The Time To Get Off Of Facebook Is Now.

[Harvey]

According to Wikipedia:

Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.

"Fear mongering" does not require that the information be false. Just that it is sometimes exaggerated and is repeated. Thus a true fact can be used in fear mongering.

Not taking sides, just pointing out a fact.

MotionMan

So, assuming what I've posted is true, under that definition of fear mongering:

1. What is my "specific end," other than to inform my fellow forum members about a set of facts and the implications I perceive?

2. What kind of friend would I be if I perceive a legitimate threat and remained silent?

3. This deal with Goldman Sachs and the Russian firm, Digital Sky Technologies, just happened, yesterday, and I posted about it a couple of hours after it happened. Beyond that, I've replied directly to posts in this thread, including further facts and supporting links. How is that a "pattern ... of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle?"

4. I never posted anything about the Bushwhackos intended to scare anyone. I posted facts documenting their crimes and called for their prosecution for those crimes under the laws of the United States of America, and I continue to do so.

If you want something to fear, be afraid of what not pursuing them for their crimes tells our own citizens about how much we can rely on our government to uphold the rights guaranteed to us under our once honored, once valued U.S. Constitution and the meaning of the words inscribed above the West Portico of the U.S. Supreme Court:

Then, think about what it tells the rest of the world about our own integrity as a nation, how much they can believe what we say and how much they can trust us to meet our obligations and to uphold any agreements with them.

 

[MetalMat]

I still dont understand people that post their phone number on FB. I was kinda seeing this one chick that did that, freakin crazy.

 

[Ns1]

FB paranoia FTL

 

[RelaxTheMind]

this is why my facebook tab will always be next to my atot tab. they both bring me the same amount of mundane enjoyment.

 

[MotionMan]

So, assuming what I've posted is true, under that definition of fear mongering:

1. What is my "specific end," other than to inform my fellow forum members about a set of facts and the implications I perceive?

2. What kind of friend would I be if I perceive a legitimate threat and remained silent?

3. This deal with Goldman Sachs and the Russian firm, Digital Sky Technologies, just happened, yesterday, and I posted about it a couple of hours after it happened. Beyond that, I've replied directly to posts in this thread, including further facts and supporting links. How is that a "pattern ... of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle?"

4. I never posted anything about the Bushwhackos intended to scare anyone. I posted facts documenting their crimes and called for their prosecution for those crimes under the laws of the United States of America, and I continue to do so.

If you want something to fear, be afraid of what not pursuing them for their crimes tells our own citizens about how much we can rely on our government to uphold the rights guaranteed to us under our once honored, once valued U.S. Constitution and the meaning of the words inscribed above the West Portico of the U.S. Supreme Court:

Then, think about what it tells the rest of the world about our own integrity as a nation, how much they can believe what we say and how much they can trust us to meet our obligations and to uphold any agreements with them.

Harvey,

You are perfectly justified in saying what you say and do well by backing it up with facts. You clearly believe strongly in what you say.

However, I would not say that you present the information in a neutral, just the facts, sort of way and you do tend to repeat yourself, all of which is a good way to turn other people off to your point of view. In other words, some people probably disagree with you not because of what you say, but because of how you say it.

Also, I am not sure why, but it seems like you feel that you have to beat everyone who does not fully agree with you into the ground.

No matter how much you push, how strongly you say it, how many times you say, there are just going to be people who don't see it the way you do (or, at least, will not admit that they cannot reasonably disagree - perhaps just to wind you up and watch you go). I was a very frustrated person until I came to that realization.

(Please note I have not express an opposing opinion regarding Facebook or Bush.)

MotionMan

 

[kstu]

I still dont understand people that post their phone number on FB. I was kinda seeing this one chick that did that, freakin crazy.

why?

 

[Ns1]

why?

don't you know? thieves can steal your identity with just a phone number now.


Really though, where's the outrage at the whitepages for publishing EVERYONE's phone number?

 

[Harvey]

don't you know? thieves can steal your identity with just a phone number now.


Really though, where's the outrage at the whitepages for publishing EVERYONE's phone number?

Land line phone subscribers can opt out of having their names, addresses and phone numbers published in the phone company's white page directory. The same is not true about the information Facebook has on every user or what they do with the information they get about your habits while they track your movements around the web.

Where's the outrage at idiots who raise specious distractions and diversions, instead of addressing the real issues in the thread?

 

[Ns1]

instead of addressing the real issues in the thread?

there are no real issues in this thread.

don't put what you don't want the public to know on facebook.

 

[zinfamous]

there are no real issues in this thread.

don't put what you don't want the public to know on facebook.

also remember to tell your friends not to include things about you that you don't want to be known. Oh, and you have to actually make sure that they follow through with such requests...

that's the problem, it seems. FB mines everything and everyone that it can possibly link to your account.

 

[Ns1]

also remember to tell your friends not to include things about you that you don't want to be known. Oh, and you have to actually make sure that they follow through with such requests...

that's the problem, it seems. FB mines everything and everyone that it can possibly link to your account.

Land line phone subscribers can opt out of having their names, addresses and phone numbers published in the phone company's white page directory.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't get it. so that allows you to prevent others from tagging you in their photos that they place on their facebooks and info that they post on their facebook thingy?

what is to stop them from posting some inane crud about you that is then traced by facebook?

 

[Ns1]

what is to stop them from posting some inane crud about you that is then traced by facebook?

like? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

tagging = you tag me on your photos that you upload, they appear on my wall because you tagged me
privacy settings = you can make sure other people can't see these photos

 

[Double Trouble]

Good heads up.... make sure the information on FB (if you have an account) is limited and not linked to anything else. Set up a separate junk facebook email so FB can't mine your data elsewhere. Facebook is basically an orwellian government's wet dream.

 

[Double Trouble]

like? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

tagging = you tag me on your photos that you upload, they appear on my wall because you tagged me
privacy settings = you can make sure other people can't see these photos

Huh? If someone uploads a picture to their page that includes you and tags you, you can control who can see the picture on their page? I'm confused.

 

[Ns1]

Huh? If someone uploads a picture to their page that includes you and tags you, you can control who can see the picture on their page? I'm confused.

By default a picture tagged of YOU on someone elses' page also shows up on YOUR page (pictures I'm tagged in)

This would prevent people from seeing the picture on YOUR page. Not sure how it works with said picture on other pages.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Huh? If someone uploads a picture to their page that includes you and tags you, you can control who can see the picture on their page? I'm confused.

From FB's Help Section:

How does photo tagging privacy work?

You can restrict who can view all tagged photos of you from the Privacy Settings page. Note that tagging a photo does not change the existing privacy setting of the photo. For example, if a photo is limited to the album owner’s friends only, it will not appear to the tagged person’s friends unless they are also friends with the album owner. Tagging only affects privacy if the photo was previously not visible to person being tagged. You will always be able to see a photo in which you are tagged.

You can set your notifications [link to FAQ about notifications] so that you always know when someone tags you or one of your photos. If you wish to remove a tag of you or one made on a photo that you uploaded, click "remove tag" next to the tag when viewing the photo. If you tag a friend in a photo that you did not upload, you cannot remove or edit the tag. Only the owner of the photo or the tagged user will be able to do so.

 

[Harvey]

instead of addressing the real issues in the thread?

there are no real issues in this thread.

Yes, there are issues. Go back to the top of the thread and read through it to find it. Or you're welcome to ignore it at your own peril. Frankly, I can't afford the luxure of giving a damn what happens to those too reading challenged to understand or too lame to care.

 

[0roo0roo]

look for yourself on spokeo
there is plenty of fun to go around.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yes, there are issues. Go back to the top of the thread and read through it to find it. Or you're welcome to ignore it at your own peril. Frankly, I can't afford the luxure of giving a damn what happens to those too reading challenged to understand or too lame to care.

You seriously believe Russians are going to make FB give them customer information so they can be spammed after all of the scrutiny they have received over privacy issues?

 

[alkemyst]

it's ok nao, I joined the tin foil beanie app.

 

[HeXen]

and in 100 + years from now, all humans will be intimately linked as a single consciousness, we will all know what were all thinking. each generation cares less and less about privacy, thats how it will start. *i edited here*

 

[Harvey]

You seriously believe Russians are going to make FB give them customer information so they can be spammed after all of the scrutiny they have received over privacy issues?

Spam is the least of my concerns. Read my post about cyber-warefare. I'm far more concerned that a Russian conglomerate with close Kremlin ties has an ownership interest in Facebook which could include access to information about users not viewable by them and the possiblity of allowing links to trojan sites that could compromise national security.

I'm not alone. Government and law enforcement agencies share that concern. I know because I've spoken with some of them. You may remember when live human beings actually spoke in real, audible words, in real conversations, in real time, sometime before everyone was so hung up on twitter, facebook, texting and e-mail that they became hazards to safe driving.

 

[erikistired]

also, the sky is falling.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Spam is the least of my concerns. Read my post about cyber-warefare. I'm far more concerned that a Russian conglomerate with close Kremlin ties has an ownership interest in Facebook which could include access to information about users not viewable by them and the possiblity of allowing links to trojan sites that could compromise national security.

I'm not alone. Government and law enforcement agencies share that concern. I know because I've spoken with some of them. You may remember when live human beings actually spoke in real, audible words, in real conversations, in real time, sometime before everyone was so hung up on twitter, facebook, texting and e-mail that they became hazards to safe driving.

So, you're worried about the Russian Gov't and another cold war? What about China? Are own military personnel giving out classified information?

If Government and law enforcement agencies share your concern, why don't they do something about it?

The tinfoil is strong with you.