried a U.K. investigation into the Burisma founder.

Trump literally committed an impeachable offense because he believed some bullshit he heard on Fox News. Congratulations for getting Trump impeached Hannity!!

Edit: Reposting this link someone shared in another thread—fast forward to February 2015 and read from there.

Timeline: Trump, Giuliani, Bidens, and Ukraine (updated)

A chronology of "Ukrainegate" and the Trump-Giuliani pressure on Ukraine to investigate former Vice President and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden.

www.justsecurity.org

For the record, I have my doubts on whether what Hunter Biden/Devon Archer were doing with Rosemont Seneca was fully above board. Sounds like a typical case of a corrupt entity hiring someone with access and credentials to appear less corrupt. But there is no record of any investigation (either in the US or Ukraine) into Hunter Biden.

Actually what it reflects is that Trump started believing his own lies and let his guard down...….couldn`t have happened to a less compassionate...oops,,,,,to more brilliant....opps…...to a more caring.....opps...well anyways ….

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Biden is already dropping in the polls in Iowa, NH and South Carolina, and has to now devote news cycles to defend innuendo around his son’s dealings in the Ukraine. That sounds damaging to his campaign.

Since he was already dropping in the polls, I figured he would eventually continue to be boring and get to Jeb Bush levels further down the line and eventually drop out.

Honestly something against his son this early probably wouldn't serve Trump very well, because there is plenty of time left for the Dems to hype up and select another candidate.

 

[brandonbull]

What do you want to bet it is edited in the interest of national Security??

Of course it's been edited. Once the whistle blower get the originals from their contact down at the local watering hole, we will know the truth. Until that happens, we are stuck with the facts.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Of course it's been edited. Once the whistle blower get the originals from their contact down at the local watering hole, we will know the truth. Until that happens, we are stuck with the facts.

Ah of course, it's a conspiracy. Please continue to tell us how this is actually good for Trump.

 

[Commodus]

Transcript looks good. Trump exonerated yet again. You'd think Democrats would be tired of coming up with schemes that they know will come up empty.

You would say Trump was exonerated even if he'd spent half an hour outlining the exact dirt he expected in return for aid, so as with most things you say, your opinion here is worthless.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

This is a pathetic lie even by your standards.

The Ukrainian President asks Trump for defense aid and Trump responds with asking him for a favor - to work with his personal attorney and his AG to investigate his political opposition.

Impeachment time.

And remember, this is the least damning summary they thought they could release.

It's morally reprehensible, but sadly won't be enough for Repub senators to vote for impeachment.

That's the thing is Trump has just really brought down the level of what is considered moral.

Did his statements overall hurt America? No. If anything it might energize his base as he is looking to show that dems are corrupt. It's sad but this might be the wrong move for you guys.

 

[zinfamous]

Transcript looks good. Trump exonerated yet again. You'd think Democrats would be tired of coming up with schemes that they know will come up empty.

That's no way to get to the front of the borscht line!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Biden is already dropping in the polls in Iowa, NH and South Carolina, and has to now devote news cycles to defend innuendo around his son’s dealings in the Ukraine. That sounds damaging to his campaign.

Double down on the deflection to Biden. That will make your other Comrades on these forums happy!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Transcript looks good. Trump exonerated yet again. You'd think Democrats would be tired of coming up with schemes that they know will come up empty.

Damb 2 laffs in one day!! This is better than Comedy central

 

[woolfe9998]

1. It turns out it's not actually a transcript. It's "the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty Officers and NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place".

2. It's *still* damning as hell.

If not, then why does it sound exactly like Trump talks, complete with "very bad people" and "very good people?" Looks a lot like a transcript. If it's notes, they're verbatim.

 

[trenchfoot]

Words I want to hear from Trump's pouty lips: "Eh fuck it already. Looks like I'm going to get all that I could get out of this lousy acting job that I never wanted in the first place. People just can't see real talent even if it got shoved in their faces. Unappreciative assholes. Sad. Better to lawyer up against those New York Perry Mason wanna-be's than give that ol' hag Pelosi the satisfaction of impeaching me. Hah! I win again!"

 

[woolfe9998]

Considering the administration has repeatedly altered previous transcripts it has released I don’t know why we would start believing them now.

The whistleblower’s complaint and testimony is what is most relevant here. Whatever the WH releases will be designed to make Trump look good.

Yet it turns out it is damning. I thought this too, but here it is.

 

[zinfamous]

It's morally reprehensible, but sadly won't be enough for Repub senators to vote for impeachment.

That's the thing is Trump has just really brought down the level of what is considered moral.

Did his statements overall hurt America? No. If anything it might energize his base as he is looking to show that dems are corrupt. It's sad but this might be the wrong move for you guys.

wat? who gives a shit about Trump's base? They are a tiny dickhole compared to the rest of the population. They are long unreachable by any standard of argument. The only proper move here is to enforce the standard of law.

It has absolutely nothing to do with any side. It's reclaiming constitutional law in this country, and holding these assholes accountable. there is only one right move here, and it's about the USA.

 

[dank69]

For my part I think that what happened with Biden will be looked into in a non-Benghazi way. If Joe happened to have done something that is improper then he ought to bear the consequences. Nevertheless, that is entirely separate from Trump's admission by his own words. If nothing is found then Biden will be fine as less dirt will stick and if this is all a sham by Trump it may help him.

I'm sad to see you even entertaining the idea that there is anything there. Still haven't learned that every single thing coming out of the conservative camp is manufactured from whole cloth.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Of course it's been edited. Once the whistle blower get the originals from their contact down at the local watering hole, we will know the truth. Until that happens, we are stuck with the facts.

stuck with the fact that Trump committed an impeachable offense!!

 

[fskimospy]

It's morally reprehensible, but sadly won't be enough for Repub senators to vote for impeachment.

That's the thing is Trump has just really brought down the level of what is considered moral.

I agree it is not enough for Republicans to vote for impeachment. I am interested to see what else comes out though because before I thought the odds of successful conviction were zero and now it seems nonzero (if only slightly higher).

Did his statements overall hurt America? No. If anything it might energize his base as he is looking to show that dems are corrupt. It's sad but this might be the wrong move for you guys.

His statements in effect said 'I'll give you military aid (paid for by American taxpayers) if you do me this personal favor. It definitely hurts America. As for the idea that everything Democrats do will somehow inflame Trump's base further into a frenzy of voting meh, I think it's bullshit. I wonder why you never hear Republicans warned to not do things because it might inflame the Democratic base?

This is the right move, win or lose. If Democrats don't stand up for the Constitution then apparently no one will. I know the one thing that would make the Democrats I know want to vote is impeachment.

 

[fskimospy]

If not, then why does it sound exactly like Trump talks, complete with "very bad people" and "very good people?" Looks a lot like a transcript. If it's notes, they're verbatim.

Heavily edited notes though.