The Walking Dead Season 7 discussion thread (season starts 10/23/16) - get ready for Negan!

[thebestMAX]

The women remind me of Milla jovovich from resident evil she is hot.

Yeah, she is one of those women who are hot without being good looking.
She cleans up well. She looked a lot better on "Talking Dead"

 

[Cappuccino]

Shut your mouth with that nonsense. She's got nothing on Milla. She's very unattractive.

About the episode. I found myself getting very annoyed. No brakes, rebar? Seriously? So many things happened that were so predictable, and stupid. Hopefully better next week. Setting up for a good final battle, I'm sure they'll drag it out, add a dash of stupidity into it.

LOOOL. She is unattractive yes but she is hot somehow. I find her pretty and hot.

 

[ultimatebob]

I liked the carnival get up. Reminded me of Zombieland!

 

[Stephanie Fernandez]

I'm personally inspired with the outfit of Negan..

 

[Skel]

I can't help but feel the show has drifted from it's original concept.. as far as I remember it to be, The Walking Dead referred to the people, as humanity was done. These last holdouts were just trying to survive and pull out a few more days. Now the zombies are mostly background and it's morphed into a poor man's version of GoT. It really feels that humanity isn't done for as we now have a few flavors of society. Now the bad is who's more fucked up than who.

 

[ctbaars]

Great show for the water cooler Monday morning break. Really like the multiple plot lines and timing.

 

[ultimatebob]

This show has become formulaic... in this episode, we're going to try to get you to like yet another minor character and then have the Saviors kill them off just to make sure that you continue to hate them.

Sorry, but it's not working anymore. They played that card too many times this season.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I can't help but feel the show has drifted from it's original concept.. as far as I remember it to be, The Walking Dead referred to the people, as humanity was done. These last holdouts were just trying to survive and pull out a few more days. Now the zombies are mostly background and it's morphed into a poor man's version of GoT. It really feels that humanity isn't done for as we now have a few flavors of society. Now the bad is who's more fucked up than who.

Ummm, what planet are you living on? Pretty much every post-apocalyptic book, movie or series evolves from the man-vs-nature struggle to survive to the man-vs-man fight for dominance. That's human nature and human history. And that's the way it has to be to keep the story interesting. Zombies are not all that great an enemy. They're slow, stupid and relatively easily managed once the survivors gain a little savvy in how to protect themselves. The story has to move on and pit the survivors against a more cunning and ruthless enemy: other survivors.

Christ, if TWD had ever truly been about man-vs-zombie and remained that way for more than a couple of episodes it would have run out steam and been cancelled. It has to be this way. In fact this is the original concept. This is based on a comic book series in which humans are the biggest threat, the entire series is based around human bad guys, the zombies are just window dressing. The issue isn't that it's become man-vs-man, it's that they're doing it badly. The bad guys are cartoon characters and the story lines go nowhere. That's what's killing the series.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Difference in taste really. This season is way more enjoyable than anything recently IMO. This show has never been THAT entertaining. They've always somehow managed to keep it just interesting to keep people coming back. The problem with TV though is once you start killing off characters that you spent years building up that people liked, and then replacing them with less interesting characters, people will tend to lose interest quickly because they assume you are just going to kill those characters off too.

Another great example of this was Misfits. The original cast was AMAZING, but (spolier) once they started dying off and replaced with new people it just wasn't the same.

 

[Charmonium]

The show really does need some sort of overarching animus. The recurring theme of authoritarian figures like The Governor and Negan can only be done so many times before it feels worn. Sure, you can add different personalities and circumstances to change the flavor but it's still basic story gruel that you're being fed. There's no long-term arc that the plot is following.

That's one of the things that made Battlestar a hit. You had the same sorts of conflict and struggle but the story had a direction and a goal - finding earth. The story evolved around the events that transpired in the furtherance of that goal.

TWD doesn't have that so it feels like the story just meanders with the same recurring themes.

 

[Cappuccino]

The show really does need some sort of overarching animus. The recurring theme of authoritarian figures like The Governor and Negan can only be done so many times before it feels worn. Sure, you can add different personalities and circumstances to change the flavor but it's still basic story gruel that you're being fed. There's no long-term arc that the plot is following.

That's one of the things that made Battlestar a hit. You had the same sorts of conflict and struggle but the story had a direction and a goal - finding earth. The story evolved around the events that transpired in the furtherance of that goal.

TWD doesn't have that so it feels like the story just meanders with the same recurring themes.

Gov - dead
Neg - Soon
New Villian - tm
The show is getting worse and un realistic. redacted




That slur is not allowed here.


esquared
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[OutHouse]

ok im really getting tired of just getting in cars that have been sitting for 6-7 years and they start. and yanking wires from under the steering wheel and touching them and the car starts.... Hollywood please stop that shit.

 

[Skel]

Ummm, what planet are you living on? Pretty much every post-apocalyptic book, movie or series evolves from the man-vs-nature struggle to survive to the man-vs-man fight for dominance. That's human nature and human history. And that's the way it has to be to keep the story interesting. Zombies are not all that great an enemy. They're slow, stupid and relatively easily managed once the survivors gain a little savvy in how to protect themselves. The story has to move on and pit the survivors against a more cunning and ruthless enemy: other survivors.

Christ, if TWD had ever truly been about man-vs-zombie and remained that way for more than a couple of episodes it would have run out steam and been cancelled. It has to be this way. In fact this is the original concept. This is based on a comic book series in which humans are the biggest threat, the entire series is based around human bad guys, the zombies are just window dressing. The issue isn't that it's become man-vs-man, it's that they're doing it badly. The bad guys are cartoon characters and the story lines go nowhere. That's what's killing the series.

I'm not sure I agree with you on the comics.. I'll have to go dig it up, but I do remember reading Kirkman say that the Walking dead was referring to the humans. They were dead people walking and weren't going to rebuild the world let alone be "the biggest threat". It may have evolved into that, as the book suffers from the same issue the show does... it's a concept that doesn't work when it ends up going on way too long. Zombies don't work long term, and even attempting to mix it up with man vs man, it's still going to get stale quickly. There's only so many times you can do the man vs man. I see the problem being the show either needs to go into resolution territory (which would involve them curing the zombies, or at the least building up a community past the rag tag groups we have) but that only works if the shows ending. Otherwise you're just running the treadmill and at that point it doesn't matter if it's man vs zombies, or man vs man.. it's the same crap over and over again. The bad guys have become "Cartoon characters" because the only way for anyone to care is to one up the last bad guy. Otherwise, there's little tension as everyone will go, "yeah, Negan's bad, but they faced the Gov, so they'll be OK".

I still say, the show was way more interesting when they were on the run, dying. The moment they drop roots, the treadmill beings and people start getting bored. Look at all the other threads on this show and you'll see the pattern.

 

[clamum]

I liked that Maggie was featured often in last night's episode. Rosita and Sasha are nice too.

Spoiler

Not surprising what Sasha did though; she's had a death-wish since Tyrese died. I wanna see what happened though, from her POV!

However I wanted to see Coral's beautiful mane and I was disappointed. He just needs to grow some huge fuckin mutton chops too. And a big ol' stache; man he'd be fucking harsh then.

 

[Skel]

I liked that Maggie was featured often in last night's episode. Rosita and Sasha are nice too.

Spoiler

Not surprising what Sasha did though; she's had a death-wish since Tyrese died. I wanna see what happened though, from her POV!

However I wanted to see Coral's beautiful mane and I was disappointed. He just needs to grow some huge fuckin mutton chops too. And a big ol' stache; man he'd be fucking harsh then.

To your spoiler. You will.. in fact you'll probably get the entire day with a special focus on her preparing lunch and how much she liked it.

 

[gorcorps]

The show really does need some sort of overarching animus. The recurring theme of authoritarian figures like The Governor and Negan can only be done so many times before it feels worn. Sure, you can add different personalities and circumstances to change the flavor but it's still basic story gruel that you're being fed. There's no long-term arc that the plot is following.

That's one of the things that made Battlestar a hit. You had the same sorts of conflict and struggle but the story had a direction and a goal - finding earth. The story evolved around the events that transpired in the furtherance of that goal.

TWD doesn't have that so it feels like the story just meanders with the same recurring themes.

There at least was an over-arching theme of trying to find a cure when Eugene was introduced, but once he admitted he was full of it there wasn't an end goal left.

Honestly I think the current goal is keeping Maggie alive to have that baby, otherwise Glenn doesn't live on. They barely spend any time with her though so it's easy to forget.

 

[Cappuccino]

Jesus confirmed gay my life is over!!!!

 

[ImpulsE69]

ok im really getting tired of just getting in cars that have been sitting for 6-7 years and they start. and yanking wires from under the steering wheel and touching them and the car starts.... Hollywood please stop that shit.

i think its only been 4 years, but yea i was thinking the same thing watching that

 

[ImpulsE69]

Jesus confirmed gay my life is over!!!!

he was gay in the comics

 

[Cappuccino]

he was gay in the comics

real life too

 

[luv2liv]

i thought Jesus was a spy for Neagan, looks like the old man is the spy now.

 

[TwiceOver]

Yawn. Another 45 minute nap.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

i thought Jesus was a spy for Neagan, looks like the old man is the spy now.

AFAIK Jesus has never had any relationship with Negan. He's a soldier, forager, tracker and recruiter for Hilltop.

Yawn. Another 45 minute nap.

Yep, another filler episode.

 

[Cappuccino]

Yawn. Another 45 minute nap.

They are milking the series now. Won't surprise me if it takes another 2 seasons to see Negan dead.

 

[Skel]

ok im really getting tired of just getting in cars that have been sitting for 6-7 years and they start. and yanking wires from under the steering wheel and touching them and the car starts.... Hollywood please stop that shit.

I was amused on how they were concerned about getting gas in the water bottle to make sure the car they got started had enough gas, then just used it to start a fire. It was really lucky the car they picked had gas after all. Not sure they could have checked it before hand.