The world versus 40 Republican Senators: climate change

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Genx87

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It's called surgically accurate. Sad that it's all correct.

It is called predictable and boring. Which is typical for your threads. When do you take your toys home? How many end up on your dont reply list? Your ego is hilarious to watch in action. Like anybody gives a fuck about your wishes they dont reply to your shitty topics.
 

Munky

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Downplay and divert? No, I admitted it! The guy who faked quotes in his 'OJ is guilty book' PROVES the case against OJ is all lies! Are you the one downplaying and diverting that logic?

But let's also note your new proof they're wrong!

You put the word pseudo in front of them, exposing that the REAL scientists are all on your side! Thanks for the important info you so well documented.

Only in your delusional mind... :rolleyes:
 

monovillage

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Wow, an issue without thousands of scientists involved has misdeed you can get reported to you, which are suddenly the proof the entire science is wrong. You want to stick with the idiocy and claim that?

Or do you want to back off the idiocy and realize there's ten thousand times the science of what you talked about you haven't dealt with, for whatever bad reason?

I found an author of one of the 100 books on the OJ trial claiming he's guilty made up some quotes. THat proves OJ was innocent!

What I posted was about the way that NCDC and GISS rigged and manipulated the data to get the results they wanted. Nothing more or less. If you want to give me a few of those 10,000 reasons then go ahead, we'll see who uses sound science and who uses propaganda and FUD.
 

Craig234

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It is called predictable and boring. Which is typical for your threads. When do you take your toys home? How many end up on your dont reply list? Your ego is hilarious to watch in action. Like anybody gives a fuck about your wishes they dont reply to your shitty topics.

I predicted you posting 10 more idiotic posts, and said not each would need a response pointing that out.

But this one still gets it. Idiot. I have your next idiotic posts to ignore still.
 

Craig234

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What I posted was about the way that NCDC and GISS rigged and manipulated the data to get the results they wanted. Nothing more or less. If you want to give me a few of those 10,000 reasons then go ahead, we'll see who uses sound science and who uses propaganda and FUD.

Why do you have zero nations' academy of sciences on your side on this?
 

Fern

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I don't understnad your post. The world says "we'll do our share". The US says "we'll piss on your leg and you tell you it's raining." The world says, no deal. You say, the US can't be blamed?

We've been reading different articles on what the 'world' is willing to do (or maybe you read lefty blogs?). I heard they wanted us to pay them a ton of money, not exactly "we'll do our share" IMO.

Fern
 

Craig234

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We've been reading different articles on what the 'world' is willing to do (or maybe you read lefty blogs?). I heard they wanted us to pay them a ton of money, not exactly "we'll do our share" IMO.

Fern

Read the article. Europe was willing to do more.
 

chucky2

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If the problem Craig is so slam dunk provable, and EU and others take it so seriously, then it doesn't matter if we keep on doing what we're doing, they'll take the steps regardless.

They won't though. They'll talk about doing it, they'll bash us for not bending to their will, but in the end, they'll give themselves backroom exceptions that won't make the public light, or the topic just won't be brought up, or, they'll have the typical Europeon delusion.

I agree that we should limit pollution whenever/wherever possible, and I make it a point to do so personally, however, committing large economic harm based on science so sound that it has to be manipulated and cannot be disclosed is not a rational basis for a national plan.

Chuck
 

Craig234

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If the problem Craig is so slam dunk provable, and EU and others take it so seriously, then it doesn't matter if we keep on doing what we're doing, they'll take the steps regardless.

Wrong. Read the article - and others and get informed why this needs a joint response, not unilateral.

They won't though. They'll talk about doing it, they'll bash us for not bending to their will, but in the end, they'll give themselves backroom exceptions that won't make the public light, or the topic just won't be brought up, or, they'll have the typical Europeon delusion.

That's a lot of gibberish, the bottom line is our 40 Republicans blocked the world's effort.

I agree that we should limit pollution whenever/wherever possible, and I make it a point to do so personally, however, committing large economic harm based on science so sound that it has to be manipulated and cannot be disclosed is not a rational basis for a national plan.

Chuck

That's nice you do, but it's nothing for dealing with the issue, unless you own many polluting industries.

I'll ask you the same question. If the science is as you say, why isn't one nation's academy of sciences agreeing with you?
 

Slew Foot

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Those 40 senators are the heroes. They stand united and are essentially the last line of defense to protect the US from liberal stupidity and idiot policies and legislation. I definitely don't like all those 40 senators, but if they stand united and do what they can to slow down this idiot train wreck, then I applaud them.

Come November, they'll get some reinforcements, and hopefully they can derail the Pelosi/Reid/Obama train that's driving towards ruin.

QFT, keep fighting the good fight.
 

chucky2

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Wrong. Read the article - and others and get informed why this needs a joint response, not unilateral.

I don't care what it "needs". If the issue is so glaring, so serious, then it matters not what the US is going to do, the rest of the world will act to, at minimum, stem the effect the entire world is allegedly having on the climate.

That's a lot of gibberish, the bottom line is our 40 Republicans blocked the world's effort.

The bottom line is that 40 Republicans voted they way they wanted to, the same as the 50whatever Dem's and the however many Independents. The rest of the world is voting as well, you can see how many took the lead and announced - despite what any other country would or would not do - what they would specifically be doing:

None.

That's nice you do, but it's nothing for dealing with the issue, unless you own many polluting industries.

I'll ask you the same question. If the science is as you say, why isn't one nation's academy of sciences agreeing with you?

Who knows Craig? Maybe because they love being in control? Maybe because they love being in the spotlight? Maybe because they love that neverending stream of funding they get, that they'd otherwise have to scrap for? Ask them why they had to cheat and lie, I for the life of my cannot understand why if the science was so pure, why any manipulation would ever be needed, or even considered.

Chuck
 

Munky

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Craig, 900: If the earth isn't flat, why aren't all the reputable scholars agreeing with you?

Craig, 1300: If the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, why aren't all the famous scientists agreeing with you?

Craig, 2006: If we are headed for an economic crisis, why aren't the top experts agreeing with you?
 

Craig234

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I don't care what it "needs". If the issue is so glaring, so serious, then it matters not what the US is going to do, the rest of the world will act to, at minimum, stem the effect the entire world is allegedly having on the climate.

See previous response. Every time you want to repeat this, the answer si the same, get informed.

The bottom line is that 40 Republicans voted they way they wanted to, the same as the 50whatever Dem's and the however many Independents.

Let's be clear what you're arguing here. Both sides are exactly the same, because they each voted. That's all that matters. A yes vote and a no vote are equal - the actual position has no relevance.

Is that the worst argument made here in a long time? Can't think of many worse.

The rest of the world is voting as well, you can see how many took the lead and announced - despite what any other country would or would not do - what they would specifically be doing:

None.

See above. Get informed. This is a *cooperative* issue.

Who knows Craig? Maybe because they love being in control? Maybe because they love being in the spotlight? Maybe because they love that neverending stream of funding they get, that they'd otherwise have to scrap for? Ask them why they had to cheat and lie, I for the life of my cannot understand why if the science was so pure, why any manipulation would ever be needed, or even considered.

Chuck

What quality arguments, removing any doubt the world's scientistds are all lyig about the issue for getting to be in control and the spotlight. Impeccable logic.

But maybe the stubborn people will still not buy the conclusion you make yet. Darn them.
 

Craig234

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Craig, 900: If the earth isn't flat, why aren't all the reputable scholars agreeing with you?

Craig, 1300: If the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, why aren't all the famous scientists agreeing with you?

Craig, 2006: If we are headed for an economic crisis, why aren't the top experts agreeing with you?

Idiot. Why, if a scientist got something wrong in primitive times, it disproves everything scientists say today!
 

shiner

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Idiot. Why, if a scientist got something wrong in primitive times, it disproves everything scientists say today!

Here's a cluepon McCraigwen234....the times we are currently living in will some day be considered primitive just like those past dates are.

You totally missed his point, or chose to ignore it because it doesn't agree with your worldview.

I may post some more later...but for now the kids are at their grandparent's house, I have some good whiskey to drink and a wife in an "entertaining: mood so I'm outta here.
 

Munky

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Idiot. Why, if a scientist got something wrong in primitive times, it disproves everything scientists say today!

No, it shows that the "experts" have been wrong before, and instead of weighing the evidence with an unbiased approach, you simply say "but but but... the experts!... Idiot... republicans... bush... religion... illiterate... righties..." Idiot...
 

Craig234

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No, it shows that the "experts" have been wrong before, and instead of weighing the evidence with an unbiased approach, you simply say "but but but... the experts!... Idiot... republicans... bush... religion... illiterate... righties..." Idiot...

Oh, so sorry you corrected my error.

The argument wasn't 'if a scientist got it wrong in primitive times, all sscience is wrong today'.

It was 'a so-called exert was wrong in primitive times, so all science is wrong today.'

Idiot.
 

Craig234

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Here's a cluepon McCraigwen234....the times we are currently living in will some day be considered primitive just like those past dates are.

You totally missed his point, or chose to ignore it because it doesn't agree with your worldview.

I may post some more later...but for now the kids are at their grandparent's house, I have some good whiskey to drink and a wife in an "entertaining: mood so I'm outta here.

So if you repeat the 'because a scientist got something wrong in ancient times, all science is wrong today' argument again, it gets less idiotic.
 

monovillage

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Why do you have zero nations' academy of sciences on your side on this?

WOW ! That's #1 of your 10,000 reasons? It's not sound science to judge the accuracy of hypothesis by looking at who agrees with it. I really need the science, not the propaganda or the FUD.
 

Fern

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-snip-

That's a lot of gibberish, the bottom line is our 40 Republicans blocked the world's effort.

face/palm

Oh for heaven's sake the Senate hasn't even brought the Boxer/Kerry Bill to the floor for a vote.

By most accounts the bill isn't even ready, they slammed something through committee to look good for Copenhagen. My bet is that bill, in it's current 'slap-dash' condition,will never make it to a vote.

Also, by most accounts there are NOT even 50 votes in the Senate for a cap-n-trade bill.

The author of your linked article is another lefty who thinks the USA should pay huge sums of money to other countries for MMGW, to whine about how the rest of world is ready to sacrifice for MMGW is dishonest. It ain't a sacrifice to accept billions from Europe and the USA. And IIRC, they want the money but refused to accept verification that the funds were used for their intended purpose. What BS.

Fern
 

Craig234

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face/palm

Oh for heaven's sake the Senate hasn't even brought the Boxer/Kerry Bill to the floor for a vote.

By most accounts the bill isn't even ready, they slammed something through committee to look good for Copenhagen. My bet is that bill, in it's current 'slap-dash' condition,will never make it to a vote.

Also, by most accounts there are NOT even 50 votes in the Senate for a cap-n-trade bill.

The author of your linked article is another lefty who thinks the USA should pay huge sums of money to other countries for MMGW, to whine about how the rest of world is ready to sacrifice for MMGW is dishonest. It ain't a sacrifice to accept billions from Europe and the USA. And IIRC, they want the money but refused to accept verification that the funds were used for their intended purpose. What BS.

Fern

Have you read the article before you post wrong things? I won't refer to the article in a reply if you don't know what I'm talking about.