SCOTUS hearing on Roe V Wade

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himkhan

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When over 75% of the voting age population is in agreement on ANY issue that is cause for celebration. That's around 192 million Americans who don't want the SCOTUS interfering with Roe/Wade. If these illegitimate Justices vote to overturn precedence and the will of the vast majority of Americans, well then, they will have charted a course into Activist waters.

Activist Judges need to be removed.

I don't think the people will stand for this. If 75% think it should be left alone that means one of two things:

A. That Republicans only represent appx 25% of the country yet hold most of the power - or-
B. That millions upon millions of Republicans aren't being represented by these Activist Judges either.
 

dank69

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When over 75% of the voting age population is in agreement on ANY issue that is cause for celebration. That's around 192 million Americans who don't want the SCOTUS interfering with Roe/Wade. If these illegitimate Justices vote to overturn precedence and the will of the vast majority of Americans, well then, they will have charted a course into Activist waters.

Activist Judges need to be removed.

I don't think the people will stand for this. If 75% think it should be left alone that means one of two things:

A. That Republicans only represent appx 25% of the country yet hold most of the power - or-
B. That millions upon millions of Republicans aren't being represented by these Activist Judges either.
Except nothing will be done about it because Republicans and "independents" will go to their graves believing Democrats would have been worse.

Additionally, the actual worst impact of this will not hit for approximately 18 years when crime starts increasing, and then even if we reverse it immediately at that point it will take an additional 18 years for that to make a difference.
 

Zorba

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Except nothing will be done about it because Republicans and "independents" will go to their graves believing Democrats would have been worse.

Additionally, the actual worst impact of this will not hit for approximately 18 years when crime starts increasing, and then even if we reverse it immediately at that point it will take an additional 18 years for that to make a difference.
Well according to Amy anyone that wanted an abortion should just give the kid to the state. So expect states like Mississippi to end up with massive orphanages again, especially ones for kids with genetic defects.
 
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kage69

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Maine is like new England's Florida

At face value maybe. Sure Le Page was a big friggin embarrassment, but Maine has a political culture quite different than Florida I'm happy to say. Note Angus King, voting rights (ranked choice too) LGBTQ rights, workers rights, hunters rights, goes on and on. As a resident of both states for decades, I will agree the rednecks themselves are remarkably similar sometimes though. Susan Collins has become more desperate in recent years, has largely abandoned the tradition of independence Mainiac politicians cultivated long before her. Pretty much a McConnell lackey at this point. I also think there is more going on with her health than mild spastic dysphonia. Older women are prone to osteoporosis I know, could be related to her periodically not having a spine. She's no Olympia Snowe.

I think you're thinking of New Hampshire. What those salty Scots/Irish lack in numbers compared to Florida they make up for via alcohol consumption.
 
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kage69

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Americans have not given Democrats enough power long enough to enact much of anything in my lifetime. They barely had enough power during a brief window to pass the ACA and had to water it down in order to pass it.


Damn straight. Seems I still run into low information sock puppets who like to pretend Obama and the Dems 'had total control of Congress" for X number of years. Reminder for those that need it: Obama enjoyed a filibuster proof majority for 4 months and one week, 72 working days in total.

 

ivwshane

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So when we lose the right to bodily autonomy, can we proceed to sterilize anyone we want?

Possibly or we could also require gene editing since it could easily be argued as a state interest.

But I do look forward to the plethora of bills that will come afterwards that will restrict gun ownership to essentially outlaw it without outlawing it. It Coyote be argued that it’s the states interest to disarm its citizens and the data will back that up along with decades of policies that have yet to prevent major tragedies and suicides. In fact the court has even said reasonable restrictions are allowed for the 2nd. Now that the SC wants to be scrupulously neutral, what is reasonable can be determined by the lower courts, which of course, can now be stacked for political reasons.


Gotta love shortsighted righties.
 
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HomerJS

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Take this to it's logical conclusion

15 weeks - states rights
6 weeks - states rights
conception - states rights
Personhood, something Republicans tried a little while ago declaring under law a fertilized egg is a person - states rights
Since a fertilized egg is a person the birth control pill must be outlawed because it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting on the uterine wall and is passed.

Meanwhile mask mandates banned thereby spreading COVID and killing people - states rights for the pro life party


Also, laws making it harder for minorities to vote - states rights
Red states move to ban marriage equality again - states rights
red states move to get civil rights stricken from history books - states rights

Apartheid is here
 
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nOOky

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This is what liberals get for being such pussies. You may represent the majority, but you certainly don't want to fight for your rights. The methods the conservatives use to promote their "agenda" including gerrymandering and voter suppression along with outright televised propaganda along with doing every sketchy thing in their power because they want to retain control.

Liberals be like "well we want to maintain the moral high ground" and try to reason with unreasonable people. Liberals are the unarmed hippies chaining themselves to a tree to save a forest. Conservatives bring the saw and just laugh at them.

Many Democrats wanted to expand the supreme court from the get go. Now we know why, but it's too late. How long can we go before this back and forth shitshow ends one way or the other, probably the other?
 

SteveGrabowski

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When over 75% of the voting age population is in agreement on ANY issue that is cause for celebration. That's around 192 million Americans who don't want the SCOTUS interfering with Roe/Wade. If these illegitimate Justices vote to overturn precedence and the will of the vast majority of Americans, well then, they will have charted a course into Activist waters.

Activist Judges need to be removed.

I don't think the people will stand for this. If 75% think it should be left alone that means one of two things:

A. That Republicans only represent appx 25% of the country yet hold most of the power - or-
B. That millions upon millions of Republicans aren't being represented by these Activist Judges either.

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HomerJS

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Americans have tolerated 40 years of stagnant wages while the oligarchs have laughed all the way to the bank. Americans have tolerated 20 years of healthcare costs spiraling out of control. Americans have tolerated colleges becoming factories for creating crippling debt for their children while offering degrees that keep being worth less and less. Americans tolerated Wall Street bundling junk home loans into AAA rated securities to loot their retirements. Then Americans tolerated bailing those criminals out. And Americans have again tolerated the housing bubble swelling to never before seen heights. Americans have tolerated a return to Jim Crow with the death of the Voting Rights Act. Americans tolerated a coup attempt on January 6th and then voted the traitors back in power last month. Americans will 100% tolerate poor people who can't afford to cross state lines dying of botched coathanger abortions.

In the US we have such a ridiculous case of Stockholm Syndrome where we don't realize we're the shithole country.
This post need to be made a sticky
 
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Ajay

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Red states can dilute their political power by adding a bunch of unwanted, sometimes broken kids to their populations.
Uh, it will do the opposite to some degree. Populations of Red States will increase, giving them a bit more political clout. IMHO.
Well, unless those from Blue states adopt many of these babies from women are poor or who are too young to raise a child.
 

brycejones

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As a reminder this is the same court that also holds that actual innocence isn't a valid reason to stop the state from executing you. As long as the paperwork is correctly filled out it's totes cool for the state to kill you.

pro-life party my ass
 

ch33zw1z

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At face value maybe. Sure Le Page was a big friggin embarrassment, but Maine has a political culture quite different than Florida I'm happy to say. Note Angus King, voting rights (ranked choice too) LGBTQ rights, workers rights, hunters rights, goes on and on. As a resident of both states for decades, I will agree the rednecks themselves are remarkably similar sometimes though. Susan Collins has become more desperate in recent years, has largely abandoned the tradition of independence Mainiac politicians cultivated long before her. Pretty much a McConnell lackey at this point. I also think there is more going on with her health than mild spastic dysphonia. Older women are prone to osteoporosis I know, could be related to her periodically not having a spine. She's no Olympia Snowe.

I think you're thinking of New Hampshire. What those salty Scots/Irish lack in numbers compared to Florida they make up for via alcohol consumption.

Nah, Maine is like our FL, NH is like our TX 😏
 

Pohemi

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pro-life party my ass
That's been one of the most bullshit, hypocritical claims/stances of the GOP for decades, even moreso than so-called "trickle-down".

They're not actually pro-life, only pro-fetus and pro controlling of people outside of them and theirs. They wrap it up by projecting their authoritarianism on liberals.

Because masks violate their freedumbs and liberty, not to mention hurting their poor widdle feelers.
 
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nOOky

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Americans have tolerated 40 years of stagnant wages while the oligarchs have laughed all the way to the bank. Americans have tolerated 20 years of healthcare costs spiraling out of control. Americans have tolerated colleges becoming factories for creating crippling debt for their children while offering degrees that keep being worth less and less. Americans tolerated Wall Street bundling junk home loans into AAA rated securities to loot their retirements. Then Americans tolerated bailing those criminals out. And Americans have again tolerated the housing bubble swelling to never before seen heights. Americans have tolerated a return to Jim Crow with the death of the Voting Rights Act. Americans tolerated a coup attempt on January 6th and then voted the traitors back in power last month. Americans will 100% tolerate poor people who can't afford to cross state lines dying of botched coathanger abortions.

In the US we have such a ridiculous case of Stockholm Syndrome where we don't realize we're the shithole country.

To do all this the GOP keeps them focused on abortion, brown people streaming across the border, black folk leeching off the government, poor people that don't want to work taking their hard earned money, etc. Those are the real issues by god. So now here we are, relitigating settled court cases as a distraction to fire them up.
 

Sunburn74

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Damn straight. Seems I still run into low information sock puppets who like to pretend Obama and the Dems 'had total control of Congress" for X number of years. Reminder for those that need it: Obama enjoyed a filibuster proof majority for 4 months and one week, 72 working days in total.
Still more than enough time. It's not like it's a "surprise when you win an election". The bills should have been ready to go.
Especially if the bills are things that don't really cost money and are mostly just policy and rule changes
 

Moonbeam

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Still more than enough time. It's not like it's a "surprise when you win an election". The bills should have been ready to go.
Especially if the bills are things that don't really cost money and are mostly just policy and rule changes
It seems to me that establishment Democrats are terrified of appearing too radical. This means that every time they get a chance to do something the majority of Americans want they shoot themselves in the back to prove to the minority how moderate they are. Now we have not only a Supreme court that will take down R v W, but an Attorney General with milk toast for balls, a 6 3 Supreme court, and two Democratic Senators who will block the any possibility of fixing the filibuster with no guarantee that is they did fix it it would make any difference. Republicans may be utterly morally bankrupt and hideous but Democrats are sickening.
 

HomerJS

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That's been one of the most bullshit, hypocritical claims/stances of the GOP for decades, even moreso than so-called "trickle-down".

They're not actually pro-life, only pro-fetus and pro controlling of people outside of them and theirs. They wrap it up by projecting their authoritarianism on liberals.

Because masks violate their freedumbs and liberty, not to mention hurting their poor widdle feelers.
Think of the dichotomy pro lifers protect that fetus until born. Now that baby is subject to catching COVID because those same pro lifers are fighting mask mandates for heath care workers.

COVID then kills the baby. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 

cytg111

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They need you at each others throats ... why? Otherwise no yachts for GQP leadership.