"Sikh student detained by Secret Service"

[DigDug]

You are saying that racial profiling is ok as long as it doesn't affect you? What will you say the day when it DOES affect you?

That's the whole point - these idiots don't think it will ever happen to them because, according to them, they "belong" here and this country is theirs. They are too stupid to realize that this government cares no more about THEM than it does the terrorists. The nature of the government or any other faceless entity is to preserve itself. The machine soon says everyone as a threat.

Ask the smokers. Ask the vietnam vets. Ask those white, caucasians during the McCarthy years. As soon as you are in its crosshairs, you'll be treated the same way as us Indians, Sikhs, and minorities are. The only people who have nothing to fear from the current administration are the filthy-rich, white, christians of our country. ALL else stand to lose.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

well thats the reason then chose to question him in the first place. But until they conclude he's a terrorist they should treat him with respect. If they find he isn't a terrorist then they can atleast treat him with respect and apologize to him?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

well thats the reason then chose to question him in the first place. But until they conclude he's a terrorist they should treat him with respect. If they find he isn't a terrorist then they can atleast treat him with respect and apologize to him?

Almost everyone knows cops treat people like crap.
it's not surprising the SS treated him like crap.
You don't interrogate someone nicely. You take your time and you break the person down over time physically and mentally.
They chose not to apologize. It's their choice, but i'm pretty sure that they think what they did was legitimate and did not need an apology.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

well thats the reason then chose to question him in the first place. But until they conclude he's a terrorist they should treat him with respect. If they find he isn't a terrorist then they can atleast treat him with respect and apologize to him?

Almost everyone knows cops treat people like crap.
it's not surprising the SS treated him like crap.
You don't interrogate someone nicely. You take your time and you break the person down over time physically and mentally.
They chose not to apologize. It's their choice, but i'm pretty sure that they think what they did was legitimate and did not need an apology.

meh I don't agree. You only interrogate hardly if you know the suspect did something bad and you want him to spill it.

And cops generally treat people properly. I've never had a bad experience with them, and I've gotten my share of tickets and warnings.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DigDug

You are saying that racial profiling is ok as long as it doesn't affect you? What will you say the day when it DOES affect you?

That's the whole point - these idiots don't think it will ever happen to them because, according to them, they "belong" here and this country is theirs. They are too stupid to realize that this government cares no more about THEM than it does the terrorists. The nature of the government or any other faceless entity is to preserve itself. The machine soon says everyone as a threat.

Ask the smokers. Ask the vietnam vets. Ask those white, caucasians during the McCarthy years. As soon as you are in its crosshairs, you'll be treated the same way as us Indians, Sikhs, and minorities are. The only people who have nothing to fear from the current administration are the filthy-rich, white, christians of our country. ALL else stand to lose.

if you're not guilty then you have nothing to fear.

its really pretty plain and simple.

in all seriousness when you grow up it will become clear. You'll lose that "its their fault" "its so unfair" mentality and just accept.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

well thats the reason then chose to question him in the first place. But until they conclude he's a terrorist they should treat him with respect. If they find he isn't a terrorist then they can atleast treat him with respect and apologize to him?

why?

Why should they appologize?

Seriously, you've lost me there. Why?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

The fact he was questioned is fine, the fact that he wasn't apologized to is not.

boohooo, so some feelings got hurt.

I'm sure you would be fuming if you went to some country and you were interrogated for a few hours and then let go without any reasoning or apology.

I don't mind officials asking us <minority who are believed to be in the same group as terrorists to most of USA> questions at the border or airports or wherever....but atleast treat us with respect during the duration of the questioning.

Isn't it innocent till proven guilty? Or is that only applied to white folks and not to the coloured?

They had a reasoning. He was suspicious and he was from the middle east or near there.
All they didn't give him was an apology.

well thats the reason then chose to question him in the first place. But until they conclude he's a terrorist they should treat him with respect. If they find he isn't a terrorist then they can atleast treat him with respect and apologize to him?

Almost everyone knows cops treat people like crap.
it's not surprising the SS treated him like crap.
You don't interrogate someone nicely. You take your time and you break the person down over time physically and mentally.
They chose not to apologize. It's their choice, but i'm pretty sure that they think what they did was legitimate and did not need an apology.

meh I don't agree. You only interrogate hardly if you know the suspect did something bad and you want him to spill it.

And cops generally treat people properly. I've never had a bad experience with them, and I've gotten my share of tickets and warnings.

I'll have to agree here.

You see when I was a skateboard punk and thought "the man is just out harrassing us" "we're being labeled and profiled because we were funny clothes and carry a board" we all thought like some of the opinions above...

"its not fair" "boohooo...its not fair. we should be accepted and allowed to do our thing"

And then you grow up. And realize that life isn't fair. It just isn't. And you enter the work force and become a productive member of society. And you realize...life isn't fair and never will be.

Fair is in "Fairytale". And that's just the way it is.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
brown people bad!!!

Good that the university is behind him.

He wasn't just brown, he was wearing a turban. Turban = bad. Did they look for WMD in his turban? You could hide a lot of aluminium tubes in there, albeit it short but thems are WMD parts pilgrim. /me lifts belt tips cowboy hat and kicks spurs into the dirt.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: samgau

Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Great posts, DigDug! :beer:

It is sad to see how the people of a great country like the US (founded on the freedom of expression) is made dumb and blind because it only gets heavily filtered information by the administration and its corporate media affliliation.

People with money have the resources to control others. Some would do so to the detriment of others. This is one of the faults of capitalism. You didn't think the system was perfect did you? None is. It may be the least of all evils, but it's not without. Pigs at the trough you know. They just want more and more. Trying to fill an unfillable void.

is it me or am I starting to sound like moonie?

 

[Apocalypse23]

Like someone said, the Sikh turban is very specific. I've been to India, lived in the Middle East for a while and I reside in a very multicultural area in B.C, Canada, and never in my life have I seen a single muslim person wear a Sikh-style turban. I've never seen any non-sikh wear a sikh-style turban. Ever. Also if I recall correctly, in the recently released video of the 9/11 hijackers at the airport, none of them was wearing a turban, and they were dressed in western clothing (correct me if i'm wrong). So a little education could have gone a long way. But regardless, I still don't see how they couldn't even apologize, jeez.

 

[DotheDamnTHing]

Originally posted by: Apocalypse23
Like someone said, the Sikh turban is very specific. I've been to India, lived in the Middle East for a while and I reside in a very multicultural area in B.C, Canada, and never in my life have I seen a single muslim person wear a Sikh-style turban. I've never seen any non-sikh wear a sikh-style turban. Ever. Also if I recall correctly, in the recently released video of the 9/11 hijackers at the airport, none of them was wearing a turban, and they were dressed in western clothing (correct me if i'm wrong). So a little education could have gone a long way. But regardless, I still don't see how they couldn't even apologize, jeez.

exactly

 

[Abhi]

One simple question comes to my mind....

If a terrorist was living in the US, and planning to do harm.... wouldnt the first thing he would do would be to get a shave and a haircut?

 

[glugglug]

On a related ridiculous note: Proposed ban on photography of the New York City subway

Police already enforcing the ban before it's even passed.

 

[tcsenter]

Revised Cliff Notes:

Khotkar wanted to take some pictures of his former campus, but the three were soon stopped by college police, who said someone had reported them as suspicious after they attempted to take pictures of St. Mary's Chapel.

At the point they received a public complaint of suspicious activity, it is no longer an 'option' to investigate. The Secret Service now has an obligation to follow-up on that complaint and pursue it to a conclusion based on law enforcement methods, not guesstimations and speculations that "I see you are wearing a Turban, you don't seem very dangerous to us, so we're going to let you go with no questioning."

I didn't know that wearing a Turban was now some kind of concrete determination of one's intentions.

This wasn't the Secret Service "trolling" through campus profiling students, there appears to have been a complaint reported, and the campus police stopped them first.

The FBI and Secret Service do this kind of thing ten thousand times per year and it sure seems that the handful of complaints we ever hear about come from 'activist' types (e.g. leaders of four different campus organizations).

 

[biawokauns]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: ABitTooSpicy

Originally posted by: isekii
They're just taking precautions.

OMG... are you serious?!... dude its VERY easy to tell a sikh person apart from a muslim person... if they are going to racially profile atleast they should know how to tell the race apart from other races...

that's expecting a LOT from your government, isn't it ???

sarcasm