The Walking Dead Season 7 discussion thread (season starts 10/23/16) - get ready for Negan!

[Imp]

Cheap manpower? They've spent a lot of time building up the Saviors as being a huge unstoppable force like the Star Wars Empire or even worse, Apple. The main group, Hilltop, the Kingdom and that lesbian group didn't seem all that daunting even when united. Toss in a couple of new groups that nobody really cares about in the long run, use them to pad out the numbers and then kill them off in the big battle.

With how the actual group is represented in the show, it looks like they could wipe out most of the battle-ready Saviors by blowing up their transports in the middle of nowhere -- they travel in like 3 or 4 Budget-sized moving trucks. They did just recover a ton of explosives.

 

[Kaido]

Had the opportunity to meet some of TWD cast at TerrorCon today. It wasn't crazy crowded, so we got to spend some quality time chatting with everyone we saw because there were only a few people in line & they weren't rushing us through (unlike ComicCon, where there's like 300 people in line & you barely get to say hi, haha), which was really awesome. Abraham was our favorite, extremely nice guy, totally down-to-earth. He really made our day.

King Ezekiel is a very high-energy guy, extremely personable & friendly. You can tell he really enjoys acting & enjoys the panels and the fans, he's super into it. If there was ever a guy who really loved what he does, it was this guy. They actually made him shave his head for the role so he could wear the dreads wig. Father Gabriel is a lot more soft-spoken but can be pretty funny too, and comes across as a very intelligent guy.

It's really fun to see how actors are IRL vs. their on-screen characters because there are some people who project certain aspects of their personality into their roles & when you meet them, you can kind of see where they're coming from. Like Khary Payton is a very outgoing person & I can see how he hams that up for his role as "king" in the show. He also voices Cyborg in Teen Titans Go! & some other shows.

We got to meet some other non-TWD people too, like Chris Sarandon (Prince Humperdinck from The Princess Bride), which was awesome; he was a lot more serious in-person & I could see how that worked for his role in The Princess Bride. I also had no idea he voiced Jack in the Nightmare Before Christmas! David Ellefson from Megadeth was there too. Pic from his FB page getting an autograph from Ezekiel:

Overall, the crowd was a lot different than I expected. My wife is a huge horror nerd so this was her Con, I haven't been to a TerrorCon before. Not a lot of gothic-type people floating around, surprisingly. Not even much cosplay going on. Hardly any rabid fanboys either. Mostly it was a lot of people who were fans of certain shows & wanted to see the actors in the panels & stuff. It was actually a lot more relaxing than other venues...not insanely crowded, not a lot of craziness going on, etc. And of course it was really nice to spend some time talking shop with people from different shows, which is unusual because at the bigger cons you don't even get to speak to some of the people you get photo ops with, so that was probably the highlight for me.

TL;DR: I got to meet Abraham today, it was an awesome day.

 

[Younigue]

Yay! A Walking Dead thread! Love this show. Kind of obsessed actually.

 

[Younigue]

The only episodes I really disliked throughout its seven season run were the Governor ones, the Beth/Hospital ones (until the rescue one, that's a gut wrencher) and the Morgan one. Other than that I think the show is fantastic!

I suspend reality (as one must) to watch a zombie series so I run with that and don't pick it apart for technical or graphical missteps. The acting is fantastic. I love character development and never refer to any of the episodes as"filler" episodes. Looking forward to the showdown! Do not enjoy The Scavengers. King Ezekiel and the Kingdom gets my love. The Kingdom is where I want to get the quirkiness from, not the new Sedated Crew.

Any way, any one who doesn't love the show as much as me is wrong.

 

[pontifex]

They Might Be Giants!

The girl escorting Eugene is the same actress who plays the daughter of the surfer SEAL in Six.

 

[Cappuccino]

I swear this season is the weakest season.

 

[Jeeebus]

Why are the prossies acting like prossies? I thought they are forced to do it and us the viewers think that too? Why are they enjoying sucking dick? Why are they depressed that Eugine refused to have coitus with them? I swear this season is the weakest season.

You're apparently watching a different show than we are. First of all, not sure "we signed up for it" means they enjoy sucking dick or whatever else "prossies" (first I've ever heard that) enjoy doing. If the choice is be one of Negan's wives or live as a slave, they didn't have all that much of a choice. Second, you apparently fell asleep when it was revealed the whole thing was to get Eugene to make the pills for them so they could kill Negan. Maybe... just maybe... using your detective skills you could reason that they were being friendly/touching Eugene's leg in an effort to get him to make the pills for them (as opposed to being upset that Eugene didn't want sex)?

I feel like some people who watch this show need a yellow Walking Dead for Dummies book. This show isn't really all that deep/complicated so I'm not sure why some people can't seem to follow along.

Overall I wasn't a fan of the episode (but I'm not really a fan of any Negan-centric episode). We've already established Negan as a bad guy who we should hate. Him throwing a doctor in fire isn't shocking us or making us think any less of him. I'd rather see more of Rick uniting groups and the plan to topple Negan come together. Negan being a horrible person is been there done that by now.

 

[Cappuccino]

You're apparently watching a different show than we are. First of all, not sure "we signed up for it" means they enjoy sucking dick or whatever else "prossies" (first I've ever heard that) enjoy doing. If the choice is be one of Negan's wives or live as a slave, they didn't have all that much of a choice. Second, you apparently fell asleep when it was revealed the whole thing was to get Eugene to make the pills for them so they could kill Negan. Maybe... just maybe... using your detective skills you could reason that they were being friendly/touching Eugene's leg in an effort to get him to make the pills for them (as opposed to being upset that Eugene didn't want sex)?

I feel like some people who watch this show need a yellow Walking Dead for Dummies book. This show isn't really all that deep/complicated so I'm not sure why some people can't seem to follow along.

Overall I wasn't a fan of the episode (but I'm not really a fan of any Negan-centric episode). We've already established Negan as a bad guy who we should hate. Him throwing a doctor in fire isn't shocking us or making us think any less of him. I'd rather see more of Rick uniting groups and the plan to topple Negan come together. Negan being a horrible person is been there done that by now.

yes my bad i didnt watch the rest because I turned it off then you said and i watched the rest https://i.imgur.com/vzHA2Ng.png
btw the show is easy to follow and the comic is better just saying

 

[Skel]

I swear this season is the weakest season.

Did you edit your entire post? if so.. why?

 

[Charmonium]

There were some weak spots in the story but you write that off to the naivete of the characters. For example the ruse of the depressed friend wasn't really a very good one if you're trying to find a poison that you're going to slip into someone's drink or food. In that case you might want to know if it's bitter or otherwise has a strong flavor. Cyanide, which is what I think he was trying to extract from the peach pits, can be detected by smell.

And maybe this is just my sexist male orientation, but given the alternatives in this particular universe, being a Negan "wife" doesn't seem like such a bad deal. I mean given the size of his harem, how many times per year do they really need to bend over for him? Maybe a couple of times per month assuming that he's got to get some every . . . f***ing . . . day. Sure it's not the most pleasant thing to do, but look at your options.

 

[Banana]

*cut* Second, you apparently fell asleep when it was revealed the whole thing was to get Eugene to make the pills for them so they could kill Negan. Maybe... just maybe... using your detective skills you could reason that they were being friendly/touching Eugene's leg in an effort to get him to make the pills for them (as opposed to being upset that Eugene didn't want sex)?

Was the pill scheme actually Negan testing Eugene? Negan figured that Eugene would realize that the pills were to assassinate Negan - So would Eugene go along with the plan? Or is that too convoluted?

And maybe this is just my sexist male orientation, but given the alternatives in this particular universe, being a Negan "wife" doesn't seem like such a bad deal. I mean given the size of his harem, how many times per year do they really need to bend over for him? Maybe a couple of times per month assuming that he's got to get some every . . . f***ing . . . day. Sure it's not the most pleasant thing to do, but look at your options.

The slavery is both psychological subjugation, which is continuous, and occasionally - physical battery. Compared to the menial slaves in the compound, the "wives" have more creature comforts, but no less mental suffering.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Could have went either way really. I liked the episode. I like Negan. He's what this show was missing...someone with a personality. Everyone else at this point is just brooding and beaten down and well..boring.

There was one line he gave that I just loved while they were out in the yard discussing what to do with the wall walkers.

I will say though that there are so many opportunities for his people to turn on him, yet it doesn't happen.

 

[Skel]

There were some weak spots in the story but you write that off to the naivete of the characters. For example the ruse of the depressed friend wasn't really a very good one if you're trying to find a poison that you're going to slip into someone's drink or food. In that case you might want to know if it's bitter or otherwise has a strong flavor. Cyanide, which is what I think he was trying to extract from the peach pits, can be detected by smell.

And maybe this is just my sexist male orientation, but given the alternatives in this particular universe, being a Negan "wife" doesn't seem like such a bad deal. I mean given the size of his harem, how many times per year do they really need to bend over for him? Maybe a couple of times per month assuming that he's got to get some every . . . f***ing . . . day. Sure it's not the most pleasant thing to do, but look at your options.

Even not knowing what else they have to endure, the idea that they're basically being forced into prostitution is beyond fucked up. It's one thing if they willingly trade sex for comfort, but these women aren't even given that option. I'm honestly not sure how people could see this as anything but completely fucked up.

 

[Cappuccino]

Did you edit your entire post? if so.. why?

i had to all the stuff i said was fake because i stopped watching when eugene played with the fire works. Then someone said countinue watching

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Was the pill scheme actually Negan testing Eugene? Negan figured that Eugene would realize that the pills were to assassinate Negan - So would Eugene go along with the plan? Or is that too convoluted?

And is Eugene a double agent? Has he been co-opted by a jar of pickles and is he really one of Negan's dudes or is he sucking up to Negan to gain confidence and bring the thing down from the inside? Did he have plans to gain confidence to bring it down and now he's enjoying his status and perks so that he'll flip-flop and actually turn for real? Eugene was a shitty character and for a while I forgot he was still alive, but one good episode and suddenly he's interesting.

 

[Cappuccino]

Had the opportunity to meet some of TWD cast at TerrorCon today. It wasn't crazy crowded, so we got to spend some quality time chatting with everyone we saw because there were only a few people in line & they weren't rushing us through (unlike ComicCon, where there's like 300 people in line & you barely get to say hi, haha), which was really awesome. Abraham was our favorite, extremely nice guy, totally down-to-earth. He really made our day.

King Ezekiel is a very high-energy guy, extremely personable & friendly. You can tell he really enjoys acting & enjoys the panels and the fans, he's super into it. If there was ever a guy who really loved what he does, it was this guy. They actually made him shave his head for the role so he could wear the dreads wig. Father Gabriel is a lot more soft-spoken but can be pretty funny too, and comes across as a very intelligent guy.

It's really fun to see how actors are IRL vs. their on-screen characters because there are some people who project certain aspects of their personality into their roles & when you meet them, you can kind of see where they're coming from. Like Khary Payton is a very outgoing person & I can see how he hams that up for his role as "king" in the show. He also voices Cyborg in Teen Titans Go! & some other shows.

We got to meet some other non-TWD people too, like Chris Sarandon (Prince Humperdinck from The Princess Bride), which was awesome; he was a lot more serious in-person & I could see how that worked for his role in The Princess Bride. I also had no idea he voiced Jack in the Nightmare Before Christmas! David Ellefson from Megadeth was there too. Pic from his FB page getting an autograph from Ezekiel:

Overall, the crowd was a lot different than I expected. My wife is a huge horror nerd so this was her Con, I haven't been to a TerrorCon before. Not a lot of gothic-type people floating around, surprisingly. Not even much cosplay going on. Hardly any rabid fanboys either. Mostly it was a lot of people who were fans of certain shows & wanted to see the actors in the panels & stuff. It was actually a lot more relaxing than other venues...not insanely crowded, not a lot of craziness going on, etc. And of course it was really nice to spend some time talking shop with people from different shows, which is unusual because at the bigger cons you don't even get to speak to some of the people you get photo ops with, so that was probably the highlight for me.

TL;DR: I got to meet Abraham today, it was an awesome day.

let me say this before someone else does.

'My wife is a huge horror nerd so this was her Con'
Pics of wife?

You happy now AT perverts?

 

[gorcorps]

Finally another Negan episode. It was starting to drag

 

[ultimatebob]

OK, I'm not sure what to make of the garbage people. That was kinda weird.

 

[Cappuccino]

Can someone tell me wtf is a cat? 'we keep the cat' they have kittens now? Gun name?

 

[Cappuccino]

OK, I'm not sure what to make of the garbage people. That was kinda weird.

The women remind me of Milla jovovich from resident evil she is hot.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Can someone tell me wtf is a cat? 'we keep the cat' they have kittens now? Gun name?

It's a wire sculpture of a cat, Rick stole it the last time they met the junk people. Carl and Michone bonded over some gaudy papier mache cat in one of the early seasons, so maybe Rick thought it would be a cute present for them.

 

[pontifex]

Can someone tell me wtf is a cat? 'we keep the cat' they have kittens now? Gun name?

Rick took a cat statue from the garbage people when they left after the first meeting

 

[Cappuccino]

It's a wire sculpture of a cat, Rick stole it the last time they met the junk people. Carl and Michone bonded over some gaudy papier mache cat in one of the early seasons, so maybe Rick thought it would be a cute present for them.

wow I can't even remember that scene lol.

 

[Ackmed]

The women remind me of Milla jovovich from resident evil she is hot.

Shut your mouth with that nonsense. She's got nothing on Milla. She's very unattractive.

About the episode. I found myself getting very annoyed. No brakes, rebar? Seriously? So many things happened that were so predictable, and stupid. Hopefully better next week. Setting up for a good final battle, I'm sure they'll drag it out, add a dash of stupidity into it.

 

[Younigue]

I enjoyed this episode. Until the Scavengers! Nose wrinkle, can't stand them.