Super Tuesday Results

[Bitek]

Which is just sad, because his entire schtick is "Remember Obama? I was there too!"
He brings nothing to the table other than "I can beat Trump!" and that's not real convincing when he's so uninspiring.
I don't believe he would have won in 2016 either.

Blue collar Joe from Scranton PA would have won PA.

Hillary was awful and just barely lost it.

In the meantime bucks/mont around Philly is turning blue and Conner Lamb won in Pittsburg.
Just not got to lose pensatucky too bad.


Running a socialist promising to raise their taxes and shut down their jobs was doomed.

 

[woolfe9998]

What fix though?

Apparently, one that the voters in 10 states yesterday were in on.

 

[mect]

The timing of the dropouts is telling. As Party Faithful they put the DNC first which helps Joe. That along with the "not Boomers" not turning out hurts Bernie. If Bernie is ahead then we'll have a contested convention and the "insignificant" 16% who "are no different than other voters" will decide in favor of Biden, or so I expect.

Meh, even if the fix is in I'll vote for Biden but for goodness sake no virtue signaling.

While I'll vote for Biden over Trump, in addition to a lot of his politics I am also concerned with what appears to be a declining mental capacity. We might have a debate where neither candidate can form a coherent thought.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm now for the old geezer revolution as I'm now for Biden. My hopes for a gay candidate to spark a revolution fell flat. And my support for the stiff revolution candidate failed (in reference to Bloomberg's personality.) And it's just sarcasm with the geezer term, I do hope Biden wins in November. And I realize old geezer is a redundant term but most people have been using it for decades so.

Look at the good news, a new generation of geezers will be in the 2024 race.

 

[soulcougher73]

You're delusional if you think that's going to benefit the things you want politically. Well I'd hope you wouldn't blade them, but sorry those are the people to blame, as are you if you're taking that bullshit dumbass attitude. That's exactly the problem. Can't get things you want your way, so fuck everything, right, its all shit anyways, so just throw up your hands and pout and vote/don't vote out of spite. Grow up.

Multiparty will not do jack shit to resolve the issues that are happening. Do I need to repeat how the exact same problems are happening in countries that have multiparty systems? Because it is, and it has happened before, and it will continue to happen if people keep losing their minds and everyone else just throwing up their hands and saying that they'll just not be involved then because everything is shit. Guess why its shit? Because you're helping let it be shit by having such a broken ass shit view and then actively supporting fucking shitheads espousing such shit views.

Not everything in life fits into a 2 party system. Hell for lots of people neither party is even close to what they want. You need to incentivize people to get out and vote. If that means more parties, than so be it. People are probably tired of playing the boring "lesser of two evils" bullshit the 2 party system panders to. People need enthusiasm about a candidate/party. Dem establishment and GOP are pretty boring and haven't done shit in years. I havent seen one pro Biden supporter yet. "Oh he's fine if that is all they will give me" . Fuck that shit. Time for some real fucking change.

 

[fskimospy]

Apparently, one that the voters in 10 states yesterday were in on.

As far as I can tell the 'establishment fixers' are also known as 'black people'.

 

[IronWing]

Indeed she is. She also lied about rejecting Super PAC support. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. A total vanity candidate. That's why I don't care as much as other Sanders supporters about her dropping out. Her supporters are not going to Sanders. I don't even think they would vote for him in the GE. They're generally terrible people.

And you whine that people falsely accuse Bernie Bros of being attack dogs. Get a mirror.

 

[woolfe9998]

Bloomberg out, also endorsing Biden.

But now Warren campaign says it's "re-assessing" her path forward. Meaning I expect her to drop and endorse Bernie.

That will certainly simplify things.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What fix though?

Well, it's like I said. If Bernie comes in as the voter favorite but not enough to make it in the first run then the superdelegates will likely give the victory to Biden.

In this case, the popular vote would be disregarded for the runnerup. The fix would be in to deny the voter.

It's a more straightforward "solution" for the Party than the Electoral College was for Trump.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Bloomberg out, also endorsing Biden.

But now Warren campaign says it's "re-assessing" her path forward. Meaning I expect her to drop and endorse Bernie.

That will certainly simplify things.

She already burned her Bernie bridge - if anything she will crowd around the establishment and endorse Biden.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Your system is fucked. Even when it works as intended, it still disenfranchises a huge portion, possibly a majority, of the population.

Multiparty won't unfuck anything, so what's your fucking point? Multiparty countries are having the same fucking problems too.

Your revolution won't happen without bloodshed, so you'd better be willing to put yours on the line, or else realize you're part of the problem.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

No parties is the solution. Instead candidates are written in and a minimum threshold must be met for their name to be on a non party ballot.

Every candidate would have a list of affiliated party history, who financed them and more.

Donations go to a general pool to be divided among candidates with a higher proportion going to top candidates, but not where they have a crushing advantage over all others.

People will have to choose by criteria other than party backing.


That's a start.

I would like to see all the news shows stop putting D or R next to whoever is on TVs name.
Just refer to them by their name & title. Leave all party stuff off.
Not a fix but I feel it would be an improvement.

 

[Perknose]

You should check the video above. In it he’s slurring and jerking, then he stops in the middle of one sentence and picks up in the middle of a totally different one and doesn’t even seem to notice.

That is very concerning from a brain health/dementia standpoint, no?

I'd love to think Trump is senile, but what I DO think is that any one of us who had to respond, over and over again, in real time, could compile a litany of mistakes and gaffes. Obama was almost sui generis in this regard. As a black man in America, he was ever vigilant in his responses . . . hence those easily parodied pauses of his.

 

[IronWing]

Did someone drop you guys on your head? This isn't up for debate.
She claimed to be Native American.
She is not Native American.
She has been publicly called out by ACTUAL Native American groups and told that she isn't native american.
Tons of well established media (left leaning as well) have confirmed this.

The facts: Elizabeth Warren and her Native American ties

Update: In October 2018, Sen. Elizabeth Warren released a DNA report showing she has Native American ancestry. We asked

www.politifact.com

Elizabeth Warren again is pressed on past claims of Native American heritage

More than 200 Cherokees and other Native Americans urged Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren to fully retract her past claims to being Native.

www.latimes.com

Trump challenged Warren to take a a DNA test. She did. The test showed she had some native American ancestry. Trump promised to donate to charity if the test came back showing native American ancestry. He failed to make good on his word. Trump lied and welshed.

IMHO, Warren shouldn't have taken Trump up on his deal as he was already a known liar.

We had a whole thread on this issue. Trump's challenge wasn't "Prove you qualify for tribal membership", it was, "do a DNA test."

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I would like to see all the news shows stop putting D or R next to whoever is on TVs name.
Just refer to them by their name & title. Leave all party stuff off.
Not a fix but I feel it would be an improvement.

I said the same thing - but at the voting ballot level. At minimal people would have to do SOME ounce of research to at minimal know their candidates. Also no cell phones for looking it up at the ballot.


.... Or Americans being as stupid as they are would just vote for whoever they thought had the craziest name lol

 

[woolfe9998]

I think what could happen I that event is some private care company will target the least likely to need expensive care and they’ll all jump ship leaving Medicare with all the expensive people to cover.

If what you mean by this is that you think private insurance will offer catastrophic plans to younger people, they aren't allowed under current ACA regs. All plans have to cover preventive care free of deductibles at a minimum.

With Medicare reimbursing doctors at such a lower rate, bottom line is I don't see anywhere private insurance could compete expect maybe way at the high end where they could offer perks not available with Medicare for a steep price.

 

[interchange]

Pretty clear the Democrat establishment is very fearful of Bernie being the nominee. How much of that fear operating in the present has to do with likelihood of downing Trump vs. disrupting the integrity of the party is not clear to me. Sadly, I feel better about Bernie on those fronts than I do Joe, but like the economy discussion there's no way to definitively measure accuracy of that position.

What I am most upset of is the prospect of an election between 2 people who, if reasonable people were in position to decide based on the immediate good of the country, would warrant removal through the 25th amendment. I'm definitely not picking Trump if that's the case, but if Trump were simply the Republican equivalent of Biden I'd definitely be voting for someone else even if a write-in.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I said the same thing - but at the voting ballot level. At minimal people would have to do SOME ounce of research to at minimal know their candidates. Also no cell phones for looking it up at the ballot.


.... Or Americans being as stupid as they are would just vote for whoever they thought had the craziest name lol

I’d be good with that, sort of though with the Primaries.

 

[repoman0]

Indeed she is. She also lied about rejecting Super PAC support. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. A total vanity candidate. That's why I don't care as much as other Sanders supporters about her dropping out. Her supporters are not going to Sanders. I don't even think they would vote for him in the GE. They're generally terrible people.

"Wahhhh, everyone who doesn't like my candidate is a terrible person!"

- Average crybaby Bernie Bro

 

[nakedfrog]

And you whine that people falsely accuse Bernie Bros of being attack dogs. Get a mirror.

Yes, he needs to be aware that he's part of the problem

 

[Fanatical Meat]

If what you mean by this is that you think private insurance will offer catastrophic plans to younger people, they aren't allowed under current ACA regs. All plans have to cover preventive care free of deductibles at a minimum.

With Medicare reimbursing doctors at such a lower rate, bottom line is I don't see anywhere private insurance could compete expect maybe way at the high end where they could offer perks not available with Medicare for a steep price.

No I mean private insurance would cherry pick the least expensive (best customers) and offer similar but slightly cheaper insurance.
This is assuming Medicare for all has some sort of cost assigned to it.

 

[Brainonska511]

Indeed she is. She also lied about rejecting Super PAC support. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. A total vanity candidate.

Unilateral disarmament seems like a pretty good way to handicap your election. Money in politics is a big problem, but good luck fixing it it if you don't get elected. And technically speaking, you can't control a Super PAC...

We could go round and round with what people want to call lies (cough: reneging on transparency with medical records after a heart attack)

 

[pmv]

He didn't have an answer. At all.

It was a whatabout Trump DUH-version. My statement still remains, Warren lied about being native american wrongly to try and win points instead of using her proper race. It is the exact same thing that Rachel Dolezol did of falsely claiming to be a minority.


If you think 1/1024 means you're an Indian - then everyone here should have no problem claiming you're black since every single person here has some African ancestry.

The fucking olympic sized obstacles you guys jump over in order to your defend your people is just jaw dropping at this point.

Doesn't seem that way to me. She bought into some slightly-self-exoticising family myth and lacked a bit of common-sense in not considering it more skeptically before talking about it (us non-politicians can get away with that, she should have been more careful).

It was silly of her, certainly an embarrassment, but hardly on a par with, say, boasting of sexually assaulting women.

I bet lots of families have such myths that they believe because it makes them sound more interesting, but never bother to look into to see if they are actually true (did I ever mention my great-great-uncle who was eaten by a crocodile?).

 

[Perknose]

Look at the good news, a new generation of geezers will be in the 2024 race.

Perknose 2024!

 

[woolfe9998]

This right here is a good sign.

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-03-04/voter-turnout-surges-in-several-key-super-tuesday-states-boosting-joe-biden

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY voters showed up in record numbers Tuesday in Utah and Virginia and exceeded 2016 turnout levels in several states in a sign of elevated enthusiasm that could spell trouble for President Donald Trump in the general election.