The Unofficial Memory Foam/Visco Elastic/NASA Pillow Thread

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First of all, this is my first experience with any kind of visco sleeping material. I've never tried tempurpedic anything.

Well, I've slept on my 3" sensus for 2 nights now, and have mixed opinions. Since this was a pillow thread, I'll start by saying the sensus pillow that I purchased with it is not terribly comfortable. The curves are not quite right, and while it is indeed as fluffy as a marshmallow, it nonetheless is hard at the same time: the weight of my head seems evenly distributed and sinks into it nicely(back of skull is cupped when laying on back), but there is an uncomfortable feeling of tight pressure all across the area. Even on the "small" side of the pillow, I feel it has too much height, which raises my shoulders, adding additional weight to my head. Perhaps it would work well with a firm non-visco bed, but the combination of my ass sinking into mattress and head not sinking enough, I'm thinking I may cut it down and see how that works.

As far as the mattress goes, I am happy with my purchase (3" queen topper). It's a bit industrial, as someone else mentioned, but the smell goes away in a couple days, and as far as appearance goes, I was purchasing a "dirt cheap" mattress direct from a factory that also manufactures acoustic foam and automotive padding, so I'm not disappointed on that level. That's why they have mattress pads and sheets.

I have always been an extremely sound sleeper. I set 7 alarms in the morning, and I honestly believe that if there was a fire, I would either sleep right through it, or wake up, see smoke and flames, and roll over and go back to sleep. My mattress is a nice serta something or other, and while it's getting on in years, it probably would be fine for a couple more, but I intend on moving soon, and I thought it would be easier to move a 3" pad that I can roll up and purchase a foam base when I arrive on the other side than lug around a Q size mattress and boxspring. Additionally, if I end up in cramped NY, I can resize my Q to a full with a ginsu knife if need be :)

The bed is comfortable, although I seem to take longer to fall asleep because I'm thinking too hard about how comfortable it is...

I must admit that while it is comfortable, my initial reaction was "that's it? this is nothing groundbreaking", but I did notice one interesting thing, which is that you can't hit it in an uncomfortable way. No matter how you flop on it, it's comfortable enough that you won't mind staying in that position indefinitely (unless you flop in such a way that your head ends up on the sensus pillow, in which case you struggle for 15 minutes until you realize that the bed is perfectly comfortable without a pillow).

I can't compare with tempur-pedic, although if I get a chance I'll post the results. I'll also try sleeping with the topper just on the boxspring and see what that does (I think I might be sinking just a little too far).
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Considering the price is about what a cheap sprung mattress costs though, I figure I'm ahead of the game even if it doesn't quite match up to tempur-pedic (and besides, I wasn't going to drop $1200 on a bed anyway)
 

Busie23

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I'm not sure it was covered or not but Foambymail gets their stuff from Foamex. Here is a PDF of their Sensus line of products.

I could have swore that foambymail was manufacturing their own stuff? Probably from their claims about making the custom made sizes?

I'm looking at getting a new bed and am trying to decide between memory foam, latex, and a regular bed.
 

SpotDancer

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Originally posted by: Busie23
I'm not sure it was covered or not but Foambymail gets their stuff from Foamex. Here is a PDF of their Sensus line of products.

I could have swore that foambymail was manufacturing their own stuff? Probably from their claims about making the custom made sizes?

I'm looking at getting a new bed and am trying to decide between memory foam, latex, and a regular bed.

Sensus foam has a patent on the process, so anyone selling it must buy it from Foamex - unless of course they are allowed to manufacture it by Foamex. I have not seen any other company that "manufactures" Sensus other than Foamex.

As far as getting a new bed, you should definitely compare the different types of foam you are interested in (Latex, memory). If you go back a few pages in this thread you will see that others (Sesopedalian) "created" their own bed by purchasing a thick piece of low density foam, and topping it off with the Sensus memory foam pads. This is what most manufactures of this type of bed do, including Tempurpedic. You can save a ton of money if you get the foam base and some memory foam pads thereby creating your own mattress. And the consensus around here is that memory foam is the way to go - but, you will have to decide that for yourself.

 

minerat

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I'm liking the sensus memory foam pillow a lot more after having more time with it. I'm sleeping with my head right on the large hump. I can see an imprint of my ear for a couple seconds when I lift my head; the pillow is plenty soft. It IS uncomfortable to try and fit all of the high side between my jaw and shoulder when sleeping on my side, but putting the side of my face and neck on the high side works well - i'm getting plenty of support out of it. Liking it a lot more.

Buy SENSUS - especially for a pad.
 

whovous

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I am still sleeping with two stacked Sensuses (Sensi?), and am liking them more, as well. Who knows, but someday I may even make it down to just one pillow at a time.
 

Busie23

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Originally posted by: SpotDancer
Originally posted by: Busie23
I'm not sure it was covered or not but Foambymail gets their stuff from Foamex. Here is a PDF of their Sensus line of products.

I could have swore that foambymail was manufacturing their own stuff? Probably from their claims about making the custom made sizes?

I'm looking at getting a new bed and am trying to decide between memory foam, latex, and a regular bed.

Sensus foam has a patent on the process, so anyone selling it must buy it from Foamex - unless of course they are allowed to manufacture it by Foamex. I have not seen any other company that "manufactures" Sensus other than Foamex.

As far as getting a new bed, you should definitely compare the different types of foam you are interested in (Latex, memory). If you go back a few pages in this thread you will see that others (Sesopedalian) "created" their own bed by purchasing a thick piece of low density foam, and topping it off with the Sensus memory foam pads. This is what most manufactures of this type of bed do, including Tempurpedic. You can save a ton of money if you get the foam base and some memory foam pads thereby creating your own mattress. And the consensus around here is that memory foam is the way to go - but, you will have to decide that for yourself.


I figured out that I'm going to buy a queen size firm Serta mattress set from Samsclub. It is $349 for the box spring and mattress. Then I will get 4" of sensus topper along with their pillows.

My reasoning for this is that my back seems to feel better when I sleep on a more firm surface, so I will have a nice named brand new mattress set for $349 if I don't like the sensus topper.

Who else has a setup like this and what are your opinions on it? I'm also a little concerned about the sheets? A regular queen set will fit on a mattress just fine but what about a mattress and 4" of topper? What is the general recommendation here?

 

SpotDancer

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A brandy-new box spring and mattress set is the perfect foundation for the Sensus memory foam mattress pads. Old mattresses with sags in them cause a lot of problems for the memory foam as it will also sag into the sag. You know what I am saging......er, saying?

As far as the sheets for the mattress and foam topper, there are plenty of sheets that are made for large, thick mattresses. Just make sure you get one that will fit both the mattress and the topper, which should not be a problem.

The very best of luck with your new setup!

Keep in mind that you can probably buy two 5.3lb density 2" Sensus toppers and save money over buying one 4" topper. And, dont worry that they might slip - they are like velcro when laid on top of each other. I am sure if you buy two of the 2" toppers and ask foambymail for a break on the shipping of the second topper, they will probably give you half off the shipping on the 2d topper if you decide to go this way.
 

Busie23

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Originally posted by: SpotDancer
A brandy-new box spring and mattress set is the perfect foundation for the Sensus memory foam mattress pads. Old mattresses with sags in them cause a lot of problems for the memory foam as it will also sag into the sag. You know what I am saging......er, saying?

As far as the sheets for the mattress and foam topper, there are plenty of sheets that are made for large, thick mattresses. Just make sure you get one that will fit both the mattress and the topper, which should not be a problem.

The very best of luck with your new setup!

Keep in mind that you can probably buy two 5.3lb density 2" Sensus toppers and save money over buying one 4" topper. And, dont worry that they might slip - they are like velcro when laid on top of each other. I am sure if you buy two of the 2" toppers and ask foambymail for a break on the shipping of the second topper, they will probably give you half off the shipping on the 2d topper if you decide to go this way.


Thanks for the help SpotDancer. I have been reading this thread since it was started in anticipation of getting a new setup, and now I will finally have it. Looks like I will order two of the 2" 5.3lb toppers and two similar pillows tomorrow. I can't wait to try this thing out!
 

kagi

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I've been following this thread because I'm interested in getting a new Sensus Memory Foam Mattress. I found a Cal-King on E@ay for $525 plus shipping; however, they only ship to anyone in the Southern CA area. Since I'm from Northern CA, I would have to look for an alternate shipping source to purchase this mattress.

Does anyone have any experience or opinions about this mattress? It seems like a good deal compared to the other mattresses that are mentioned in this thread because it is much thicker and looks more like a regular mattress.

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Amirtallica

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Smartbargains.com has 2 different kind of visco elastic memory foam pillows, one is going for $25 and the other has a down cover and goes for $5 more. Anybody have any experience with these two or have any free shipping coupons?
 

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I bought a PillowPedic Queen size for $45 shipped from pillowpedic.com a month ago and I've been really happy with it ever since.

The cover is kind of cheap (and Atrac warns that it shouldn't be machine washed), but the pillow itself feels very nice.

I'm a back/side sleeper and usually use the flat side.
 

Amirtallica

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I also bought the Nova form from Costco and so far it's been very good. From my experience it's only flaw it that it's slightly stiffer than the tempur-pedic pillow. The price is 4 times less so I am definately very impressed. It comes with an extra cover too, and the covers are really nice.
 

ep12582

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Can I get a rundown of the top 5-10 Best Memory foam pillows? I'm currently looking at the tempur-pedic comfort pillow, but it seems very thin (unless I'm blind) has anyone used this pillow? I'm so confused as to which pillow I should get. Thanks.

By the way, I've been trying to find "The Perfect Pillow" by clicking all of the links that originate from linens and things, and it no longer exists.. what gives?
 

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Originally posted by: minerat
I'm liking the sensus memory foam pillow a lot more after having more time with it. I'm sleeping with my head right on the large hump. I can see an imprint of my ear for a couple seconds when I lift my head; the pillow is plenty soft. It IS uncomfortable to try and fit all of the high side between my jaw and shoulder when sleeping on my side, but putting the side of my face and neck on the high side works well - i'm getting plenty of support out of it. Liking it a lot more.

Buy SENSUS - especially for a pad.

i got two sensus pillows from ebay. i'd like to say theyre soft and i love them ... but they're not. theyre a lot firmer than i thought they'd be. not sure how it measures up to the brookstone tempurpedic pillows because i haven't been to brookstone lately but i remember those being really soft.
 

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I had a chance to try out the tempurpedic beds and pillows, and the tempur material is definitely more soft/luxurious. I didn't think that the material deflected/indented any more than the sensus material however (and possibly less?).

I'm no engineer, but from the strictly subjective experience of laying on the two, I'd hazard a guess that there is more to a visco foam than ILD and density. ILD only measures pressure to a certain deflection (I think it was 1/4 the depth of the material). It seems reasonable that two foams could behave comparably at that point, yet have different characteristics at a different deflection (say 1/2 or 3/4 compression). Not to mention, iirc, ILD (or the definition I read somewhere) doesn't have a standard depth. I must be wrong about that, because that would make the measurement meaningless - you'd end up with different numbers just based on the thickness of foam.

Also I am currently sleeping on the 3" Q sensus directly on my boxspring. The bed is much firmer, and it is now possible to lie in such a way as to be uncomfortable, but the pillow is more comfortable(see prev post). Judging from the sounds it has started making, a boxspring is not suited for this purpose. I think a firm slab of foam will work very well.

So, to sum up - sensus is definitely not tempurpedic (and not as comfortable), but it is reasonably comfortable and reasonably priced.
 

ep12582

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Originally posted by: ep12582
Can I get a rundown of the top 5-10 Best Memory foam pillows? I'm currently looking at the tempur-pedic comfort pillow, but it seems very thin (unless I'm blind) has anyone used this pillow? I'm so confused as to which pillow I should get. Thanks.

By the way, I've been trying to find "The Perfect Pillow" by clicking all of the links that originate from linens and things, and it no longer exists.. what gives?

Where's atrac??
 

ep12582

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Originally posted by: ep12582
Originally posted by: ep12582
Can I get a rundown of the top 5-10 Best Memory foam pillows? I'm currently looking at the tempur-pedic comfort pillow, but it seems very thin (unless I'm blind) has anyone used this pillow? I'm so confused as to which pillow I should get. Thanks.

By the way, I've been trying to find "The Perfect Pillow" by clicking all of the links that originate from linens and things, and it no longer exists.. what gives?

Where's atrac??

Can't let this die... not yet.!!
 

ep12582

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thanks clarkmo, I was under the impression that it was "linens and things" brand. Btw, have you or anyone here try the Thempu-pedic "Comfort" model? Its the one that has me interested considering that the thempu-pedic brand was listed as #2 out of top 5 on one of Atrac's old post. Anyone who can help me with make the right choice in purchasing a brand that works for me I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
 

SpotDancer

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Originally posted by: ep12582
thanks clarkmo, I was under the impression that it was "linens and things" brand. Btw, have you or anyone here try the Thempu-pedic "Comfort" model? Its the one that has me interested considering that the thempu-pedic brand was listed as #2 out of top 5 on one of Atrac's old post. Anyone who can help me with make the right choice in purchasing a brand that works for me I'd really appreciate it. Thanks


You dont have to read very much of this thread to find out that people's opinions on the different pillows and mattress toppers is all over the map. There is a definite "learning" curve that your body must go through before it finally decides whether or not it likes one of these memory foam pillows or mattress pads, as also shown by lots of comments. Some people didnt like them till they tried them for a while then changed their mind and did like them.

Since everyone's opinions seem to be all over the map there is really only one way to determine if you like one of them or not - you gotta try them for a while. With the Brookstone tempurpedic, if you dont like it you can return it and get your money back. Only problem is, is that it is about 4 times more expensive than some other pillows that people really like.

I have bought a bunch of pillows and mattress pads and the ones I like the best are definitely the Sensus. I have no idea why some people are saying that they think these pillows are "hard" but to each his/her own - I am not complaining that someone finds them hard, I personally think they are soft but firm with just the right amount of "give" to them. For me they were my best bang for the buck.

So, there is the dilemma........should you buy a pillow that costs $100 which you can return if you dont like it, or take a "chance" on a less expensive pillow? It took me a while to land on something I really liked and it is the Sensus. And the price was right too. I also like the Comfort Zone pillow made by Carpenter, and bought it on SmartBargains.com. The price for these pillows is about the same as the Sensus, but the Sensus pillows were a bit bigger which I also appreciated.

Good luck in your travels for the "best" memory foam!!
 

whovous

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I plan to keep using my Sensus pillows, but they can be incredibly hard at times. I am a side sleeper, and accustomed to sort of wadding my pillow up for extra 'height' some times. If you approach the Sensus foam from the wrong angle, it can seem hard as a rock. I've not made sense of how that is possible, but I am pretty sure about what I feel. They have much to recommend them, but they are not perfect.

I've not yet bought a foam mattress, but based on a few minutes in a few stores, I am pretty sure I will like one with far fewer reservations than I have had about pillows. I am not bug on the contour shape, and most of em are mighty thin for a side sleeper. I stack two, but they don't always stay together as well I as I would like.