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WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: eskimospy

If you aren't patriotic and militant, you must be a fool.

Everyone knows this. It cannot be denied.

I'm glad you have come to realize the truth. Those who dislike the flag represent foolishness. Only a fool would hate that which symbolizes the country he is living in. Everyone knows this.

Who is American and hates the USA flag? Nobody! Just the annoyance it becomes when people make a fetish out of it.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: tweaker2
What McLucas failed to recognize is that the other people in her office had every right to take offense at her "raising the flag" without considering their feelings about it first.

Personally, I wouldn't mind. But how would McLucas feel if someone had displayed a nice big Rebel flag on the wall behind their desk, or a Black Fist, Swastika (Buddhist or otherwise), or a flag of their Home State, Civic Organization, religious denomination, home Country, etc?

It's not so much that just because it so happens to be the Stars and Stripes she proudly displayed that no one should take offense. It has nothing to do with being obligingly patriotic. That's just not her call because other people's feelings are just as important as hers.

Uh, dude... it's an American flag, in America.

But not a Nazi flag in Nazi Germany where a citizen would be shot for "disrespect"? Or is it?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: marincounty
This is America. The corporation owns you and everything at your work. You can be fired at any time, for any reason. The corporation decides what you wear and when you work. The corporation owns your computer and everything that passes through it. Of course the corporation can tell you what flag you can fly and how big it can be.

Why are righties questioning what the corporation is doing? This country is based on the rule of law, and the law is all on the side of the corporation.

None of that is correct.

Anyway, the company is allowed to say what can and can't be shown. That's no injustice. I have a problem with system where another employee could sue the company/flag owner because they are offended by the flag, but that didn't happen.

I have to say that I don't like the fact that the flag was placed on the ground.

Also, I disagree with many of jpeyton's viewpoints, but I don't see how he's anti-American. What's your criteria for being a true American? I'm a fairly far-right southern boy, but until he actively works against the government and its constitution, he's just an American with a different opinion as far as I'm concerned.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html

So it was about the size and had nothing to do with what it stood for just like a lot of us suspected. I guess all the red assed pseudo patriot Flag Wavers got it wrong this time.

Dont you think if that were REALLY the reason, they wouldnt have allowed her to re-hang it? Someone in her office is anti-american flag and was offended. They are using the size now as an excuse do to the media backlash of the story.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html

So it was about the size and had nothing to do with what it stood for just like a lot of us suspected. I guess all the red assed pseudo patriot Flag Wavers got it wrong this time.

Eh, that's clearly a convenient excuse should the hospital be looking for one. We still don't know the whole story. The facts (as presented so far) do not indicate size was the issue. Not that it matters, you don't have the right to do whatever you want at a place of private employment be it hoist a flag or even putting a plant on your desk.
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html

So it was about the size and had nothing to do with what it stood for just like a lot of us suspected. I guess all the red assed pseudo patriot Flag Wavers got it wrong this time.

possibly, but c'mon... to get so bent out of shape about a flag size is nutz.

The coworker, who emigrated from Africa 14 years ago, was apparently so bothered by the display that a complaint was filed with upper management.

she couldn't even talk to her about it? maybe go "hey... that's a little .. um.. big. can we get one a little smaller?" no.. she got her panties in a bunch and ran crying to upper management to bitch about it.

 

jpeyton

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Symbol worship is a popular pastime in our country.
 

trenchfoot

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Well, thanks everyone for expressing their opinions about my post in this thread. I was pleasantly surprized and amazed at the many different agenda's that were inappropriately applied to it.

And let me first apologize at this time for not explaining my position in such a way so as to not mistakenly bait the well meaning but misguided patriotic flag wavers off of their front porch rocking chairs in order to lay their righteous but mislaid indignation at my feet.

Like I said in my first post, "I wouldn't mind" her putting up the flag on the office wall. And the reason why I wouldn't have minded is that, if true, and it not being a clever counterpunching afterthought on her part, I would be quite sympathetic toward her personal feelings for doing so, of which it has absolutely nothing to do with how patriotic I am or not and it has absolutely nothing to do with me attempting to be politically correct.

In my previous post, I was viewing this incident from a practical and pragmatic point of view; nothing more, nothing less, the point of which I thought I made clearly, but "apparently" not, as it seems others have used my words to wave Ol' Glory in my face.

I am a retired veteran with 26 years of active duty and reserve/guard service going all the way back from fighting charlie in Nam to participating in Desert Shield/Storm, operating out of Italy, Saudi and Turkey, so I really don't have to prove how patriotic I am as my prior service speaks for itself.

Politically correct? Me? Sympathetic, sure...Considerate of other people's feelings? Of course. Politically correct? I'm too old and seen too much to waste even a single synaptic ping about crap like that. LOL.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Symbol worship is a popular pastime in our country.

Like worshipping 'The One'.
Neo? Or Jesus?

Actually both of them have a lot of similarities.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I bet nobody would say anything if the Flag wasn't 4 foot by 6 foot .. lol

Other than that.. let her display a flag..

Shut up with that... your common sense logic has no place here.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Symbol worship is a popular pastime in human civilization.


fixed it for ya....it's kind of a universal thing, not just exclusive to the US.

 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Wheezer

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Symbol worship is a popular pastime in human civilization.


fixed it for ya....it's kind of a universal thing, not just exclusive to the US.

Americans are rather impoverished with respect to national symbols. We have the flag, Uncle Sam, the eagle, and the minuteman, but not much else in the way of identity symbols. I guess it is due to the young nature of our country.

We don't even have a national dish. Cheesecake is the closest approximation there.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html
Good to hear.

I bet this company's phone have been going nuts in the last day.

The person who complained should be sent back to Africa as well. We are nice enough to take you in and this is how you repay our gratitude?
If you don't like it, you can git out!

Is Prof taking cues from South Park now?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: guyver01


Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html

So it was about the size and had nothing to do with what it stood for just like a lot of us suspected. I guess all the red assed pseudo patriot Flag Wavers got it wrong this time.

possibly, but c'mon... to get so bent out of shape about a flag size is nutz.

The coworker, who emigrated from Africa 14 years ago, was apparently so bothered by the display that a complaint was filed with upper management.

she couldn't even talk to her about it? maybe go "hey... that's a little .. um.. big. can we get one a little smaller?" no.. she got her panties in a bunch and ran crying to upper management to bitch about it.

You can tell by how out of proportion this whole topic/article is that the old bitch was probably just that.. WHY THE FUCK IS THE "EMIGRANT" status HIGHLIGHTED HERE.. You are all punks when you fall for the MSM BS

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html
Good to hear.

I bet this company's phone have been going nuts in the last day.

The person who complained should be sent back to Africa as well. We are nice enough to take you in and this is how you repay our gratitude?


Good job with your subtle racism - good ol patriot like you
 

ericlp

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What they didn't have a flag barb-q in the parking lot? What next? Are we going to start suing people because they like the flag now? This country is going down the crapper fast.

The coworker, who emigrated from Africa 14 years ago, was apparently so bothered by the display that a complaint was filed with upper management.

Maybe we can send her ass back to Africa?
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html
Good to hear.

I bet this company's phone have been going nuts in the last day.

The person who complained should be sent back to Africa as well. We are nice enough to take you in and this is how you repay our gratitude?


Good job with your subtle racism - good ol patriot like you


How is that racism? she emigrated from Africa... PER THE ARTICLE..

where would you send her? Indonesia?

sensitive much?
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: dahunan
You can tell by how out of proportion this whole topic/article is that the old bitch was probably just that.. WHY THE FUCK IS THE "EMIGRANT" status HIGHLIGHTED HERE.. You are all punks when you fall for the MSM BS

The emigrant status is probably highlighted, because, rightfully so, the author of the article is probably pissed that a foreign national came to the USA for freedom, then bitches about the flag display.

 

theflyingpig

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Originally posted by: dahunan

You can tell by how out of proportion this whole topic/article is that the old bitch was probably just that.. WHY THE FUCK IS THE "EMIGRANT" status HIGHLIGHTED HERE.. You are all punks when you fall for the MSM BS

Your outrage is hilarious. I laugh at you, dahunan.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: dahunan

You can tell by how out of proportion this whole topic/article is that the old bitch was probably just that.. WHY THE FUCK IS THE "EMIGRANT" status HIGHLIGHTED HERE.. You are all punks when you fall for the MSM BS

Your outrage is hilarious. I laugh at you, dahunan.

But.. wait.. I lol at you too.. is that a draw? :laugh:
 
Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: jonks
and the flag's back up:
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...migrant-Complains.html
Good to hear.

I bet this company's phone have been going nuts in the last day.

The person who complained should be sent back to Africa as well. We are nice enough to take you in and this is how you repay our gratitude?


Good job with your subtle racism - good ol patriot like you

Did you even read the article? She immigrated from Africa. Reading Comprehension 101 failed you.