The Time To Get Off Of Facebook Is Now.

[erikistired]

You may remember when live human beings actually spoke in real, audible words, in real conversations, in real time, sometime before everyone was so hung up on twitter, facebook, texting and e-mail that they became hazards to safe driving.

oh, i see what this is about. the times have passed you by and you're bitter. my grandmother is the same way, she hates technology too.

 

[Imp]

Does anyone wonder who the creeps on FB are?

Everyone, meet Imp!

Thank you, thank you! Nice to meet you all!


When I get bored, I google people I know. Not remotely interested in 99% of the info, just seeing how much of an e-trail they've left. Most are in fact smart enough to set their privacy properly. The ones with LinkedIn profiles generally leave most of their FB profile public, or have careless significant others. You put yourself out there, don't feel bad if people look.

Biggest mistake I've noticed is that some people use extremely revealing profile pictures and/pr have a collection of them viewable by the public.

 

[Stuxnet]

Dammit what a terrible time to find I'm out of tinfoil. I guess I'm screwed.

 

[Minerva]

Spam is the least of my concerns. Read my post about cyber-warefare. I'm far more concerned that a Russian conglomerate with close Kremlin ties has an ownership interest in Facebook which could include access to information about users not viewable by them and the possiblity of allowing links to trojan sites that could compromise national security.

I'm not alone. Government and law enforcement agencies share that concern. I know because I've spoken with some of them. You may remember when live human beings actually spoke in real, audible words, in real conversations, in real time, sometime before everyone was so hung up on twitter, facebook, texting and e-mail that they became hazards to safe driving.

What about terrorists and terrorist training camps using things like chat built into games, skype and other chat software that allows realtime a/v? Many are proprietary, encapsulate data and even encrypt their connections! What's the recourse against that?

 

[Jeffg010]

Keep laughing and calling me names, little boy. All you prove is that you don't know is your ass from that hole in the ground you keep digging for yourself. People's personal info IS at risk on Facebook.

I'm so scared of people knowing I play lucky train and back yard monsters on facebook. Harvey your nothing but a fear monger.

 

[Kev]

Spam is the least of my concerns. Read my post about cyber-warefare. I'm far more concerned that a Russian conglomerate with close Kremlin ties has an ownership interest in Facebook which could include access to information about users not viewable by them and the possiblity of allowing links to trojan sites that could compromise national security.

Why would FB share data with an investor? That isn't really a normal company-investor relationship.

And I could honestly care less if they got my email address and sent me spam, because it would just get picked up by gmail's spam blocker just like all the other thousands of spam messages that it has picked up.

 

[Jeffg010]

Why would FB share data with an investor? That isn't really a normal company-investor relationship.

And I could honestly care less if they got my email address and sent me spam, because it would just get picked up by gmail's spam blocker just like all the other thousands of spam messages that it has picked up.

Ya I been on the internet since 95 and every e-mail I ever own got spammed. Guess what I did get a new E-mail.

 

[SAWYER]

Someone should set up a Harvey fb and twitter lol

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I wouldn't be worried about websites that you voluntarily post your information on I would be more worried about the domestic spying the government does that you don't know about.

 

[zinfamous]

By default a picture tagged of YOU on someone elses' page also shows up on YOUR page (pictures I'm tagged in)

This would prevent people from seeing the picture on YOUR page. Not sure how it works with said picture on other pages.

that's the point. how do you control what others do on their pages, as it relates to you.

this is how FB gets all of the info about you that you think you are keeping away from them.

so, can you prevent others from tagging you on photos that they post on their pages?

say someone posts some inane comment that involves you and some details that you didn't want out there...boom!

 

[zinfamous]

look for yourself on spokeo
there is plenty of fun to go around.

they are about 3 years behind on me, the previous city where I lived, and a total of 4 addresses prior to current, and only with my nickname.

They have no idea who the real me is (my official name, as it is tied to SS#).
:ninja:

 

[MotionMan]

say someone posts some inane comment that involves you and some details that you didn't want out there...boom!

Um, you do not need Facebook for that.

MotionMan

 

[Minerva]

Spokeo, zaba, etc. just pick up public information. Nothing new there. If people have a unique last name and use it on Facebook they are morons.

 

[kstu]

Spokeo, zaba, etc. just pick up public information. Nothing new there. If people have a unique last name and use it on Facebook they are morons.

why?

 

[zinfamous]

Um, you do not need Facebook for that.

MotionMan

true enough. but the point is (not just for inane comments) FB will track all of your contacts' pages for info relating to you. say your email or phone number or whatever whatever is buried somewhere in someone's page--say, their FB address book.

FB now has your info, even though you didn't want them to have it. Nothing you can really do about that outside of telling all of your friends: Hey, don't copy down my info in any of your FB, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, Amazon, etc accounts, and then, of course, following up and going through all of their accounts to see if they comply with your demands.


FB will have it, whether you like it or not.

 

[Ns1]

that's the point. how do you control what others do on their pages, as it relates to you.

this is how FB gets all of the info about you that you think you are keeping away from them.

so, can you prevent others from tagging you on photos that they post on their pages?

say someone posts some inane comment that involves you and some details that you didn't want out there...boom!

"You can restrict who can view all tagged photos of you from the Privacy Settings page. Note that tagging a photo does not change the existing privacy setting of the photo. For example, if a photo is limited to the album owner’s friends only, it will not appear to the tagged person’s friends unless they are also friends with the album owner. Tagging only affects privacy if the photo was previously not visible to person being tagged. You will always be able to see a photo in which you are tagged.
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re: everything else, I don't see how that's any different from real life.

 

[HeXen]

i view the net, the same as walking outside my house. i'm in public so i know i'm being watched from a neighbor, city camera..something. my info is in a wallet secured by me. somebody somewhere can see where i go.

When i go online, i use similar security as far as my awareness that i'm not alone goes...that being there is no real privacy, i don't consider going to Walmart.com to be any more private and anonymous than when i visit the store.
but the privacy nuts view the Net is the same as their bedroom or something...thats...stu...pid

 

[zinfamous]

"You can restrict who can view all tagged photos of you from the Privacy Settings page. Note that tagging a photo does not change the existing privacy setting of the photo. For example, if a photo is limited to the album owner’s friends only, it will not appear to the tagged person’s friends unless they are also friends with the album owner. Tagging only affects privacy if the photo was previously not visible to person being tagged. You will always be able to see a photo in which you are tagged.
"

re: everything else, I don't see how that's any different from real life.

right.


so you still haven't shown me anything that keeps FB out of your pants, no matter what your friends do. I've been asking about trying to keep FB away, in light of the fact that FB will mine everything your friend's post.
FB honestly doesn't care who or what is tagged for other FB's to see. It still wants to--and will--archive anything that is on any page.


I'm honestly not too worried about FB--it's just servers talking to servers, sending non-identifiable data to advertisers so they can sell you their shit.

the problem is in FB's philosophy--from the whore's mouth himself: "No one really wants privacy. It is a relic of the past." And this is what makes this deal so eye-opening. Zuckerburg pretty much feels the same way that Putin does. No one is entitled to privacy, and those that feel they are, must be hiding something. Fuck, we've already had one automaton in this thread share the exact some delusion.

seriously: Fuck that guy to hell. and the fact that most people who apply the strictist privacy settings possible to keep FB away, are still doing very little to keep FB from archiving that very same data. That's the point...

 

[Ns1]

right.
so you still haven't shown me anything that keeps FB out of your pants, no matter what your friends do.

From actually being on facebook for 5+ years, I have never ever encountered an instance where this was an issue.

It's not like someone can go randomly search for Zinfamous and find every single post that mentions Zinfamous. I'd argue that if someone found your ATOT handle that your posting history on ATOT is way more damaging than shit you can find on facebook.


This is the internet. Basic lesson of the internet is don't post shit you don't want floating around forever. Your downfall can be from ATOT, Facebook, Twitter, someone's blog...

I'm not looking to change your mind or anything, I just find this whole thing ridiculously blown out of proportion.

 

[Harvey]

So, you're worried about the Russian Gov't and another cold war? What about China? Are own military personnel giving out classified information?

Pathetic that you're so reading challenged that you couldn't comprehend the second article linked in my previous post. j I'll help you with your short attention span by quoting this paragraph:

Cyber warfare 'now a reality' with United States and Russia armed
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France, Israel and China are among the countries known to have cyber weapon programmes, according to Paul Kurtz, the former White House adviser who complied the study based on interviews with more than 20 experts.
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If Government and law enforcement agencies share your concern, why don't they do something about it?

What makes you think they aren't? What do you think we've discussed?

IThe tinfoil is strong with you.

Either the willing ignorance or the blatant stupidity is strong with you. Which is it?

 

[DivideBYZero]

OH NO TEH RUSSIANS!!!!!!! FEEEAAAARRRRR!!

Fear mongering and terrible thread in general. I shall continue to update facepage with mundane crap and photos of interest.

 

[conehead433]

Digital Sky AKA Skynet. We should all be worried. You know what happens next.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Spam is the least of my concerns. Read my post about cyber-warefare. I'm far more concerned that a Russian conglomerate with close Kremlin ties has an ownership interest in Facebook which could include access to information about users not viewable by them and the possiblity of allowing links to trojan sites that could compromise national security.

Jesus Christ, please stop posting. :biggrin::biggrin:

 

[Harvey]

Jesus Christ, please stop posting. :biggrin::biggrin:

Don't worry about it. If Jesus Christ posts, here, I can ban him. :biggrin: :biggrin:

 

[DivideBYZero]

Yeah, I know who you are, still doesn't make this thread any less depressing. I wish you well in the future, but seriously, forget about this. There are far worse things being done to you by your own Govt. and coporations before you start having to worry about Russian Commercial investment groups expanding their portfolio.