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Lifer
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
You consider redneck to be a white-only slur? It's used all the time against others.
In my 22 years, I have heard the term redneck used thousands upon thousands of times. Not one of those times has it been used on someone who wasn't white.

I have. I even hear it on TV.

Then you have what is called "comprehension problems".
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
You consider redneck to be a white-only slur? It's used all the time against others.
In my 22 years, I have heard the term redneck used thousands upon thousands of times. Not one of those times has it been used on someone who wasn't white.

I have. I even hear it on TV.

Then you have what is called "comprehension problems".

ok
 

Isshinryu

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms


ok

-Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
-A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.

I'm from Ireland, so I don't know your slang, but it seems that it's white specific.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.

Like a week or two ago there was a black comedian talking about black southerners and calling them rednecks. I even know people that use it in real life. I grew up in Alabama and people threw redneck around at non-whites. Everyone used it like 'country bumpkin'
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.

Like a week or two ago there was a black comedian talking about black southerners and calling them rednecks. I even know people that use it in real life. I grew up in Alabama and people threw redneck around at non-whites. Everyone used it like 'country bumpkin'

No they don't. I've never heard a single non-white person be called a redneck. I've lived in Alabama for 21 years. It is white specific.
 

biffbacon

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Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.

Like a week or two ago there was a black comedian talking about black southerners and calling them rednecks. I even know people that use it in real life. I grew up in Alabama and people threw redneck around at non-whites. Everyone used it like 'country bumpkin'

No they don't. I've never heard a single non-white person be called a redneck. I've lived in Alabama for 21 years. It is white specific.

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Aug 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas?

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

It doesn't matter. Apparently it shows a disdain for what he believes is a singular American culture.

Do most Americans wear a yamika? No. Therefore it apparently is not a part of the single American culture.

Of course he's completely wrong in assuming that there is only one single distinct culture in the US.

When was the last time a Sikh with a turban blow anything here up?
 

gururu

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Originally posted by: biffbacon
ooh, too bad, so sad, he was detained and questioned. big deal. it was in the interest of national security. if it takes racial profiling, and a few people being detained for a few hours like this guy to prevent another 9-11 then so be it. its not like the guy was imprisoned, he was taken into custody for less than a day and questioned.

good for the secret service, they're out there doing their job.

edit: and i dont care what kind of turban he was wearing. he was questioned. he was innocent. he is free again. now go take some pictures


i agree. the fact that he is Sikh or the fact that he was a student means very little. His choice to sustain a cultural identity automatically makes him stand out and fit into a profile. this is nothing new anyway, racial profiling has been done to blacks and hispanics for decades.
 

Wahsapa

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Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel
 

biffbacon

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Originally posted by: Wahsapa
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel

i realize sikh's dont blow things up (they just assassinate the leaders of india), and Jewish people do not blow things up in the U.S., so they are not regularly racially profiled in regard to those matters
 

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Lifer
May 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.

Like a week or two ago there was a black comedian talking about black southerners and calling them rednecks. I even know people that use it in real life. I grew up in Alabama and people threw redneck around at non-whites. Everyone used it like 'country bumpkin'

You are a stupid individual. Even a black comedian would point out that their necks could never be red. LOL

Do you have a comedy show?

I actually have some african history in my family so if you want to paint somebody racist I suggest you look elsewhere.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I don't think you get my point. It doesn't seem to be based on race there. I highly doubt that they would leave out an Arab kid wearing a trenchcoat with "USA is the great satan" and satanic symbols tattooed on his forehead.
They'd be a fool not to notice that. If a random white person were taking pictures of nuclear facilities, they'd question them too.

As far as the redneck thing, who were they talking about? Redneck came about as a derogatory term for poor white farmers.

Like a week or two ago there was a black comedian talking about black southerners and calling them rednecks. I even know people that use it in real life. I grew up in Alabama and people threw redneck around at non-whites. Everyone used it like 'country bumpkin'

You are a stupid individual. Even a black comedian would point out that their necks could never be red. LOL

Do you have a comedy show?

I actually have some african history in my family so if you want to paint somebody racist I suggest you look elsewhere.

ok
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel

i realize sikh's dont blow things up (they just assassinate the leaders of india), and Jewish people do not blow things up in the U.S., so they are not regularly racially profiled in regard to those matters

When has a terrorist with a turban blown up something in the US?
 

Wahsapa

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Jul 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel

i realize sikh's dont blow things up (they just assassinate the leaders of india), and Jewish people do not blow things up in the U.S., so they are not regularly racially profiled in regard to those matters

so then what did you base your response about the "turban = people who blow things up" on?
 

Mill

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Look, we can't all sit here and speak without bias. Many of you who are non-white consider this to be a huge racial issue, and I'm sure I'd probably feel the same if I wasn't white. However, comparing OKC bombing to our current threat level is absurd. OKC was an isolated incident, and the FACT was we DID have intelligence and undercovers in numerous militias and had been following this stuff for years. Problem is you can't stop two crazy people from doing something like this if they have the skill. Look at Eric Robert Rudolph and what he was able to do. Questioning the guy based on appearance is unfortunate, but I've yet to see the argument against it. If they were investigating Klan rallies they wouldn't be stopping anyone who wasn't white. If they were looking for two black males that robbed a bank they wouldn't be stopping people who were white. I have no problem with pointing out other examples of non-muslim/brown/whatever terrorist, but it is being very dishonest. Even though there have been other suspects and terrorists, the main threat to the US in form of terrorism is from Middle-Eastern males and/or those who look similar to them. I'm sorry, but that's just how it is. It doesn't mean we should hassle people or make them feel like sh!t though.

We all have a bias in this discussion, but some people are losing it (digdug) and starting to engage in behavior that they are speaking against(in some manner). There is no way to take bias out of security. It is security and not science. I profile everyday at work when it comes to certain things. I know who is most likely to what behavior. It isn't because I'm purposely picking on certain people, but you notice a pattern. In my industry older white people are more likely to complain. I've noticed other things as well they are based on age, race, and gender. Culture, gender, and socio-economic status ARE big determiners for people's behavior. That's a fact.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: DigDug
I'm SURE you speak from experience, redneck.
How much does anyone want to bet that if my man DigDug here had said any of 20 different racial slurs he'd be banned, but this goes unpunished?

Some idiot also called brown people beloved patriot's on the first page. I dont hear you crying about that one. Last time I checked that is a racial slur against brown people.
 
Aug 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel

i realize sikh's dont blow things up (they just assassinate the leaders of india), and Jewish people do not blow things up in the U.S., so they are not regularly racially profiled in regard to those matters

Jewish people just assassinate the leaders of Israel as well.
 

biffbacon

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
Originally posted by: biffbacon
Originally posted by: Wahsapa


to think wearing a turban is showing disdain for america is about as dumb as you can get.

should jews not be allowed to wear yamikas? do you think thats showing 'disdain for american culture'? do us all a favor and get an education.

jews in yamikas dont blow up things. crazy people in turbans do

wow that went over your head...

sikh dont blow things up either you know...

and jews in yamikas do blow things up ie: israel

i realize sikh's dont blow things up (they just assassinate the leaders of india), and Jewish people do not blow things up in the U.S., so they are not regularly racially profiled in regard to those matters

When has a terrorist with a turban blown up something in the US?

i beleive (i could be wrong as i am not an expert in islamic tradition) that each of the terrorists in the 9-11 attacks was islamic, and in islamic tradition the wearing of a turban of some sort is standard garb.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: DigDug
I'm SURE you speak from experience, redneck.
How much does anyone want to bet that if my man DigDug here had said any of 20 different racial slurs he'd be banned, but this goes unpunished?

Some idiot also called brown people beloved patriot's on the first page. I dont hear you crying about that one. Last time I checked that is a racial slur against brown people.

That isn't a slur in the US like it is in the UK.