Super Tuesday Results

[dank69]

That shows DEMOCRATS in favor of them. I generally agree that Americans are far more in favor of Sanders-like policies than most people think, although he would be politically smarter to make his 'medicare for all' into a Mayor Pete style 'medicare for all who want it'.

Do you think M4AWWI would be able to successfully compete with private insurance?

 

[Blackjack200]

The with us or against us rhetoric of the entire campaign. I voted for Bernie in the TX primary but am not blind to the negatives he allows to flourish.

This is ridiculous, his campaign message was totally inclusive. He didn't run a single negative ad.

 

[mect]

That shows DEMOCRATS in favor of them. I generally agree that Americans are far more in favor of Sanders-like policies than most people think, although he would be politically smarter to make his 'medicare for all' into a Mayor Pete style 'medicare for all who want it'.

The problem with medicare for all who want it is that it is subject to the same issues facing public education right now, the defunding of the program in favor of the private sector under the guise that the private sector will provide competition. That has been a disaster for public education, and my prediction is it would be a disaster for medicare for all who want it.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Crazy that we as a society insist on voting in people that are a few years away from being in a nursing home. They had perfectly good candidates that weren't 80 yet they are going to go with a senile Biden. Guy has the crazy eyes. Totally incoherent. Klobuchar was my favorite Dem candidate btw. Very smart, experience, realistic views and policies.

 

[fskimospy]

The problem with medicare for all who want it is that it is subject to the same issues facing public education right now, the defunding of the program in favor of the private sector under the guise that the private sector will provide competition. That has been a disaster for public education, and my prediction is it would be a disaster for medicare for all who want it.

I'm not sure I understand why that would be the case, if anything I imagine Medicare would eventually eat the private insurance sector. You make it so if you want to pay (or if your employer wants to pay) for private insurance out of pocket then you can do so, otherwise you join Medicare. There would be no public funding of any private insurance options.

 

[fskimospy]

Crazy that we as a society insist on voting in people that are a few years away from being in a nursing home. They had perfectly good candidates that weren't 80 yet they are going to go with a senile Biden. Guy has the crazy eyes. Totally incoherent. Klobuchar was my favorite Dem candidate btw. Very smart, experience, realistic views and policies.

What are your feelings on Trump's pretty obvious public signs of dementia? If videos like this don't concern you, you're in denial. This man's brain is not well.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1208970669804969990

 

[woolfe9998]

I think what he's trying to say is, neither of them will change anything for the better for the average American (especially the working and poor). Of course Trump is worse but they're different sides of the same coin. If you can't see that, you're hopeless yourself like the establishment dems.

No democrat is going to pass legislation because we have a filibuster in the Senate. That includes Sanders. So the argument about Sanders being the great change agent while someone like Biden is status quo is nonsense.

Most importantly, if you do not understand that Trump is so much worse than any status quo democrat then you do not really see Trump and that is something I can't help you with.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

What are your feelings on Trump's pretty obvious public signs of dementia?

I haven't noticed it tbh. Definitely not on the level of Biden. I think he's generally pretty sharp and witty at this point. He's going to wipe the floor with Biden.

 

[K1052]

This is ridiculous, his campaign message was totally inclusive. He didn't run a single negative ad.

I doubt I'm going to convince you otherwise but after watching how his supporters interact online, how is surrogates often handle pushback, and the treatment of reporters (who arguably didn't treat his bid with the respect it deserved), plus the now exposed conduct of the campaign manager it's impossible not to catch on to the actual theme here. He's largely washed his hands of these problems so that he can capitalize on the support even as he disavows it on occasion. Policy wise I generally favor Bernie over everybody else but the conduct and tenor of his run, beyond the surface, hasn't been great and looks increasingly Trumpish in some respects.

 

[K1052]

I haven't noticed it tbh. Definitely not on the level of Biden. I think he's generally pretty sharp and witty at this point. He's going to wipe the floor with Biden.

This cannot be serious.

 

[fskimospy]

I haven't noticed it tbh. Definitely not on the level of Biden. I think he's generally pretty sharp and witty at this point. He's going to wipe the floor with Biden.

You should check the video above. In it he’s slurring and jerking, then he stops in the middle of one sentence and picks up in the middle of a totally different one and doesn’t even seem to notice.

That is very concerning from a brain health/dementia standpoint, no?

 

[Jhhnn]

He didn't have an answer. At all.

It was a whatabout Trump DUH-version. My statement still remains, Warren lied about being native american wrongly to try and win points instead of using her proper race. It is the exact same thing that Rachel Dolezol did of falsely claiming to be a minority.


If you think 1/1024 means you're an Indian - then everyone here should have no problem claiming you're black since every single person here has some African ancestry.

The fucking olympic sized obstacles you guys jump over in order to your defend your people is just jaw dropping at this point.

Or she mistakenly believed family lore taught to her as a child & repeated it. It's certainly not Trump level mendacity no matter how badly you want to both sides the situation.

 

[thilanliyan]

Crazy that we as a society insist on voting in people that are a few years away from being in a nursing home. They had perfectly good candidates that weren't 80 yet they are going to go with a senile Biden. Guy has the crazy eyes. Totally incoherent. Klobuchar was my favorite Dem candidate btw. Very smart, experience, realistic views and policies.

Now that the "communist" probably won't be the nominee, you still going to vote for Trump?

 

[eelw]

Biden is throwing bones to Sanders supporters. He’s no longer just running on continuing what he did with Obama.

In last nights speech, he announced free tuition for students that do volunteer work.

With the Bloomberg support, he will work to fight climate change beyond the Paris Climate accords.

And I really don’t get why people still saying the 18-29 Bernie Bros crowd won’t bother to vote at all. Like everyone one saw what happened in 2016 with that refusal to vote for either candidate.

 

[Indus]

Biden is throwing bones to Sanders supporters. He’s no longer just running on continuing what he did with Obama.

In last nights speech, he announced free tuition for students that do volunteer work.

With the Bloomberg support, he will work to fight climate change beyond the Paris Climate accords.

And I really don’t get why people still saying the 18-29 Bernie Bros crowd won’t bother to vote at all. Like everyone one saw what happened in 2016 with that refusal to vote for either candidate.

Unless he offers medicare for all and paid college tuition and forgiveness of college loan debt.. it's not gonna be enough.

Health care and job skills without going into debt for the rest of your life are HUGE for peeps.

 

[dainthomas]

Do you think M4AWWI would be able to successfully compete with private insurance?

Literally everyone I know absolutely hates their insurance. The only redeeming quality of private insurance is that it's better than dying broke in a gutter. And it often doesn't even prevent that.

M4AWWI would absolutely nuke the private insurance industry. Long overdue.

 

[Blackjack200]

I doubt I'm going to convince you otherwise but after watching how his supporters interact online, how is surrogates often handle pushback, and the treatment of reporters (who arguably didn't treat his bid with the respect it deserved), plus the now exposed conduct of the campaign manager it's impossible not to catch on to the actual theme here. He's largely washed his hands of these problems so that he can capitalize on the support even as he disavows it on occasion. Policy wise I generally favor Bernie over everybody else but the conduct and tenor of his run, beyond the surface, hasn't been great and looks increasingly Trumpish in some respects.

Cable news ran story after story about the mean Bernie supporters, a narrative that you're now parroting uncritically. The reason that you're not posting any specifics is that there is no real evidence of it. I think it's the perfect metaphor for what happened last night.

 

[Ken g6]

If videos like this don't concern you, you're in denial.

I think that's a bad example. Looks like Trump just remembered he was starting the wrong speech to me. Maybe because the wrong speech was in the teleprompter. Like a happy X day speech the day after X.

Trump's insistence on believing things he should know are not true does seem like a dementia symptom to me. Then again, it's surprising how many not-so-old Republicans fit that definition too.

 

[Blackjack200]

Biden is throwing bones to Sanders supporters. He’s no longer just running on continuing what he did with Obama.

In last nights speech, he announced free tuition for students that do volunteer work.

With the Bloomberg support, he will work to fight climate change beyond the Paris Climate accords.

And I really don’t get why people still saying the 18-29 Bernie Bros crowd won’t bother to vote at all. Like everyone one saw what happened in 2016 with that refusal to vote for either candidate.

We're done chewing on bones.

 

[Starbuck1975]

How many times do we need to repeat that people who voted for Trump did not do so for economic reasons? Lots of empirical research shows this.

The underlying problem is still economic

 

[soulcougher73]

And I really don’t get why people still saying the 18-29 Bernie Bros crowd won’t bother to vote at all. Like everyone one saw what happened in 2016 with that refusal to vote for either candidate.

I think this has a lot to do with what AOC said about in no other country would she and Biden be in the same party. True liberal progressives don't fit into the Dem party really. So lots refuse to vote I'd imagine. They want a party that represents them.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sanders probably wouldn't achieve them either. Push for, yes. Achieve, no.

Congress has to want "bold changes" as well. Electing Sanders would have been a symbolic thumb into their eyes, a wake up call. So it doesn't happen in 2020, just gives us time to find a younger progressive candidate for 2024.

This assumes Biden will win

 

[Brainonska511]

I appreciate that. I hope you appreciate the magnitude of what happened last night. Thousands of young Sanders volunteers across the country worked their asses off to try to nominate a candidate that at least promises to change course, and in a moment, everything was thrown back in their faces. No effort has ever been made by the Biden camp to appeal to these progressives, instead, Biden treats them with open contempt. I think the question of "will they vote for Biden in the GE" is the wrong question. I think the question is if they will abandon electoral politics entirely. I am at a complete loss as to what one could even say to someone like that to get them to continue. Again, impossible to overstate this: they were not out-worked, they did not lose to a superior campaign, they did not lose a better argument. they lost to candidate that didn't even bother campaigning at all.

Those voters need to play the long game - I get it: it sucks when things don't go your way and knuckle draggers are slowing progress, but you have to keep pushing. If you want political power in this country, you need to be a voting block. If you don't vote or don't make your voice heard, people will walk all over you. Why do you think NIMBYism is so successful?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Trump who was handed an economic gem made that disparity worse yet you felt no need to criticize.

The myth of tribalist economic recovery

Biden was in office when the country was in economic meltdown and that was first priority. Also Republicans gave them nothing.

Same as the Democrats did during the Bush years.

What he gets done is going to depend on the makeup of Congress. If the Senate turns Democrat Joe will not have excuses.

How did that work out in 2016?

Clearly voting has consequences

The candidate factors into this as well

BTW - You role as a resident troll is not unnoticed.

Yes, concern squad is often concerned by my opinion when not busy with their buckets and straw.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

We're done chewing on bones.

Good. Now time to put your big boy pants on and get those things you desire with your own two hands.