Jewish people just assassinate the leaders of Israel as well.[/quote]
again, jewish dont assassinate in the U.S., and this thread is about racial profiling and US national security isnt it?
if you want to attack the jewish people, make another thread.
There is no singular US culture though for immigrants. We all do mix but it takes generations for that singular effect to take place with immigrants. Also, you're asking people to be familiar with hundreds of different relgions, sects, races, etc when it is easier to look at it from a POV of clothing and/or skin tone. How would it be any easier? I'm not defending the treatment of my fellow citizen, but I do think that the whole issue is quite overblown. Being a minority makes it feel as if everyone is against you...(and sometimes the ignorant are).
The Sikh people's turban looks different. This is the sort of behavior that resulted in that Sikh in the southwest getting murdered.
I'm not even sure if I've ever seen a Muslim person in the US with a Sikh like turban...maybe it's just me though.
I won't even pretend that I knew that. Thanks for the information, because I never knew that word was a slur. I thought it was just a shortening and not a pejorative term. Difference in language or geography perhaps? I never even heard that word used except on AT and in some chats.
again, jewish dont assassinate in the U.S., and this thread is about racial profiling and US national security isnt it?
if you want to attack the jewish people, make another thread.[/quote]
I'm not attacking the Jewish people. Nice try. I was simply stating that as you stated that Sikhs only murder Indian leaders. I wasn't sure if you were trying to use that as justification.
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Your cowboy hat has nothing to do with your religion here, in a country which has much pride in its religious freedoms. If you felt deeply about your religion and your cowboy hat was a significant part of it, then I bet you would wear it in India; especially if India touted religious tolerance the way we do.
I agree with what DigDug is saying: that the seemingly random picks of brown people, with a few selective credentials, from a crowd does absolutely nothing to "prevent another 9/11". I'd rather have those resources directed towards actual intelligence and undercover spy sh!t so that we can actually intercept a whole operation, not just a random "might-be"-terrorist by chance.
Well here's the thing. Because of racial profiling there were dozens and dozens of reports of people being detained, imprisoned (some for months) without charges and deported, in closed hearings. You gotta consider the issue of racial profiling outside of just this article.
Link and quoted from here
Here's an interesting read as well.
It's not a slur in the US. It's a slur in the UK. Even Pakistani-American associations in the US do not consider it a slur in the US.
after 9-11 and the terrorists beheading people left and right, to be honest let the SS question whoever they please, if i were any race and i were questioned.. i would realize that its these people who prevent more planes from coming into my campus or my airport. all you people who scream for money after something like this.. YOUR JUST GREEDY BASTARDS.. let them do their job, they obviously have a reason for the questioning, and not to mention.. you have to wonder if the kid is just an average college kid broke as h3ll and wanting money, so he "expands" the story a little bit, cant see that ive even put some of my friends past trying something of the sort.
and while we are on the topic.. if i were a solider over there.. anybody shooting towards an american solider would be looking forward to the same d4mn treatment the americans are getting over there.. forget the treaty, forget the geneva.. im not going to abide by any rules that everyone doesnt follow.
im tired of all the left wing liberals screaming about these stupid pictures our soliders took, when the opponents are taking MOVIES OF HEADS BEING CUT OFF.. get over it.. id sure as h3ll rather take a porn pic than get my head cut off on a movie for my family to see..
all you liberals.. need to get back to the old fashioned way of eye for an eye, dont let politics get in teh way what is right!
im not some racist, liberal hating biggot but come on guys.. stop crying over spilt milk, USA is on 1 team, lets not fight each other.. do you even want a SS? if so leave them alone, sometimes they make mistakes, who doesnt.. i dont see you paying someone off everytime you cut a stop sign short or get more change back from the cashier and keep it... relax, and drop it.. if you were in their shoes youd do the same thing..
oh well thats just my 2 cents, im sure ill get tons of flame replies.
and while we are on the topic.. if i were a solider over there.. anybody shooting towards an american solider would be looking forward to the same d4mn treatment the americans are getting over there.. forget the treaty, forget the geneva.. im not going to abide by any rules that everyone doesnt follow.
im tired of all the left wing liberals screaming about these stupid pictures our soliders took, when the opponents are taking MOVIES OF HEADS BEING CUT OFF.. get over it.. id sure as h3ll rather take a porn pic than get my head cut off on a movie for my family to see..
all you liberals.. need to get back to the old fashioned way of eye for an eye, dont let politics get in teh way what is right!
im not some racist, liberal hating biggot but come on guys.. stop crying over spilt milk, USA is on 1 team, lets not fight each other.. do you even want a SS? if so leave them alone, sometimes they make mistakes, who doesnt.. i dont see you paying someone off everytime you cut a stop sign short or get more change back from the cashier and keep it... relax, and drop it.. if you were in their shoes youd do the same thing..
oh well thats just my 2 cents, im sure ill get tons of flame replies.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's with that. Any Muslims I've dealt with that covered used the traditional garments. Never saw a turban...
Now, as for the Muslims I work with from Turkey, they do not cover at all. However, I do have customers/guests that cover and my neighbors before I moved covered. Coincidentally, I was involved in a situation with a Muslim guest, and she was quite upset because she felt another guest was treating her badly because of her covering. From my perspective as an outsider (this was an issue of two kids running into each other and one hurting the other) I didn't see what she was talking about(in relation to the other guest), although I have heard people use the typical slurs against Muslims...
I wish everybody could get along but it is obvious that some cultures wish to force themselves upon other cultures.
I think the entire problem with all the hate in the world today is that people associate themselves with whatever groups they feel define them.
People in all parts of the world, except the butthole extremists, fail to realize that everybody pretty much wants the same thing. To live a nice life without too much grief.
The day people realize that we all want the same thing will be a mile marker for the human race.
CF
I think the entire problem with all the hate in the world today is that people associate themselves with whatever groups they feel define them.
People in all parts of the world, except the butthole extremists, fail to realize that everybody pretty much wants the same thing. To live a nice life without too much grief.
The day people realize that we all want the same thing will be a mile marker for the human race.
CF
that article states only one hard number that has actually been researched, and that number is wrt drug use. it draws no connections to any studies regarding terrorism. IMHO without adequate statistical support, that paper is nothing more than an editorial. it means nothing to me.
There is even a distinct difference in many Americans. Blacks, Hispanics, Italians, Irish, etc. all have a distinct culture, although some not as severe as the other. There is no singular US culture for anyone in the US. There is no all encompassing culture.
I'm not sure if you saw one of my previous posts. I'm all for racial profiling, as long as it is done with respect and no extreme hassle. This would not involve having everyone know about hundreds of different religions, sects, and races and what not. They would have to receive adequate training and learning so that they could tell the difference between a Sikh and anyone else.
The problem is that most of hte people in these positions are idiots.
This would also mean that we cannot slack off of people that aren't racially profiled. We'd also have to start racial profiling programs elsewhere in other situations, if they are not already in existence.
In interested in knowing what the US can do that would be acceptable to non-whites. Don't thousands of muslims fly everyday without hassle? Isn't it a handful that ever get bothered? I can't say how I'd feel since I'm not in any of you all's shoes. I just know that I'd be a bit miffed, but I'd also have to see the whole picture before decrying something and taking it personally.
So what can we do? Gooberlx2 -- Gave some ideas, but they are already in use(focus on intel and undercover OPs). What do we do to prevent an attack right now from anyone who mightbe on our soil?
So what can we do? Gooberlx2 -- Gave some ideas, but they are already in use(focus on intel and undercover OPs). What do we do to prevent an attack right now from anyone who mightbe on our soil?
We are over there occupying the land of the Arabs and you want them to give us roses and candy? What do you expect them to do? You think the soldiers there are treating the Arabs kindly... have you not heard about the scandals at the prisons there?
You saw a few guys get their head chopped off (2 people) well they saw thousands die, thousands lose their legs ... I wonder how they feel...
If you are so against them go join the Military and go fight and kill a mom and dad and some innocent children.. it will make you feel better
It seems not all people think it is a racial slur (depending on the area I guess). It could be because these people don't have any contact with the culture, and don?t realize it?s not an accepted word among south asians. I guess you can get away with it in some US cities, but it?s nearly suicide to use that here in Toronto and (like someone said) UK (and other areas with a lot of south asians).
I am also brown and am offended by that word, but I won?t go in to a hissy fit if people here use it. I know people also use Japs to describe Japanese people, even though many have pointed out that it is not a polite word to use.
Yeah. When you introduce human error and bias in to the mix it is going to create cries of inequality. I don't know what to think about racial profiling right now. I see its usage to some degree, but the detriment of it can't be ignored.
No they are uneducated because they follow broad generalizations, backed by extremely loose factual information made clear by their extreme lack of knowledge of other cultures, which forms part of a diverse education that provides a balanced viewpoint in a discussion such as this.
Well, Bush used it in a speech once when he was talking about India/Pakistan
It caused a little ruckus over in the UK because they thought he was using it as a slur. Even Pakistani-American groups dismissed it as not being a slur here in the US.A significant number of people will probably always complain. If it makes them feel alienated, targetted, 'un-American' or so on, a lot of people will complain about it.
But it's not as if it's the end of the world. As long as racial profiling is expanded to other areas (not just terrorism) and done with respect, I would have no problem with it.
that is a ridiculous statement. u should be ashamed to be you.
edit: i admit some wrong things happen in war. but its war. you dont see U.S. soldiers purposely beheading innocent civilians on TV
Ignorant people like you should be banned instantly off this board.
We are not "occupying the land of the arabs" you stupid dork. We are helping them to make their miserable country less f-ed up.
Your comments would be more welcome on a pro-jihad website.
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