Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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YG still fapping away to his kidnapping projections huh? Eww. The delusion of Putler honoring agreements still seems pretty active too, how sad. "His" wars...too funny. You forgot to call the Jewish guy a nazi.

It's probably pretty hard to watch your heroic gas station mafiaosi eat shit while they approach their demographic and financial demise, isn't it? Good.

I think you'll find Ukraine willing to talk to whomever follows the war criminal Putin, but only after Russian occupiers have been tossed from Crimea and the Donbas. Russia aleady lost, now it's just a matter of how many people they want to lose.
 

Young Grasshopper

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General idiocy of this post aside the long term problem for Russia here is that Putin has broken every agreement ever made with respect to Ukrainian security. There are nearly no promises he can make that can truly conclude the war that Ukraine will believe. If Putin wants to end the war he's going to have to agree to NATO protection for Ukraine otherwise all that's going to happen is it will grind on in a lower gear for years and the consequences will increasingly come home (assassination and sabotage campaigns).


NATO protection for Ukraine? You’re just as delusional as Zelensky if you think NATO is going to go to war with a nuclear armed country over god damn Ukraine. Get real.
 

itsmydamnation

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NATO protection for Ukraine? You’re just as delusional as Zelensky if you think NATO is going to go to war with a nuclear armed country over god damn Ukraine. Get real.
fuck your dumb , you are so dumb ... for real......
like did you read what you quoted......

I from now on will refer to you as fuck face von clown stick.
 

cytg111

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Thats what winning looks like.

I told you guys when this conflict broke out Ukraine would lose, but yet you all want to continue throwing more Ukrainians who want nothing to do with this war into suicide raids.

Quite tragic. This could all be over with a peace agreement. The Russians have said several times they are open to talks. Instead, Zelensky wants to continue kidnapping people off the street to fight his wars.

Who cares are long as it’s not his children right?

On the downside, no one has kidnapped you yet and shipped you to the front.

Any day now.
 

RnR_au

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Russia may be adapting...
Below is a supposed image of a 'new' #Chinese #UAV #jammer to put on #Russian tanks.

My thoughts:
1. The multiple antennas lengths address different frequency ranges.
2. They are dipole (omnidirectional) antennas mean that the power from the amplifier/transmitter is the max effective radiated power. There is no antenna gain.
3. The size of the box housing the transmitter/amplifier is REALLY small, meaning power output is limited. In a good number of cases, if a #Ukraine UAV can be put into terminal guidance at 800m / a half mile away, the jamming would be pointless.
4. It appears to be a stand alone system and shows no integration. This means Russian tanks must chose to 'talk' or 'jam' if their communication systems are in the same RF range as the UAV (likely).
5. Bottom line: It's an ad hoc, duct tape solution to try deny UAVs, but without training or integration, many will be left in the 'off' position, and thus, useless.

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K1052

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NATO protection for Ukraine? You’re just as delusional as Zelensky if you think NATO is going to go to war with a nuclear armed country over god damn Ukraine. Get real.

You're really not getting it are you?

At some point Russia will want the war to end and that will mean getting Ukraine to agree to end it. They have not been able to achieve this aim through force of arms and it looks unlikely they will in the future. The problem is Putin's word is worth less than shit so the only viable concession he could likely make would be to agree to NATO basing in Ukraine that he will not oppose and to not interfere or protest their accession to the alliance.

For a second let's say Putin sort of gets what he wants and US aid to Ukraine dwindles making a frozen lower intensity conflict reality. US sensibilities are literally the only thing keeping the SBU from going hog wild in Russia and when those are removed from the equation watch the fuck out. Russia has created no shortage of people who will do virtually anything to hurt them and people susceptible to influence in Russia itself. Interpreting the present relative calm in this realm as weakness is a terrible mistake to make. A durable settlement is the only thing that can prevent what's coming.
 

fskimospy

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You're really not getting it are you?

At some point Russia will want the war to end and that will mean getting Ukraine to agree to end it. They have not been able to achieve this aim through force of arms and it looks unlikely they will in the future. The problem is Putin's word is worth less than shit so the only viable concession he could likely make would be to agree to NATO basing in Ukraine that he will not oppose and to not interfere or protest their accession to the alliance.

For a second let's say Putin sort of gets what he wants and US aid to Ukraine dwindles making a frozen lower intensity conflict reality. US sensibilities are literally the only thing keeping the SBU from going hog wild in Russia and when those are removed from the equation watch the fuck out. Russia has created no shortage of people who will do virtually anything to hurt them and people susceptible to influence in Russia itself. Interpreting the present relative calm in this realm as weakness is a terrible mistake to make. A durable settlement is the only thing that can prevent what's coming.
Yes - I mean we all know YG is just a propagandist but as you mention why would Ukraine agree to a ceasefire that would do nothing more than give Russia a chance to rebuild their shattered army and attack again?

As Ukraine has long known and Armenia just found out, Russian security guarantees are worthless.
 
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The bigger issue is Silly Putty striking out against countries that are helping Ukraine. His twisted mind sees them as attacking Russia directly. It's far more likely that he will strike a NATO country intentionally. He's mad at the two new inductees for example and he ain't none too fond of Turkey right now either.
 
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K1052

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The bigger issue is Silly Putty striking out against countries that are helping Ukraine. His twisted mind sees them as attacking Russia directly. It's far more likely that he will strike a NATO country intentionally. He's mad at the two new inductees for example and he ain't none too fond of Turkey right now either.

Attack with what exactly?

The absolute worst possible thing that could happen to him would be NATO air power getting cut loose on Russian forces. He's not going to attack NATO.
 

Pens1566

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Attack with what exactly?

The absolute worst possible thing that could happen to him would be NATO air power getting cut loose on Russian forces. He's not going to attack NATO.

Yeah, I just giggle at the thought of any conventional attack on NATO. He's already been exposed as a 3rd tier military power based on being held to a standstill (at best) by Ukraine.
 

fskimospy

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Attack with what exactly?

The absolute worst possible thing that could happen to him would be NATO air power getting cut loose on Russian forces. He's not going to attack NATO.
People seem to forget that the US military is larger than the Russian military, at least at peacetime staffing levels, only ours is well trained and our equipment is not only vastly superior technology wise, it also actually works.
 

Pens1566

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People seem to forget that the US military is larger than the Russian military, at least at peacetime staffing levels, only ours is well trained and our equipment is not only vastly superior technology wise, it also actually works.

And heavily battle tested across all 4 branches.
 
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But we're talking about Vlad's weird mind and line of thinking of superiority above all worldwide. I can easily see him trying to hit Finland or Turkey by air.
 
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Perknose

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Attack with what exactly?

The absolute worst possible thing that could happen to him would be NATO air power getting cut loose on Russian forces. He's not going to attack NATO.
Came here to say this. Just saw everyone else agreeing with the obvious.
 

Perknose

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But we're talking about Vlad's weird mind and line of thinking of superiority above all worldwide. I can easily see him trying to hit Finland or Turkey by air.
If he does either, he's cooked, and he knows it. Putin's main aim to stay in power. He'll absorb just about any humiliation to that end. He has and he will. This seems almost incomprehensible to many outside observers.

Any other leader, even most autocrats, could never have survived a bloody blunder the size of Ukraine. But Putin understands his country, his culture, better than many of the posters here who have forecast his ouster or downfall.

He's not crossing any borders with what's left of his armed forces anytime soon. As long as he remains in his position, literally nothing else matters to him.
 

Young Grasshopper

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You're really not getting it are you?

At some point Russia will want the war to end and that will mean getting Ukraine to agree to end it. They have not been able to achieve this aim through force of arms and it looks unlikely they will in the future. The problem is Putin's word is worth less than shit so the only viable concession he could likely make would be to agree to NATO basing in Ukraine that he will not oppose and to not interfere or protest their accession to the alliance.

For a second let's say Putin sort of gets what he wants and US aid to Ukraine dwindles making a frozen lower intensity conflict reality. US sensibilities are literally the only thing keeping the SBU from going hog wild in Russia and when those are removed from the equation watch the fuck out. Russia has created no shortage of people who will do virtually anything to hurt them and people susceptible to influence in Russia itself. Interpreting the present relative calm in this realm as weakness is a terrible mistake to make. A durable settlement is the only thing that can prevent what's coming.

If NATO wanted to defend Ukraine, they would have boots on the ground in Ukraine, TODAY. But somehow, YOU think they would only help AFTER this conflict is over?

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Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but NATO is not going to war with Russia over fucking Ukraine.
 

brycejones

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If NATO wanted to defend Ukraine, they would have boots on the ground in Ukraine, TODAY. But somehow, YOU think they would only help AFTER this conflict is over?

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Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but NATO is not going to war with Russia over fucking Ukraine.
As a lover of peace and a desire to see the war end you want Russia to immediately stop it's invasion of Ukraine right?
 

Roger Wilco

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If NATO wanted to defend Ukraine, they would have boots on the ground in Ukraine, TODAY. But somehow, YOU think they would only help AFTER this conflict is over?

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Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but NATO is not going to war with Russia over fucking Ukraine.

Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but NATO’s old equipment is currently eviscerating the remains of the Russian military.
 

fskimospy

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Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but NATO’s old equipment is currently eviscerating the remains of the Russian military.
He doesn’t seem to understand the problem NATO is trying to solve, which is how to get Russia to stop invading its neighbors.

You will notice Russia would never dare invade a NATO country because they know they would be obliterated. If Ukraine becomes part of NATO Russia would never dare this sort of invasion again because they know what would happen.
 

fskimospy

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Also, fun question for @Young Grasshopper - Russia has CSTO, which is their equivalent of NATO.

Why do you think Russia’s neighbors don’t want to join that instead, assuming Russia is such a great country to be friends with?
 

RnR_au

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Some numbers about North Korean ammo shipments. Seems to be a decent chunk of arty ammo.

After extensive research and analysis of North Korean deliveries to Russia using various sources and calculations, we estimate that Russia has received around 2,000 cargo containers containing over half a million artillery shells. The article link is at the end of this thread:

2/ This estimate, which leans toward the conservative side, suggests that the actual number likely surpasses 500,000. These artillery shells encompass predominantly both 152mm and 122mm calibers.

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Half a million North Korean shells for Russia is big deal and very bad news for Ukraine. The figure is plausible and is what I heard several weeks ago when European officials were first estimating the volume of transfer. NATO has to up its shell game in 2024.

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Ofcause just because you have ammo, doesn't mean you have tothe means to deliver it accurately in a timely manner. The Ukrainian fire and control systems are far superior.
 
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Some numbers about North Korean ammo shipments. Seems to be a decent chunk of arty ammo.



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Ofcause just because you have ammo, doesn't mean you have tothe means to deliver it accurately in a timely manner. The Ukrainian fire and control systems are far superior.
Also I suspect from other reports that nk ammo is well not exactly the most reliable in the world.
 
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RnR_au

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Interesting short discussion on multiple fronts. The origin of Putin's power, the demographic catastrophe and the severe technical skills shortage that Russia is facing.

 
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