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Sick of ATT service? Operation Chokehold on Friday :)
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WelshBloke
Lifer
1. If their systems fuck up, they will blame 'hackers' for bringing down their system and introduce usage caps to ensure 'fair use'.
2. If nothing fucks up, they will just carry on as normal and not acknowledge that anything happened.
bobdole369
Diamond Member
Dammit I want carnage.
How will we be able to tell? AT&T is shitty to begin with.
How will we be able to tell? AT&T is shitty to begin with.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
LOL, that's what everyone is asking...
I heard a Kiwi talking on a video the other day, anyone else read Godless Astronomer's comments and imagine his accent and laugh on the inside at it? 😀
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ultimatebob
Lifer
Amusingly, the 3% (optimistic estimate) of all AT&T users who will actually participate in this attempt to cause a data outage are probably the same 3% who AT&T blames for eating up 40% of their bandwidth.
All they need to do is just cancel the contracts for these people doing this DDOS attack for "defacing" their network or whatever trumped up charge they can think of, and half of AT&T's bandwidth problems are solved 🙂
All they need to do is just cancel the contracts for these people doing this DDOS attack for "defacing" their network or whatever trumped up charge they can think of, and half of AT&T's bandwidth problems are solved 🙂
Pliablemoose
Lifer
ATT doesn't dare. Seriusly, it's be such massive bad press for them, even the shittiest of carriers don't want that kind of publicity, imagine the headlines:
"ATT cancels contracts of 3G users on unlimited data contracts for using their 3G"
And someone has a web page for Op Chokehold 🙂
http://www.opchoke.com/
Gooberlx2
Lifer
Except it would never happen:
ATT: You took part in Op Chokehold!
User: Uhh...or I just happened to be harmlessly (to my knowledge) using my 3g service at the same time...I wondered why the service was sucking so much.
ATT: Yeah, well we're gonna cancel your service anyway and bill you for your remaining contracted months.
User: Try it and see what kind of class action lawsuit you get hammered with.
Man...I'm not even on ATT, nor do I really care that much, but I do find this whole thing entertaining. I really do hope the impact ends up being unexpectedly substantial and brings the whole network to its knees.
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Platypus
Lifer
lol
krylon
Diamond Member
What about now? Is it working?
Pliablemoose
Lifer
Some last-minute thoughts
Obviously we will be following Operation Chokehold today and hope to bring you up-to-the-minute coverage of events as they are unfolding around the nation. To do that, we’ll need your help. We need you to send in reports, updates, photos — whatever. The guys who organized the Facebook page, who call themselves The Three Musketeers, are going to be on ABC right before noon Pacific. Might be good for someone to set up a recorder and try to catch the video so we can post it here.
A few thoughts to keep in mind if you are thinking about participating:
1. This was meant as a joke. My blog mixes fiction and non-fiction, and the item on Monday was fiction. So were all the items yesterday about Obama calling me, and Sarkozy being mad about me for sleeping with his wife. Right? All made up. But some people took it seriously and now the joke has taken on a life of its own.
2. This may be cathartic, but it is pointless. A few thousand people are not going to make a dent in a wireless network. If you participate, you’ll most likely be wasting your time.
3. We’ve already won. We’ve directed loads of attention towards AT&T and its lousy service. We’ve been heard. Who knew that there were so many people who were so angry at AT&T? If nothing else, O.C. has revealed the breadth and depth of the anger. There is no need to sit around trying to download video for an hour. So if you have anything better to do, go do it.
4. The media is all over this, and they’re on our side. In the past few days I’ve been fielding lots of calls from hacks wanting to interview me about the protest. They’re all iPhone users, and guess what? They’re all frustrated with their service too! These are people in D.C., New York, Oregon, Colorado. They’re all across the country, and they’re all getting lousy service. That is why this thing resonated with the media. All these media people know how bad the iPhone network experience is.
5. At this point, a demonstration outside an AT&T store is way more effective than O.C. itself. What we need to do now is amplify the story, and physical protests are the way to do it. Here’s why. CNN can’t cover something that’s happening on a bunch of fiber optic lines. They can’t take pictures of that. But they can take pictures of people standing outside a store. Doesn’t have to be a lot of people. Just a few is enough, and then the TV networks can attach a photo to the story, which is what they need. If you can get a few people together, do it, and tell your local media where you are going to gather. Also, tell me, and I’ll post it here.
6. We should be thinking about what comes next. Remember the real goal here. We don’t want to harm people. We don’t want to be angry for the sake of being angry. What we want is a better network. We want AT&T to improve its service. We want them to stop putting investors ahead of customers.
7. There is an even bigger goal. Ultimately, we want to end our country’s rotten wireless system of exclusive deals and lock-ins. We want a system where we can run any phone on any network. That means overcoming huge entrenched corporations with powerful lobbyists and a Congress that is beholden to those special interests. Can we do it? I honestly don’t know.
I’ll leave you with this:
A few thoughts to keep in mind if you are thinking about participating:
1. This was meant as a joke. My blog mixes fiction and non-fiction, and the item on Monday was fiction. So were all the items yesterday about Obama calling me, and Sarkozy being mad about me for sleeping with his wife. Right? All made up. But some people took it seriously and now the joke has taken on a life of its own.
2. This may be cathartic, but it is pointless. A few thousand people are not going to make a dent in a wireless network. If you participate, you’ll most likely be wasting your time.
3. We’ve already won. We’ve directed loads of attention towards AT&T and its lousy service. We’ve been heard. Who knew that there were so many people who were so angry at AT&T? If nothing else, O.C. has revealed the breadth and depth of the anger. There is no need to sit around trying to download video for an hour. So if you have anything better to do, go do it.
4. The media is all over this, and they’re on our side. In the past few days I’ve been fielding lots of calls from hacks wanting to interview me about the protest. They’re all iPhone users, and guess what? They’re all frustrated with their service too! These are people in D.C., New York, Oregon, Colorado. They’re all across the country, and they’re all getting lousy service. That is why this thing resonated with the media. All these media people know how bad the iPhone network experience is.
5. At this point, a demonstration outside an AT&T store is way more effective than O.C. itself. What we need to do now is amplify the story, and physical protests are the way to do it. Here’s why. CNN can’t cover something that’s happening on a bunch of fiber optic lines. They can’t take pictures of that. But they can take pictures of people standing outside a store. Doesn’t have to be a lot of people. Just a few is enough, and then the TV networks can attach a photo to the story, which is what they need. If you can get a few people together, do it, and tell your local media where you are going to gather. Also, tell me, and I’ll post it here.
6. We should be thinking about what comes next. Remember the real goal here. We don’t want to harm people. We don’t want to be angry for the sake of being angry. What we want is a better network. We want AT&T to improve its service. We want them to stop putting investors ahead of customers.
7. There is an even bigger goal. Ultimately, we want to end our country’s rotten wireless system of exclusive deals and lock-ins. We want a system where we can run any phone on any network. That means overcoming huge entrenched corporations with powerful lobbyists and a Congress that is beholden to those special interests. Can we do it? I honestly don’t know.
I’ll leave you with this:
coolVariable
Diamond Member
ultimatebob
Lifer
I liked Fake Steve's last post... way to cover your own ass just in case his minions are successful at crashing AT&T's network and sue for damages 🙂
How would they get sued for using a service they pay for?
Deliberately causing harm to a network he does not own or operate. Could even be a federal offense.
darkswordsman17
Lifer
The guy deserves some credit. He managed to get a ton of publicity for his shitty blog, while taking advantage of the idiot iPhone fanatics.
Change is coming, but not because of this. It was already coming before this, and I don't see this changing anything. All the wireless carriers are basically in the process of upgrading to new technology. It doesn't make sense for them to spend a bunch of money now on current tech, as its a minority of users that are having such problems in the first place, and that might even be partly due to the device itself and not just the network. In fact, better service and prices were inevitable as the market increases and there's more competition (i.e. more smart phones, so more people wanting full service).
No doubt they'll pat themselves on the back and act like they've accomplished something, but all they've shown is that they're willing to put up with [supposed] shitty service. Make no mistake, they put themselves in this situation, by signing up for contracts, doing that in a market that's basically known to be about screwing the customer, not properly researching the overall quality (wanted an iPhone so bad they didn't care that there were pretty mixed results about it on AT&T's network from the start), and being early adopters.
I'm not even saying the wireless providers aren't free of blame, they were pretty shortsighted to not have seen the popularity of smart phones coming, however consumers have allowed them to make the contracts, shitty pricing, shitty plans, and shitty service become the norm.
Change is coming, but not because of this. It was already coming before this, and I don't see this changing anything. All the wireless carriers are basically in the process of upgrading to new technology. It doesn't make sense for them to spend a bunch of money now on current tech, as its a minority of users that are having such problems in the first place, and that might even be partly due to the device itself and not just the network. In fact, better service and prices were inevitable as the market increases and there's more competition (i.e. more smart phones, so more people wanting full service).
No doubt they'll pat themselves on the back and act like they've accomplished something, but all they've shown is that they're willing to put up with [supposed] shitty service. Make no mistake, they put themselves in this situation, by signing up for contracts, doing that in a market that's basically known to be about screwing the customer, not properly researching the overall quality (wanted an iPhone so bad they didn't care that there were pretty mixed results about it on AT&T's network from the start), and being early adopters.
I'm not even saying the wireless providers aren't free of blame, they were pretty shortsighted to not have seen the popularity of smart phones coming, however consumers have allowed them to make the contracts, shitty pricing, shitty plans, and shitty service become the norm.
techs
Lifer
Gitmo for sure.
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
That looks very much like UC Berkeley's Wheeler Hall where they had massive protests less than a month ago. Hmmm....
Edit: NM while the buildings look similar, the traffic light there indicates its not Berkeley.
Anyway... I just tweeted some. My connection looks fine on AT&T. Heh.
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
3G service won't work, but 2G will no problem...
Pliablemoose
Lifer
It won't start till 12 pacific time. 45 minutes
12 noon Pacific time,
1PM Mountain time,
2PM Central time,
3PM Eastern time
This thread has had 3K views, the Facebook page has >4K members
This'll be interesting to see how Twitter works for civil disobedience
12 noon Pacific time,
1PM Mountain time,
2PM Central time,
3PM Eastern time
This thread has had 3K views, the Facebook page has >4K members
This'll be interesting to see how Twitter works for civil disobedience
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MattCo
Platinum Member
Do you believe the stuff you type? Even if they could somehow prove that the certain people were using their iphone to watch a video maliciously instead of just watching a video for entertainment, would they bring federal charges???
Do ppl in FPMITA prison count against unemployment figures? Maybe we could solve our "economy" that way, just toss people in jail for watching Little Bear on YouTube on their AT&T phone. Unemployment drops instantly!
SunSamurai
Diamond Member
For using unlimited data? Dumbass?
They are selling unlimited data. How can we 'harm' that by using what we pay for? It would be THEIR FAULT.
I swear half the shit you say has IM A TOOL written all over it.
Ive been downloading 10-20GB a month on my iPhone for a year and people like you arnt going to do shit to stop it nor is ATT. So suck it.
OOPS! Upto 33 this month! I only have INFINITY LEFT
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A coordinated effort to cause damage to the network is most certainly against acceptable use policy that by contract one signs. And tampering with or damaging networks you do not own is indeed a federal offense. How can you not see this? Those are facts.
What this douche is trying to do is deliberately coordinate harm to a network he does not own or operate. That is also a fact. It is also a crime.
Pliablemoose
Lifer
I'd say that watching a you tube video is significantly less of a national security risk than installing iTunes on a secure computer 🙂
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