the real question is, should Iowa matter?
regardless of the outcome, I'm hoping the answer is no and that we don't have a repeat of 2004, with a small percentage of a small, unrepresentative state acting as a kingmaker.
regardless of the outcome, I'm hoping the answer is no and that we don't have a repeat of 2004, with a small percentage of a small, unrepresentative state acting as a kingmaker.
We should matter, after all my vote is worth just as much as yours. In the grand scheme of things all of the hype over us isn't all that worthwhile. The other states vote just as they would have anyway, we just happen to be the first to begin pruning the crowd of candidates.
jonks
Lifer
- Feb 7, 2005
- 13,918
- 20
- 81
I know he's not doing so great in the polls, but this just smacks of desperation:
If Elected, I Will Have The Hottest First Lady In U.S. History
By Sen. Fred Thompson
Presidential Candidate
My fellow Americans, in the coming presidential election, the voters of this nation will plot a course for the future. There are many candidates, each of whom brings a different vision of that future. But only one has the conviction and strength to lead this great country. Only one is a popular television and film actor ready to face the challenges of the 21st century head-on. And, most importantly, there is only one candidate with a bombshell trophy wife nearly a quarter-century younger than himself.
I urge each and every one of you to run a Google image search and see the evidence for yourself: photo after photo of a tall but wrinkled and sagging 64-year-old man?that's me?standing at various gala events, his arm wrapped around a stunning woman with glowing orange skin and beautiful platinum- highlighted hair. A bold woman, squeezed into a dress with a plunging neckline so low her enormous breasts seem almost ready to leap out and scream, "Hey world?look at us! We are married to a famous man we saw in Die Hard 2 when we were in college!"
That's her, ladies and gentlemen. That's my wife. Yes, we are actually married.
If elected, I pledge that same woman?who is a full six years younger than my eldest son?will be by my side at all state dinners, dressed to the nines, causing the Chinese delegation's jaws to drop in amazement at her gravity-defying rack.
This is my solemn vow to all Americans.
I am aware of the critics who doubt my ability to deliver on this promise. "What about Jackie Kennedy?" they ask. "Wasn't she a hotter first lady?" If all America cares about is hotness from the neck up, then yes. Though Jackie looked good in a pillbox hat, she never possessed that I-have-obvious-father-issues sort of hotness the people of this country appreciate so deeply. Go on, close your eyes and try picturing Jackie Kennedy on the cover of some magazine spilling out of a bikini. You can't do it, can you? Now try the same mental experiment with Mrs. Fred. The results speak for themselves.
I say America deserves hotter.
I am a man of simple conservative values, values I learned sitting around the kitchen table with my grandfather. It was there, at the age of 9, that he told me, "Boy, one day, you will find true love with a woman who will be born in about 15 years. Promise Jesus that when you marry her in your late 50s you will be true."
I intend to honor that promise.
In my many years in Hollywood and Washington, I've been with country-western singers, actresses, and models. America, I even once saw Nicole Kidman's bush when I accidentally walked into her trailer on the set of Days of Thunder, in which I played the role of Big John. But despite it all, I've grown to value and cherish my wife more than any starfucker I've ever known.
Because my wife is so much more than just a sweet slice, sweet though she may be. She is a mother who has given me two beautiful children, whom I adore, even if they do get confused sometimes and call me "Grandpa." But I know that in the Thompson household, when I ask the question, "Who's your daddy?" there is always one person I can rely on to scream out my name. This is my guarantee to you, the voters.
If you elect me as your next president, you will see this woman on TV nearly every day, jogging around the Rose Garden in tight Lycra shorts, bouncing all over the place with a figure that Americans of every stripe?from surgeons to truckers?will want to nail. Yours will be a first lady who is not only hot enough to appear in Playboy, but who might actually be willing to appear in Playboy. And if you choose me to be your next president, that is exactly what she'll do, in the November 2012 issue, guaranteeing me a second term once the public gets a good look at those truly incredible bazongas.
Thank you, and God bless America.
If Elected, I Will Have The Hottest First Lady In U.S. History
By Sen. Fred Thompson
Presidential Candidate
My fellow Americans, in the coming presidential election, the voters of this nation will plot a course for the future. There are many candidates, each of whom brings a different vision of that future. But only one has the conviction and strength to lead this great country. Only one is a popular television and film actor ready to face the challenges of the 21st century head-on. And, most importantly, there is only one candidate with a bombshell trophy wife nearly a quarter-century younger than himself.
I urge each and every one of you to run a Google image search and see the evidence for yourself: photo after photo of a tall but wrinkled and sagging 64-year-old man?that's me?standing at various gala events, his arm wrapped around a stunning woman with glowing orange skin and beautiful platinum- highlighted hair. A bold woman, squeezed into a dress with a plunging neckline so low her enormous breasts seem almost ready to leap out and scream, "Hey world?look at us! We are married to a famous man we saw in Die Hard 2 when we were in college!"
That's her, ladies and gentlemen. That's my wife. Yes, we are actually married.
If elected, I pledge that same woman?who is a full six years younger than my eldest son?will be by my side at all state dinners, dressed to the nines, causing the Chinese delegation's jaws to drop in amazement at her gravity-defying rack.
This is my solemn vow to all Americans.
I am aware of the critics who doubt my ability to deliver on this promise. "What about Jackie Kennedy?" they ask. "Wasn't she a hotter first lady?" If all America cares about is hotness from the neck up, then yes. Though Jackie looked good in a pillbox hat, she never possessed that I-have-obvious-father-issues sort of hotness the people of this country appreciate so deeply. Go on, close your eyes and try picturing Jackie Kennedy on the cover of some magazine spilling out of a bikini. You can't do it, can you? Now try the same mental experiment with Mrs. Fred. The results speak for themselves.
I say America deserves hotter.
I am a man of simple conservative values, values I learned sitting around the kitchen table with my grandfather. It was there, at the age of 9, that he told me, "Boy, one day, you will find true love with a woman who will be born in about 15 years. Promise Jesus that when you marry her in your late 50s you will be true."
I intend to honor that promise.
In my many years in Hollywood and Washington, I've been with country-western singers, actresses, and models. America, I even once saw Nicole Kidman's bush when I accidentally walked into her trailer on the set of Days of Thunder, in which I played the role of Big John. But despite it all, I've grown to value and cherish my wife more than any starfucker I've ever known.
Because my wife is so much more than just a sweet slice, sweet though she may be. She is a mother who has given me two beautiful children, whom I adore, even if they do get confused sometimes and call me "Grandpa." But I know that in the Thompson household, when I ask the question, "Who's your daddy?" there is always one person I can rely on to scream out my name. This is my guarantee to you, the voters.
If you elect me as your next president, you will see this woman on TV nearly every day, jogging around the Rose Garden in tight Lycra shorts, bouncing all over the place with a figure that Americans of every stripe?from surgeons to truckers?will want to nail. Yours will be a first lady who is not only hot enough to appear in Playboy, but who might actually be willing to appear in Playboy. And if you choose me to be your next president, that is exactly what she'll do, in the November 2012 issue, guaranteeing me a second term once the public gets a good look at those truly incredible bazongas.
Thank you, and God bless America.
your vote doesn't matter as much as mine, though. it matters for quite a bit more.
by the time my primary typically comes around, the election is more or less decided... but if you're in a rural district in Iowa, you could potentially host a 1-man caucus all by yourself, and with only 10-20% of the state voting in the first state to vote, it affects the bigger picture a lot more.
I beleive Bill Clinton won his re-election without winning wither Iowa Or NH? Hell, people are saying McCain is making a resurgence and he didn't even campaign in Iowa.
Drako
Lifer
- Jun 9, 2007
- 10,697
- 161
- 106
The top two or three from each of these Cuacuses will most probably be still in the running come the Conventions.
The problem I have with these Caucuses is that the media and some people make a big deal about these, so some candidates may end up getting screwed out of potential campaign funding, effectively eliminating them from the race. All becuase of Jack Iowa or what Jill New Hampshire decides in January.
Iowa's still not forgiven for Kerry.
I'm just hoping it doesn't have the same impact in this cycle as it had in 2004, no matter who wins tonight.
I'm just hoping it doesn't have the same impact in this cycle as it had in 2004, no matter who wins tonight.
Hey now, Kerry and Edwards came in at 38 and 32 percent. If you were rooting for Dean, well he pretty much took himself out of that race! So quit blaming us! Besides, most candidates these days raise plenty of money before our caucus even happens to have plenty of time to campaign elsewhere.
ScottFern
Diamond Member
- Oct 23, 2002
- 3,629
- 2
- 76
I think Ron Paul can really have a surprise showing of possibly 2nd or 3rd place tonight. Seems most of his meet up groups and grass roots organizers are getting a lot of people out to the Republican Caucus.
I can only hope he surprises everyone tonight!
I can only hope he surprises everyone tonight!
SandEagle
Lifer
- Aug 4, 2007
- 16,809
- 13
- 0
^ check out this larry king cnn poll: Who would you vote for in the Iowa caucus?
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
Why are we supposed to care so much about what some backward state full of yokels thinks? We are not an agrarian society anymore, why does a backward state like this get so much attention and power?
- Jun 11, 2004
- 4,359
- 1
- 76
Here is a link to real time results by county.
OP UPDATED.
Streaming Results.
This link is Wicked-Sick!
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OP UPDATED.
Streaming Results.
This link is Wicked-Sick!
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Yeah as others have said..i don't get the Iowa thing. I was watching Chris Matthews right now, and instead of talking about the issues or the candidates positions are, they are talking about if Obama loses, or if Mitt Loses, should they just give up or do they have a chance at all. Its one state...I don't give a shit what Iowa thinks. If the media didn't make it out to be such a big deal with the polls and everything, people would just vote on how they felt...like the way it should be...
I hate our political system sometimes...well...most of the times.
I hate our political system sometimes...well...most of the times.
- Jun 11, 2004
- 4,359
- 1
- 76
You know I loved Chris Matthews and many political programs.
I'm the type of geek that curls up with a bag of popcorn to watch the Mclaughlin group on pbs with my girlfriend every Friday night.
Ron Paul has ruined that for me.
It's sort of like war. People find it very interesting and entertaining...until they experience it.
Then they comprehend the truth of war.
What are you saying, that you use to be ok watching those kind of shows, but now you know they are full of it?
Lemon law
Lifer
- Nov 6, 2005
- 20,984
- 3
- 0
We know its the Silly season when sirjonk comes up with the following gem from Sir Fred---If Elected, I Will Have The Hottest First Lady In U.S. History
By Sen. Fred Thompson
Presidential Candidate.
Personally, I think its a very close race between Sir Fred Thompson and Sir Dennis Kuninich. No damn doubt about it, both girls are red hot. Now if I can just persuade both candidates to lend me their wives for awhile, I personally pledge to put them to the ugly Lemon test and report back to his forum of which gal is the fairest in the land. Which gal's kiss can turn me into a handsome prince?
By Sen. Fred Thompson
Presidential Candidate.
Personally, I think its a very close race between Sir Fred Thompson and Sir Dennis Kuninich. No damn doubt about it, both girls are red hot. Now if I can just persuade both candidates to lend me their wives for awhile, I personally pledge to put them to the ugly Lemon test and report back to his forum of which gal is the fairest in the land. Which gal's kiss can turn me into a handsome prince?
SSSnail
Lifer
- Nov 29, 2006
- 17,458
- 83
- 86
Who would you vote for in the Iowa caucus?
Joe Biden 1% 57
Rudy Giuliani 1% 60
Hillary Rodham Clinton 6% 378
Mike Huckabee 1% 99
Chris Dodd 0% 8
Duncan Hunter 0% 5
John Edwards 3% 211
Alan Keyes 0% 8
Mike Gravel 0% 16
John McCain 1% 52
Dennis Kucinich 2% 138
Ron Paul 79% 5335
Barack Obama 4% 300
Mitt Romney 1% 44
Bill Richardson 0% 23
Fred Thompson 0% 26
Total Votes: 6760
This is not a scientific poll
Online polls and actual real world polls with parameters and statisticans conducting them are two entirely different things.
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