SCOTUS hearing on Roe V Wade

[[DHT]Osiris]

SCOTUS needs to overturn citizens' rights to body autonomy so that the forced vaccinations can begin.

I might be convinced to trade abortion rights for a helicopter-based immunization policy.

 

[Dave_5k]

Only real question now is how far the Supreme Court will go - will they simply uphold Mississippi 15-week ban, or will they fully reverse Roe, and thereby make abortion immediately illegal in half the country. And whether it will be by a 5-4 margin, or a 6-3 margin.

Based on hearing excerpts (and their ongoing inaction on stopping the existing de-facto abortion ban in Texas), looking like odds are for a full Roe reversal - I'd guess on a 5-4 final split.

 

[K1052]

Also love the argument that turning this question over to heavily gerrymandered state legislatures is some how, absurdly, illustrative of listening to the will of the people in said state.

Every one of these steps just edges us all closer to a major political crisis. Once the legitimacy of the institutions totally falls way there isn't much left binding the country together.

 

[K1052]

Only real question now is how far the Supreme Court will go - will they simply uphold Mississippi 15-week ban, or will they fully reverse Roe, and thereby make abortion immediately illegal in half the country. And whether it will be by a 5-4 margin, or a 6-3 margin.

Based on hearing excerpts (and their ongoing inaction on stopping the existing de-facto abortion ban in Texas), looking like odds are for a full Roe reversal - I'd guess on a 5-4 final split.

Roberts is gonna try for #1 I think but the other conservatives directly heading for #2.

 

[eelw]

I might be convinced to trade abortion rights for a helicopter-based immunization policy.

Right, the ultimate point is the woman’s right to choose. But yeah as mentioned earlier, if there are very few late term abortions, reducing the number of weeks shouldn’t matter too much. As long there are some medical exceptions available

 

[soulcougher73]

Next up is probably criminal prosecution of those that seek or procure abortions and anybody that knows/assists. Going to see some real loony stuff happen.

Maybe they will target the woman's right to vote next?

 

[vi edit]

I'd still like to see women organize a boycott on men. Sorry no sex for you until I have control over my body. This is like a remake of civil rights movements.

 

[fskimospy]

The good news is that Susan Collins confirmed with Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings that he considers Roe v. Wade to be settled law so clearly he will be voting to uphold it.

I mean if he doesn't then our good friend Susan will be terribly disappointed, and he wouldn't want that to happen.

 

[K1052]

So bets on the first state that tries to make contraceptives illegal?

 

[IronWing]

The good news is that Susan Collins confirmed with Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings that he considers Roe v. Wade to be settled law so clearly he will be voting to uphold it.

I mean if he doesn't then our good friend Susan will be terribly disappointed, and he wouldn't want that to happen.

Collins will be cracking walnuts between her brow furrows.

 

[vi edit]

So bets on the first state that tries to make contraceptives illegal?

That's a weird one and is more of a Catholic cross to bare. The abortion push is more of a evangelical/political wedge. I think the biggest stake in the heart of birth control is defunding/removing family planning clinics that make easy and judgement free access to birth control available.

Otherwise birth control is one of those mush-mouth policies where people bitch about publicly but still want it privately. And wealthy, affluent white women are still going to have some pull there.

 

[K1052]

That's a weird one and is more of a Catholic cross to bare. The abortion push is more of a evangelical/political wedge. I think the biggest stake in the heart of birth control is defunding/removing family planning clinics that make easy and judgement free access to birth control available.

Otherwise birth control is one of those mush-mouth policies where people bitch about publicly but still want it privately. And wealthy, affluent white women are still going to have some pull there.

Evangelicals also don't like contraceptives. They were very much in favor when the court allowed employers to exempt themselves from the ACA contraceptive access mandate when Trump killed it

Also I expect they are about to become highly conflated with medicated abortions which are surging in demand due to the TX law.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Evangelicals also don't like contraceptives. They were very much in favor when the court allowed employers to exempt themselves from the ACA contraceptive access mandate when Trump killed it

Also I expect they are about to become highly conflated with medicated abortions which are surging in demand due to the TX law.

Hard to see a functional difference between a contraceptive and a medical abortion if you're that stupid.

 

[UNCjigga]

Otherwise birth control is one of those mush-mouth policies where people bitch about publicly but still want it privately. And wealthy, affluent white women are still going to have some pull there.

Rich white women don't call it abortion--they call it a weekend shopping trip in Paris with the girls.

 

[vi edit]

At some point, I wonder if we'll start seeing advocacy groups (or rich celebs) offering some sort of amnesty to women in shithole states to move to states that actually respect them. At this point, if I was a woman and had the means, fuck Texas, the south and half the midwest. Well actually, not fuck them. But abort my residence there.

 

[Zorba]

Maybe it will wake women up in the shithole states to what Republicans are really all about? Hopefully they will vote them out next time to overturn the bans?

These are the same states that teachers had to go on strike to get republican to actually provide school funding, then immediately voted republican in the next election.

They hate democrats more than they care about themselves and their rights.

 

[HomerJS]

The good news is that Susan Collins confirmed with Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings that he considers Roe v. Wade to be settled law so clearly he will be voting to uphold it.

I mean if he doesn't then our good friend Susan will be terribly disappointed, and he wouldn't want that to happen.

I can see her brow furrowing as we speak

 

[K1052]

Hard to see a functional difference between a contraceptive and a medical abortion if you're that stupid.

Given the same crowd is hell bent on taking dewormer to fend off a viral infection my confidence in their analytical skills is rather limited.

 

[Meghan54]

Given the same crowd is hell bent on taking dewormer to fend off a viral infection my confidence in their analytical skills is rather limited.

Maybe they all got head lice or rosacea and aren't telling anyone, since the users all deny it's simply an animal dewormer, which is what it was developed for and is its primary use.

 

[kage69]

What a joke this court has become, people like Kavanaugh and Barrett are poison to liberty. Such a shame, and we have people like McConnell and that dumb bitch Susan Collins to thank.

But a big thanks to Biden for not really giving a shit too, way to go Joe.

 

[conehead433]

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at 15 weeks? This basically overturns RvW. There will be a lot of babies in dumpsters. Then they will throw the reluctant would be mothers in jail. Good job America.

 

[Zorba]

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at 15 weeks?

Yes, nearly all.

 

[Dave_5k]

Given the same crowd is hell bent on taking dewormer to fend off a viral infection my confidence in their analytical skills is rather limited.

Maybe they all got head lice or rosacea and aren't telling anyone, since the users all deny it's simply an animal dewormer, which is what it was developed for and is its primary use.

Interestingly, there was study-of-studies highlighted in the Economist this week, highlighting that Ivermectin may reduce risk of death from COVID in regions where there is a very high prevalence of worms in humans. (but has no measurable benefit otherwise)

Indirectly implying that worms may be a comorbidity for COVID that can be significantly reduced by treating the worms, although that was not directly studied.

But should the worms instead be protected from harm? Stop murdering the worms! Ban Ivermectin! Just adopt them instead.

 

[Zorba]

What a joke this court has become, people like Kavanaugh and Barrett are poison to liberty. Such a shame, and we have people like McConnell and that dumb bitch Susan Collins to thank.

But a big thanks to Biden for not really giving a shit too, way to go Joe.

What's Biden have to do with it? He has no power over the SC.

 

[vi edit]

What's Biden have to do with it? He has no power over the SC.

There's some that think he should try and expand the court. The problem for Dems is that they want to fight with paper straws when their opponents are bringing AR-15's. I'm convinced there is no bottom to the depravity of the GOP at this point.