The Time To Get Off Of Facebook Is Now.

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Imp

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I finally made an account a year ago, and log in once a month now. There are no pictures of myself, with the exception of 2 that don't show my face.

Otherwise, I have 3 or 4 wall posts. No updates in months, but I find the stalking function incredibly useful. With my account and the help of Google, I found the entire employment history of a few of my coworkers, the names of their significant others, their twitter accounts, and various drunken pictures. I also saw lots of 2-facery: people who've told me they hate someone in real life, yet have the despised party on their "friend" list.
 

crownjules

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Yup. Friends post pics including you, and if they tag you in them (and women always do), those pics magically show up in your profile whether you want them to or not.

You have to TELL your friends to untag you, and since it's (in my experience) mostly less computer savvy females doing it, good luck with that!

You can go to those pics and untag yourself you know...
 

zephyrprime

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So what if you get spammed? Email is already full of spam. If facebook gets full of spam, it will simply meet the same demise as email.
 

Stuxnet

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Yeah, what IS it with Facebook and women? I joined at the behest of several female artist friends. It's an estrogen fest, sadly polluted and dominated by the neediest and most clueless of the attention whores among their effing friends.

One woman, a talented artist but a nutter, has even pissed off her other friends by refusing to communicate anymore by phone or even e-mail, it must be ONLY by freaking Facebook!

Yup. I only use it to organize parties with neighbors and friends, but whenever I go on there I'm bombarded with thinly veiled pathetic cries for attention... my own head case of a sister being one of the worst offenders. The wife of a friend posts from her phone every 6 seconds with totally useless nonsense. If she takes a bit out of a cookie, by god you're going to hear about it.

People just don't realize how pathetic they look when they let it all hang out so desperately and so publicly.
 

darkewaffle

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I finally made an account a year ago, and log in once a month now. There are no pictures of myself, with the exception of 2 that don't show my face.

Otherwise, I have 3 or 4 wall posts. No updates in months, but I find the stalking function incredibly useful. With my account and the help of Google, I found the entire employment history of a few of my coworkers, the names of their significant others, their twitter accounts, and various drunken pictures. I also saw lots of 2-facery: people who've told me they hate someone in real life, yet have the despised party on their "friend" list.

Special post of the day award nominee.
 

cheezy321

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I finally made an account a year ago, and log in once a month now. There are no pictures of myself, with the exception of 2 that don't show my face.

Otherwise, I have 3 or 4 wall posts. No updates in months, but I find the stalking function incredibly useful. With my account and the help of Google, I found the entire employment history of a few of my coworkers, the names of their significant others, their twitter accounts, and various drunken pictures. I also saw lots of 2-facery: people who've told me they hate someone in real life, yet have the despised party on their "friend" list.

Does anyone wonder who the creeps on FB are?

Everyone, meet Imp!
 

apac

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I finally made an account a year ago, and log in once a month now. There are no pictures of myself, with the exception of 2 that don't show my face.

Otherwise, I have 3 or 4 wall posts. No updates in months, but I find the stalking function incredibly useful. With my account and the help of Google, I found the entire employment history of a few of my coworkers, the names of their significant others, their twitter accounts, and various drunken pictures. I also saw lots of 2-facery: people who've told me they hate someone in real life, yet have the despised party on their "friend" list.

I've got lots of drinking/fun pics online. I advertise where I work, and am FB friends with several co-workers as well. As it is, I've been at my company for 4 years, there's all kinds of pictures online (Rocky Horror Picture Show, anyone?), and I've never had the slightest indication that anyone has a problem with it.

If someone isn't going to hire me based on my personal life outside of the office, then I don't want to be working there anyway. There's nothing wrong with having a fun social life. That said, don't be a moron either and wave around fucking stupid pics (illegal, explicit, drugs, etc).

So go ahead, stalk me. I'll let my resume and experience speak for itself when it comes to my professional life.
 
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skyking

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Yeah, what IS it with Facebook and women? I joined at the behest of several female artist friends. It's an estrogen fest, sadly polluted and dominated by the neediest and most clueless of the attention whores among their effing friends.

One woman, a talented artist but a nutter, has even pissed off her other friends by refusing to communicate anymore by phone or even e-mail, it must be ONLY by freaking Facebook!

And, of course, it is indiscreet to defriend major friends of friends and/or people you may not want all that much to do with because they're annoying but for whom defriending would cause a disturbance in the vaginal force field.

Anyway, I signed up with a humorous name, a throwaway e-mail, and zero genuine personal info. Only my friends on there know who I really am.

But I'm here to tell you this: Facebook kinda' sucks.
The emails and phone calls were eating into her "farmville" time!
 

yhelothar

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Facebook presents a unique, and possibly awkward social situation in which any comment you give to your friends can be possibly be seen by any of your other friends including your mom and coworkers, even if they aren't friends with your friend. The newsfeed seriously needs to be revamped. That's retarded how it's like that. And what's worse is that you can't even change the settings.
 
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You can wish and believe what you want, but I'm telling you what I know. You don't see what I see trying to spam the forums 24/7, every day, from Russia. They're not the only ones in the game, but they are among the worst, both for volume and content.

where does nigeria and china rank?
 

The Sauce

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So how exactly does on get off of Facebook, because I would love to. Biggest mistake I ever made.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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LoL this thread makes me laugh. Fear mongering at it best. Look only people who have something to hide get paranoid. Harvey you are the biggest fear monger on this board. first it was Bush now it is Facebook thanks for the laugh.

you would make an excellent proletariat, comrade.
 
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There is nothing about me available on Facebook that wasn't available from the white pages of a telephone book before facebook existed. If they want to spam a gmail address let them have fun, that is what it is for.

Exactly. I un-tag myself in pics, I only have spam email accounts listed, and my posts are news or politics with some youtube clips thrown in as well. I don't use location tracking or anything like that, have cleared out all apps, and am not searchable on there (which can be a massive PITA when you want to add a friend who also has hidden themselves from public aspects of it).

I really don't much care about the information they have since it could all be found through public records anyways (and much more could be found that way than through my FB).
 

zinfamous

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What the three do on their time is no business of that Company.

The place for that sort of thing is China, you should move there immediately.

for the most part, I agree. but seeing as how such is public access, and seeing as how there is nothing illegal about logging into these accounts, as there very well should not be--seeing the kind of things that a prospective employee chooses to post on a public site is a good gauge of the quality of that person--especially in a company were discretion is essential.

I wouldn't hire someone that I can't trust with sensitive information. Facebook is a good way to weed out the idiots.
 

vi edit

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If I knew it wasn't grounds for divorce I'd host file hack every PC in the house to facebook.com ---> 127.0.0.1

My wife practically lives on that freaking site. And even stupid, harmless comments have gotten misrepresented and twisted by family members and have resulted in some absolutely juvenile family feuds. And don't even get me started on the epic levels of butthurt people get over being "defriended" on facebook and what that does to your real life interactions with that person.

Sweet jesus we've devolved as a species when it comes to personal communication.

Some could make an argument that me having 40,000+ posts on a forum gives me no room to comment. But it's not the same. I'm not dragging real people, family, and friends along through these posts. I'm not dangling my entire personal life out there for everyone to see.

Oh and on occasion a forum still is the better medium for an intelligent, and structured conversation/discussion/debate. Unlike in facebook where you have one person make a comment and then have another 30 people "like this post!".
 

zinfamous

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My facebook account uses a garbage e-mail account, and I don't put my cellphone number, etc. so risk is minimal. If you approach a site like facebook from the get-go assuming that they will take whatever information you put in there and sell it off, datamine, etc. then it's not that bad of a site. Some people use it like a diary though and put all of their personal info in there, which to me is a bit foolish.

again...from what people are saying here, the amount of your information that you try to keep from FB is quite minimal, as FB mines the info from all of your contacts, and continually scours your internetting to create as accurate a profile of you as it can.

It seems that they get all of your email addresses in a short amount of time.
 

pcslookout

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Stop generalizing a certain country of people. It is wrong. No one would do that here with Asians, Whites, Blacks, people from Japan, people from South Korea, people from Romania, etc.

Generalizing a certain country of people is the same as doing it with skin color. We have moved on but to far worst things than judging people by skin colors. You just can't do it.
 

Kev

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I still don't understand the "threat"... Like many others have posted, there's nothing on my FB page that can't be found out by other means. And certainly no information I would care if anyone researched. It's not like I put my SS number on there...

Harvey, I see your point about clicking on links that could lead to a virus. But to completely eliminate that possibility, I'd pretty much have to drop off the 'net altogether.

I suppose if some Russian dude really wants to see the my pics at the beach, or see how I wished my Uncle a happy birthday... More power to him. *shrug*

But what if you get a spam email?!?!?! Then your gmail spam checker will have to block another spam email!!!!!1!!1!
 

Harvey

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LoL this thread makes me laugh. Fear mongering at it best. Look only people who have something to hide get paranoid. Harvey you are the biggest fear monger on this board. first it was Bush now it is Facebook thanks for the laugh.

Keep laughing and calling me names, little boy. All you prove is that you don't know is your ass from that hole in the ground you keep digging for yourself. People's personal info IS at risk on Facebook.

INTERNET PRIVACY -- December 27, 2010 at 11:08 AM EDT
Delete Older Facebook Apps -- or Risk Everyone's Privacy


By: Vanessa Dennis

If you have a Facebook page, you've probably added quite a few apps. If you've linked your YouTube account, New York Times account, or just about any mobile app to your Facebook profile, you've also installed their app -- and you're sharing your personal information with those companies. But here's the kicker: older Facebook apps appear to also have an all-you-can-eat buffet of access to your friends' personal data, while newer apps have much more limited access.

This may be old news to some, but a non-scientific survey of some Internet-saavy colleagues indicates that many of us are still using outdated Facebook apps. The developers of these older applications required you to hand over your entire digital identity, and often have access to all of your personal data--including things like marital status, personal photos and videos.
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As bad as personal security on Facebook has been in the past, and despite whatever Facebook SAYS they've done to correct the situtation, there's no guarantee that whatever info they already have in their files is going away. I'm not guessing or surmising about Russian Internet activity. I and other mods monitor it daily, and (if you want a guess) we stop over 90&#37; of spam registrations before they are able to post on the forums. As I said, Russia isn't the only source, but they ARE a major source of spammers, and Russians are pretty easy to spot when you see the info we see in our forum administrative areas. I've seen (not just read about) the kinds of activities they're into, and I'd be very concerned if they had access to the kinds of data Facebook has on their users.

That's not "fear mongering." That's not paranoia. That's fact.

If you don't know about cyber-warfare, maybe you should talk to some of the law enforcement agents with whom I've discussed the subject in the course of moderating the forums. Russia, China and other nations, including the U.S., are actively conducting cyber-warfare on various levels.

Cyber warfare 'now a reality' with United States and Russia armed

Cyber warfare is now a reality with at least five nations including the United States and Russia already armed with virtual weapons, according to a report.

By Matthew Moore 7:00AM GMT 18 Nov 2009

A wave of politically-motivated cyber offensives this year &#8211; such as attacks on the White House and the US Department of Homeland Security &#8211; show that the international arms race is now moving online, a study claims.

The report warns that cyber strikes could have a "devastating" impact on national infrastructure with power grids, water supplies and financial markets all at risk.

While the potential of online warfare has long been talked up, the Virtual Criminology Report released by the web security firm McAfee claims that it is now moving from science fiction to fact.

France, Israel and China are among the countries known to have cyber weapon programmes, according to Paul Kurtz, the former White House adviser who complied the study based on interviews with more than 20 experts.

&#8220;McAfee began to warn of the global cyber arms race more than two years ago, but now we&#8217;re seeing increasing evidence that it&#8217;s become real,&#8221; said Dave Dealt, president of McAfee.

&#8220;Now several nations around the world are actively engaged in cyber warlike preparations and attacks. Today, the weapons are not nuclear, but virtual, and everyone must adapt to these threats.&#8221;

The infrastructure of most developed nations is connected to the internet and vulnerable to hackers because of insufficient security controls, the report warns.

Companies will also be caught in the crossfire of future cyber wars between governments because so many essential services are privately run, it advises.

Last month a congressional advisory panel in the US warned that China appears to be using the growing technical abilities to collect US intelligence through a sophisticated and long-term computer attack campaign.

Georgia also accused Russian hackers linked to the government of forcing Georgian websites offline during the real-world conflict between the two nations in 2008.

If we're lucky, our own government agencies have hardened their systems against attack and are continuing to do so, but hacking into systems isn't the only potential problem. All you have to do is click a link and land on an innocent looking page, and that page could put a trojan on your machine or your network that wouldn't do anything... until whoever planted it signaled all infected machines to launch a DDOS (Distributed Denial Of Service) attack.

Our power and communications grids and other infrastructure are on the web. Our government agencies are on the web. Our financial and commercial institutions are on the web. The bad guys don't have to break into any of them to wreak havoc. All they have to do on any given day is bring them to a screaching halt with DDOS attack. That hasn't happened for... oh... a couple of weeks, and then, it wasn't trojan droids; it was a bunch of real human beings doing it on behalf of wikileaks.

That's not "fear mongering." That's not paranoia. That's fact.

Beyond big institutional systems, there's nothing to stop someone from posting a link on Facebook to malicious site that could infect individuals who, some of whom may not protect their machines as well as you'd like to think you do.

Don't think you could be fooled into clicking a link to a malicious site? Do you think everyone who clicks a link on a facebook page is smart enough and aware enough not to get caught by such links?

Have you heard of url shorteners, like tinyurl.com? If you click a link through one of them, your system won't show where the link will take you before you get there. That's why we're banning them on AT.

That's not "fear mongering." That's not paranoia. That's fact.

Which brings us to your last piece of inane stupidity, calling me a "fear monger" because of my previous posts regarding your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents. Try re-reading my posts on the subject. You'll find links to documenting the facts of their crimes and to legal and statutory citations establishing that their actions are in fact heinous crimes.

If you're too mouse challenged to manage that, just say so. I have most of those posts saved, and I can repost them in this thread at will. If you still think the Bushwhackos weren't the worst criminals ever to hold the executive branch of government, either you're one of the criminals, or you're dumber than a rock.

That's not "fear mongering." That's not paranoia. That's fact. :rolleyes:
 
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Harvey

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where does nigeria and china rank?

The spamming activities differ between various nations and regions. The Chinese pimp a lot of software and knock off clothing and tech gear. Whether any given site is real or fraudulant is another question. If you want to be safe, don't go there.

Spammers from India and the Phillipines are whores for hire, spamming links to any and all kinds of merchandise and services from plumbers to lighting shops to party planners. I have to laugh when I see spam promoting a decorative rock shop in Cleveland, Ohio posted by some droid in Bombay.

As you would expect, Nigerian spam includes a lot of fraud, including offers to sell credit card numbers with security PIN's. They also pimp cheap cell phones and other electronics.

And all of them have bot programs that send spam to addresses harvested from places like Facebook and other programs that register forum accounts and post their cookie cutter spam threads and messages.

Stop generalizing a certain country of people. It is wrong. No one would do that here with Asians, Whites, Blacks, people from Japan, people from South Korea, people from Romania, etc.

Generalizing a certain country of people is the same as doing it with skin color. We have moved on but to far worst things than judging people by skin colors. You just can't do it.

Yes, I can do it, and yes, I am doing it. I'm not judging anyone by their skin color, religion, region or nationality. We have plenty of commercial, criminal and malicious spammers right here in the U.S. We also get them from our closest allies, including Canada, the U.K., France, Italy and others. I think the bigger difference is what the respective governments of those nations do to stop these activites and/or, in some cases, how involved some those government agencies, themselves, are in them. And that's before we get to the issue of cyber-warfare, which is largely government sponsored.
 
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shortylickens

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Goddamn this thread is getting good!

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zinfamous

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Stop generalizing a certain country of people. It is wrong. No one would do that here with Asians, Whites, Blacks, people from Japan, people from South Korea, people from Romania, etc.

Generalizing a certain country of people is the same as doing it with skin color. We have moved on but to far worst things than judging people by skin colors. You just can't do it.

explore the world a bit. See what Russia has done to its former occupied territories, what it is still doing, what it continues to do to it's own people, the kind of BS propaganda it spreads, those that remain brainwashed to this.

Then you might get it. Nothing against the average Russian, in general, but they sleep in the bed they make. This is their MO, b/c they have created it, they continue to perpetuate this en masse. So, it is extremely difficult to not generalize. It's not for nothing that the UN recognizes Russia in the top 5 of most corrupt nations in the world. A nation that fucked up, no wonder you produce the biggest hive of scammers and outright criminals.

Also, you can't really tell the hundreds of millions of people who suffered under Russian occupation for 6 decades to "get over it." That they "can't discriminate against a people or another nation." Why the fuck did Russia discriminate against them? Why the fuck was it "OK" for them to do that for 60 some years? Why was Hitler the devil and Stalin was..."not bad enough?"

I've met plenty of fine Russians, but the fact remains that Russia, as a whole, continues to perpetuate the image of the USSR, and filthy fucked-up lies about discrimination against Russian citizens in foreign lands, who are merely occupiers. far worse than those in the US that complain about Mexican illegals that don't want to learn English.

stop being a little naive boy and go back to sweeping the floors at Google.
 

MotionMan

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According to Wikipedia:

Fear mongering (or scaremongering) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.

"Fear mongering" does not require that the information be false. Just that it is sometimes exaggerated and is repeated. Thus a true fact can be used in fear mongering.

Not taking sides, just pointing out a fact.

MotionMan