there's more precision in fahreinheit, why do others keep using celsius?

[Parasitic]

Arbitrary Units requiring many different Equations just to perform Simple Tasks.

Most people don't sit around all day asking each other, "hey how many ounces are in 3.478 liters of horse manure that weighs roughly a kilogram per 1000 cubic cm?"

 

[Train]

Arbitrary Units requiring many different Equations just to perform Simple Tasks.

"Many different equations"? omg like how the fuck will I ever know how many feet 60 inches is? Oh god whats that conversion factor again? I'm soooo lost.

"Simple tasks"? such as? Dividing 60 by 12? Oh fuck without a calculator the only kind of math I know how to do is divide by ten because its easy!!! Im a fuckin EUROPEEEEEAN scientist!! I cant do anything not involving EASY factors of 10 because I chisel my work into cave walls and dont have computers or calculators. Gawd damn ameruhkins!

 

[sandorski]

theres a million examples of misplaced decimal disasters! Hello? I though metric users were smart?

You know how much money is lost each year on misplaced decimal points? Its right there if you want to read it.

Fail

 

[Train]

I Fail

Everybody knows this!

 

[us3rnotfound]

Only on the internet does this turn into a 8 page discussion.

Some of you need to get outside the house.

Shoot it's only 3 pages for me; I guess I am less precise :\

 

[sandorski]

"Many different equations"? omg like how the fuck will I ever know how many feet 60 inches is? Oh god whats that conversion factor again? I'm soooo lost.

"Simple tasks"? such as? Dividing 60 by 12? Oh fuck without a calculator the only kind of math I know how to do is divide by ten because its easy!!! Im a fuckin EUROPEEEEEAN scientist!! I cant do anything not involving EASY factors of 10 because I chisel my work into cave walls and dont have computers or calculators. Gawd damn ameruhkins!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_systemHere ya go have fun making sense of it.

 

[sandorski]

Most people don't sit around all day asking each other, "hey how many ounces are in 3.478 liters of horse manure that weighs roughly a kilogram per 1000 cubic cm?"

True, but how many Ounces are in 2 7/20 Gallons?

I'm not talking Metric/Imperial Conversion, but Conversion within Imperial itself.

 

[Train]

True, but how many Ounces are in 2 7/20 Gallons?
.

Show me ONE place that has gallons listed in twentieths.

You won't, because your arguments are fuckin retarted. You will find plenty of quarters, or eighths (or even decimal) listings when it comes to gallons, because there are units for that.

 

[us3rnotfound]

Show me ONE place that has gallons listed in twentieths.

You won't, because your arguments are fuckin retarted. You will find plenty of quarters, or eighths (or even decimal) listings when it comes to gallons, because there are units for that.

Let us ask what yours and Sandorski's respective occupations are.

 

[Parasitic]

True, but how many Ounces are in 2 7/20 Gallons?

I'm not talking Metric/Imperial Conversion, but Conversion within Imperial itself.

How often do people do that? In the states, we get decimals of a gallon, rarely fractions, if ever. When it's fractions, it's in halves, quarters or maybe sixteenths. In everyday life, the impact of having to convert things from one unit to another is minimal and rarely occurs.

Here's an example:

You go to the grocery store to buy apples. It's priced at $1.29/lb. You pick up 4 and they weight 3.5 lbs total. You pay 3.5 lb. * $1.29/lb = $4.52. The digital scales will give readings in both ounces and pounds. In a metric world, instead of having the prices in lbs you may get them in per kg. Your scale will be in grams or kilograms. It's the same one-step math.

Supermarkets do not sell things by the fluid ounce while providing a scale marked only in gallons, hence your question of fl. oz to fractions of a gallon occurs.

Some things they may price it at per 1/4 lb. or per oz, but it's not like in Europe or Asia you never buy things that are priced at per 100g ever. In that situation, you still have to take an additional step to multiply the unit price by 10 to get back to cost per kg.

Another example: you go to the gas station to fill up. You buy 14.8 gallons of gas at $3.429/gallon and pay 14.8 gallons * $3.429/gallon = $50.75. The gas gauge will read only in gallons, not fractions of a gallon or in liters. In Europe, you may do the same thing, only that the units are now in liters.

It's only annoying when you're sitting there converting the cost per liter back to cost per gallon. From most of the posts, it seems like people have this impression that Americans spend all day doing these meaningless conversions.

I can understand the frustration coming from some of the posts here, but we're a special case. Most of us here work in scientific, engineering or specialized industries where conversions happen a lot more frequently. Yes, imperial units are arbitrary and require more effort to get to the right units sometimes, but it's not like everything in this world works out to be perfectly nice integers. However, the US is not FORCING everyone else to convert to imperial units AT ALL. All of you arguing for the metric system seem to be insinuating that we are, without realizing that we have been trying for the past few decades and have currently arrived at this hybrid system we're using now to balance costs and ease of use.

It drives me nuts that some people have this ridiculous urge to want to convert everything back to metrics "just because". How exactly is getting the price of gas in dollars per liter better than knowing it per gallons when they're equivalent and you're paying the same amount to fill up a tank? What is the point of converting temperature from Fahrenheit back to Celsius when you're not comparing temperature differences between the US and another country?

 

[sandorski]

Show me ONE place that has gallons listed in twentieths.

You won't, because your arguments are fuckin retarted. You will find plenty of quarters, or eighths (or even decimal) listings when it comes to gallons, because there are units for that.

Fail is Fail. You're saying a Volume of 2 7/20 Gallons is impossible? What's your point?

 

[sandorski]

How often do people do that? In the states, we get decimals of a gallon, rarely fractions, if ever. When it's fractions, it's in halves, quarters or maybe sixteenths. In everyday life, the impact of having to convert things from one unit to another is minimal and rarely occurs.

Here's an example:

You go to the grocery store to buy apples. It's priced at $1.29/lb. You pick up 4 and they weight 3.5 lbs total. You pay 3.5 lb. * $1.29/lb = $4.52. The digital scales will give readings in both ounces and pounds. In a metric world, instead of having the prices in lbs you may get them in per kg. Your scale will be in grams or kilograms. It's the same one-step math.

Supermarkets do not sell things by the fluid ounce while providing a scale marked only in gallons, hence your question of fl. oz to fractions of a gallon occurs.

Some things they may price it at per 1/4 lb. or per oz, but it's not like in Europe or Asia you never buy things that are priced at per 100g ever. In that situation, you still have to take an additional step to multiply the unit price by 10 to get back to cost per kg.

Another example: you go to the gas station to fill up. You buy 14.8 gallons of gas at $3.429/gallon and pay 14.8 gallons * $3.429/gallon = $50.75. The gas gauge will read only in gallons, not fractions of a gallon or in liters. In Europe, you may do the same thing, only that the units are now in liters.

It's only annoying when you're sitting there converting the cost per liter back to cost per gallon. From most of the posts, it seems like people have this impression that Americans spend all day doing these meaningless conversions.

I can understand the frustration coming from some of the posts here, but we're a special case. Most of us here work in scientific, engineering or specialized industries where conversions happen a lot more frequently. Yes, imperial units are arbitrary and require more effort to get to the right units sometimes, but it's not like everything in this world works out to be perfectly nice integers. However, the US is not FORCING everyone else to convert to imperial units AT ALL. All of you arguing for the metric system seem to be insinuating that we are, without realizing that we have been trying for the past few decades and have currently arrived at this hybrid system we're using now to balance costs and ease of use.

It drives me nuts that some people have this ridiculous urge to want to convert everything back to metrics "just because". How exactly is getting the price of gas in dollars per liter better than knowing it per gallons when they're equivalent and you're paying the same amount to fill up a tank? What is the point of converting temperature from Fahrenheit back to Celsius when you're not comparing temperature differences between the US and another country?

Conversions between Units is often necessary, not always, but nevertheless it occurs. Within the Imperial system those Conversions are a PITA. That's all I'm saying and by your and Train's response, I suspect deep down you both agree.

 

[Parasitic]

Fail is Fail. You're saying a Volume of 2 7/20 Gallons is impossible? What's your point?

No scale will give you a reading of 2 and 7/20 of a gallon, but instead 2.35 gallons It's not an impossible value, but it's an impossible READING.

 

[Train]

Fail is Fail. You're saying a Volume of 2 7/20 Gallons is impossible? What's your point?

Nide dodge. You saying its hard to do something, that no one would do in the first place.

Hypothetical problem thats doesnt exist is not a problem.

Can you show one one place that has ever listed gallons in twentieths? No, because they wouldnt, gallons are always listed as quarters, eighths, or decimal.

sandorski your really grasping at straws with the stupid 7/20ths argument.

 

[Parasitic]

Conversions between Units is often necessary, not always, but nevertheless it occurs. Within the Imperial system those Conversions are a PITA. That's all I'm saying and by your and Train's response, I suspect deep down you both agree.

Like I say, in everyday life, it rarely matters. Hence to most people, there is essentially no difference between imperial and metric units. I'm not arguing that imperial units are better than metric units, but I'm arguing that it's meaningless to force Americans to fully metricize when our hybrid of a system works just fine.

 

[sandorski]

Nide dodge. You saying its hard to do something, that no one would do in the first place.

Hypothetical problem thats doesnt exist is not a problem.

Can you show one one place that has ever listed gallons in twentieths? No, because they wouldnt, gallons are always listed as quarters, eighths, or decimal.

sandorski your really grasping at straws with the stupid 7/20ths argument.

Negative, you just keep Dodging the question.

Scenario: Someone hands you a container of liquid. They want you to record the Volume in Ounces, all you have for Measuring the liquid is a container that measures Gallons. 2 7/20 Gallons is the result.

Compute to ounces.

Simple task, no?

 

[Train]

Negative, you just keep Dodging the question.

Scenario: Someone hands you a container of liquid. They want you to record the Volume in Ounces, all you have for Measuring the liquid is a container that measures Gallons. 2 7/20 Gallons is the result.

Compute to ounces.

Simple task, no?

Show me a container that you would read 7/20!!!

YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT DOESNT EXIST!!!!

 

[sandorski]

Like I say, in everyday life, it rarely matters. Hence to most people, there is essentially no difference between imperial and metric units. I'm not arguing that imperial units are better than metric units, but I'm arguing that it's meaningless to force Americans to fully metricize when our hybrid of a system works just fine.

I agree with Bolded, but the rest of it doesn't really match up with the Bolded.

 

[sandorski]

Show me a container that you would read 7/20!!!

YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT DOESNT EXIST!!!![/QUOTE]


Moot point, Calculate.

 

[Parasitic]

Nide dodge. You saying its hard to do something, that no one would do in the first place.

Hypothetical problem thats doesnt exist is not a problem.

Can you show one one place that has ever listed gallons in twentieths? No, because they wouldnt, gallons are always listed as quarters, eighths, or decimal.

sandorski your really grasping at straws with the stupid 7/20ths argument.

Train,

sandorski is Canadian, and one of the unfortunate problems he faces is that Canada uses a "partially" metric system compared to the rest of the world. Milk comes in jugs of 4 liters, some parts of countries use Fahrenheit, and some things like produce are in pounds or per 400g. IIRC, some places sell gasoline by the gallon as well. Hence he may have this disillusion that things work the same in the US as well and that's it's our fault for not having fully metricized so they can be put out of their misery.

 

[Sumguy]

Fail is Fail. You're saying a Volume of 2 7/20 Gallons is impossible? What's your point?

No, he is saying the measurement of 2 7/20 gallons is retarded, which it is.

For everyday use the imperial system is fine. I have no trouble visualizing a distance of 2 miles, or a table that is 3.5 feet tall. When I'm doing physics or some shit then I use metric for ease of conversion in math, but its harder for me to visualize something 1.23 meters tall.

Sure, I can easily tell its 123 centimeters tall, but really what benefit does that give me when its even harder for me to imagine something given in centimeters?


I'm not going to need to tell someone a distance in both feet and miles. If it can be rounded to "about a mile", its absurd to tell someone "oh, its about 5,280 feet away"

 

[Parasitic]

I agree with Bolded, but the rest of it doesn't really match up with the Bolded.

the unbolded you mean?

People in this thread seem to suggest that Americans are retarded and behind everyone else because we haven't fully metricized.

 

[Train]

Show me a container that you would read 7/20!!!

YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT DOESNT EXIST!!!![/QUOTE]


Moot point, Calculate.

No, its not a moot point, you are being dense and making yourself look like a complete moron.

I realize you will never cede this point, because 7/20th is something you would never read from a measuring cup (in any unit) This is a fact.

 

[sandorski]

Train,

sandorski is Canadian, and one of the unfortunate problems he faces is that Canada uses a "partially" metric system compared to the rest of the world. Milk comes in jugs of 4 liters, some parts of countries use Fahrenheit, and some things like produce are in pounds or per 400g. IIRC, some places sell gasoline by the gallon as well. Hence he may have this disillusion that things work the same in the US as well and that's it's our fault for not having fully metricized so they can be put out of their misery.

Not really correct. Some people still use the Imperial system in their personal LIves. Everything else is Metric, most Grocery Stores will also list Imperial measures with Produce/Meat/Bulk Products, but Metric measurements are always used.

 

[sandorski]

No, its not a moot point, you are being dense and making yourself look like a complete moron.

I realize you will never cede this point, because 7/20th is something you would never read from a measuring cup (in any unit) This is a fact.

You still are not Calculating. WTF dude?