Super Tuesday Results

[ewdotson]

Yes, exactly. If you want serious change in America the people you should probably be talking to are Joe Manchin and Doug Jones as no matter what Democrat wins the presidency they are the guys you are going to need to convince.

Well, note that Jones is up for re-election this year. So it's all too likely that he'll wind up being replaced by Sessions or a Tommy Tuberville who's gone full Trump-remora.

 

[Blackjack200]

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Why turn something that could be a positive into a negative?
Why not say I like Warrens planning skills but if you want healthcare and billionaires to be held accountable Bernie is the obvious choice without Warren.

It might surprise you to learn that I am not a Sanders surrogate, nor are these messages intended to be part of his campaign. I personally would never do well in politics, I obviously don't have the temper for it. IRL I've found Warren supporters to be some of the most dislikeable, self-absorbed people in the Democratic party. I much prefer Biden supporters (even though their choice of candidate vexes me).

 

[HomerJS]

Entities outside the Democratic Party advocating for Bernie...

Trump
Republican Party
Fox News
The Russians

What does that tell you?

 

[dank69]

Medicare's lower reimbursement rates guaranty that Medicare will be cheaper than private insurance. You'll get a plan with no deductibles, which for private insurance is a platinum plan, for less than the cost of a bronze plan that has massive deductibles. Private insurance cannot compete and will eventually go under or be relegated to a niche of selling cadillac plans for executives. Even if the repugs somehow passed a healthcare voucher that you could apply to any insurance of your choice, consumers will still choose Medicare because it's a better value.

A public option will eventually lead to MFA. It's inevitable.

Like I said above, you cannot do catastrophic insurance under current ACA regs, because all medical insurance policies have to cover preventive care free of deductibles.

Private insurance pays more to medical providers than does Medicare and they also have to turn a profit. I don't see how the insurance companies can compete. At the very least, they're going to lose the majority of their current total market share.

My concern is that most providers will refuse to accept Medicare because private insurance pays more. Then nobody wants Medicare because their choice of doctors is so limited.

 

[Blackjack200]

Elisabeth Warren is a wolf in sheep's clothing? Her supporters are generally terrible people? WTF is wrong with you?

Yeah, I must be crazy. Let's see who's behind that Super PAC when they're required to file. As I understand it, Persist PAC must reveal its donors on March 20.

 

[evident]

Im fired up for Joe. He can certainly take down trump, especially with bloomberg's advertising and messaging to assist him.,

 

[LurchFrinky]

Entities outside the Democratic Party advocating for Bernie...

Trump
Republican Party
Fox News
The Russians

What does that tell you?

Isn't that just one entity?

 

[Blackjack200]

Speaking of markets. Some on the business channels are calling todays market rise a Biden bump.

Last I saw Health Care Insurers are up 8-10%. Good for them!

 

[woolfe9998]

My concern is that most providers will refuse to accept Medicare because private insurance pays more. Then nobody wants Medicare because their choice of doctors is so limited.

Then why isn't that happening already? 91% currently take Medicare.

There Is No Shortage Of Doctors Willing To Take Medicare Patients

Despite widespread claims that doctors are fleeing Medicare, more than 9 in 10 still accept new Medicare patients and fewer than 1 percent have quit the program. The vast majority of seniors have regular access to a doctor and can find a physician when they need one. And Medicare patients [...]

www.forbes.com

The fact is, Medicare reimbursement rates are plenty profitable (not Medicaid though), which is why they're taking it now. If 10's of millions of people are suddenly buying Medicare, I don't see many doctors excluding such a high percentage of their patient base.

 

[alcoholbob]

Last I saw Health Care Insurers are up 8-10%. Good for them!

Yep good time to get back into health care stocks.

 

[nakedfrog]

Seriously? I honestly have no idea who votes for this guy.

Seems like older people, basically. And since they turn out in higher numbers...

 

[nakedfrog]

Entities outside the Democratic Party advocating for Bernie...

Trump
Republican Party
Fox News
The Russians

What does that tell you?

They'll do whatever will cause dissent within their opposition?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The voters have an 85% say in it. The superdelegates are the other 15%. If a candidate wins over voters by a wide enough margin, which they usually do, then in fact, the superdelegates have no say in it.

The electoral college is not a "fix" either. It's a structural problem in our system that dates back 200 years and which was not originally intended to produce an electoral advantage to one political party in the 21st century. Still not a "fix."

One key difference between the two, however, is that primaries are run by political parties, which are not governmental organizations. These parties can make their own rules. They don't have to even give the voters 85% of the say. There hasn't always even been primary voting.

Another thing which is getting tiresome is that I know even if Bernie loses the popular vote and the bulk of ordinary delegates his supporters are still going to say it's a fix. Because it's exactly what they did in 2016. It's one thing that Trumpers, Bernie Bros and Paulbots have in common. If their candidate loses, it's always a fix.

The voters have an 85%? The EC indeed isn't a fix because that's Constitutional. In the case of the DNC it is 100% of what they allow. Now you can justify things any way you like but I as a voter for a Democrat candidate who has the plurality with me can have that taken away.

As far as not being governmental organizations, that's a distinction without a difference in this case because the Parties ARE government, at least the force that tells everyone else what to do and the party members, the voters to go eff themselves.

Parties need to be torn down and ripped out by the roots but they are in fact our masters and would never allow it.

But please no one ever complain about what happens to us as subjects nor claim that this is a functional republic anymore, if it ever has been. The representatives put in office don't even need to be selected but can be appointed.

So we can skip voting, vote for one candidate in which there was no final say in reality vs the other appointed by God.

What a fucked up hobson's choice, but at least I get to pick my master over the other in the general.

 

[skyking]

It might surprise you to learn that I am not a Sanders surrogate, nor are these messages intended to be part of his campaign. I personally would never do well in politics, I obviously don't have the temper for it. IRL I've found Warren supporters to be some of the most dislikeable, self-absorbed people in the Democratic party. I much prefer Biden supporters (even though their choice of candidate vexes me).

we can ill afford to toss people into the "deplorables" bucket.

 

[dank69]

Then why isn't that happening already? 91% currently take Medicare.

There Is No Shortage Of Doctors Willing To Take Medicare Patients

Despite widespread claims that doctors are fleeing Medicare, more than 9 in 10 still accept new Medicare patients and fewer than 1 percent have quit the program. The vast majority of seniors have regular access to a doctor and can find a physician when they need one. And Medicare patients [...]

www.forbes.com

The fact is, Medicare reimbursement rates are plenty profitable (not Medicaid though), which is why they're taking it now. If 10's of millions of people are suddenly buying Medicare, I don't see many doctors excluding such a high percentage of their patient base.

Maybe I was duped by the widespread claims that doctors are fleeing Medicare.

 

[compuwiz1]

Im fired up for Joe. He can certainly take down trump, especially with bloomberg's advertising and messaging to assist him.,

If you believe that, sincerely, you might need a bucket for your tears on election day. I don't see any such thing happening. Biden and Sanders are probably the easiest for Trump to beat. I felt Bloomberg, or Warren might have been the ones who could beat him, but unfortunately, they failed to gain traction.

 

[dank69]

If you believe that, sincerely, you might need a bucket for your tears on election day. I don't see any such thing happening. Biden and Sanders are probably the easiest for Trump to beat.

Maybe you should #teabagtag this post for future reference.

 

[compuwiz1]

Maybe you should #teabagtag this post for future reference.

Hey, If I turn out to be wrong, remind me, and I'll humbly come back and eat my words.

 

[interchange]

When I used to handle injury litigation, I spent vast amounts of time pouring over people's medical bills. I could see that for a given procedure, say a surgery, if the full fee-for-service rate was say, $100,000, then the private insurance is paying like $38,000, while Medicare is paying like $23,000 for the same service. Medicaid is even lower than that.

Medicaid is definitely a significant cut in most instances. I'm not sure from your data if that reflects the money that actually changed hands when comparing private insurance versus Medicare.

 

[Muse]

That is hardly an indicator of anything

Well, who votes for someone they think can't win? Some people, sure. Plenty of people voted for Biden because they think he has the better chance of winning in Nov.

 

[Muse]

This. Obamacare ended up being 'meh" because it wasnt fully implemented as intended. It was a half ass measure screwed up by republican hands. Sometimes you have to just go all in. No half measures to be tampered with.

I have thought for years that Obamacare was Medicare-for-all beta 1.0. Figured we'd eventually get For All version 3.1, a winner.

 

[HomerJS]

If you believe that, sincerely, you might need a bucket for your tears on election day. I don't see any such thing happening. Biden and Sanders are probably the easiest for Trump to beat. I felt Bloomberg, or Warren might have been the ones who could beat him, but unfortunately, they failed to gain traction.

Even if Bloomberg made it you still would have voted for the corrupt racist dirtbag.

 

[hal2kilo]

Well, who votes for someone they think can't win? Some people, sure. Plenty of people voted for Biden because they think he has the better chance of winning in Nov.

The big Mo is everything in political elections.

 

[Muse]

The big Mo is everything in political elections.

Motivation?

 

[hal2kilo]

Motivation?

Momentum. Once Clyburn put out the appeal, and SC flipped hard over, it snowballed.