Naw, just accidentally send to Ukraine. Russia has really messed up the mail with their territorial claims I guess.
Naw, just accidentally send to Ukraine. Russia has really messed up the mail with their territorial claims I guess.
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Looks like the Russians are going to pull back to Beryslav.
Speaking as someone who owns Tesla stock, Musk should probably just keep his fucking mouth shut if he's not talking about electric vehicles, batteries, mars, space propulsion, or tunnels.
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Bitek
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The Lord of the Incels, having a slow Monday, consulted the high book of Wikipedia and graced the internet with his latest Revelations.
The People did not rejoice.
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Jaskalas
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A common position I have seen among Republicans.
That we must appease Russia's invasion for Genocide. So that we do not risk making Putin mad. After all, he has nukes. Heaven forbid we don't sacrifice people to a volcano or something.
So they get this idiotic idea that Russia's PR claims are real. That Russians just want something "fair". Let's pretend no one heard Russians repeatedly vowing Genocide for the totality of Ukraine. That they only intend to stop at the Polish / NATO border.
Any notion of ceasefire before Russia's defeat and loss of territory is just begging Russia to recommit to this violence once more. They were appeased in 2014. If they are appeased in 2022, they will come back for more. Russia is weak today, Ukraine must strike while it can. Securing Crimea would secure Ukraine's future by greatly reducing the encirclement Russia can employ for its next invasion.
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cytg111
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Yea but... I would have assumed that UKR would have had success in getting operatives drafted on the other side of the border. I mean that's a valid play is it not?
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U.S. to ship 4 more HIMARS to Ukraine, giving Ukraine 20 active systems.
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Those are getting funded out of a different pot of money iirc than the drawdowns.
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WTF is this even good for? I’m not aware of a carrier task force in the Black Sea. Do they expect to make a big wave and damage the shore? Is there even a tactical target along the coast somewhere?
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The tactic is to spook. It's no coincidence N.K. is also stirring the pot.
Jaskalas
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Nothing to link on hand... not sure I would want to...
But speaking of spooking us, RT-America... aka Fox News, is going all out with Tucker tonight and doing everything to scream "nukes nukes nukes, you HAVE to let Putin win".
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Tucker, Hannity, various talk radio douche canoes like Howie Carr; they would all much rather talk about Biden being "indifferent to nuclear war" than have people discussing sedition, insurrection and treason of Jan 6th, or the various ways they are still currently seeking to destroy the right to vote in this country.
Tucker in particular seems to sport constant wood for Putin, the amount of time he spends dwelling on how Russia should harm American interests - quite the Roger Stone cuckold look, just as creepy and unfathomable too.
I wonder if Putin thinks some kind of nuclear test will give Team Treason enough to work with to hurt Biden's popularity. Apparently it gnaws on him that Biden and Zelenskyy are quite popular over this war. That was his thunder, this was supposed to be like Crimea!
Tucker in particular seems to sport constant wood for Putin, the amount of time he spends dwelling on how Russia should harm American interests - quite the Roger Stone cuckold look, just as creepy and unfathomable too.
I wonder if Putin thinks some kind of nuclear test will give Team Treason enough to work with to hurt Biden's popularity. Apparently it gnaws on him that Biden and Zelenskyy are quite popular over this war. That was his thunder, this was supposed to be like Crimea!
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Jaskalas
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Youtube shorts do not embed...
https://youtube.com/shorts/JnmmBjtRKBA
But this is a fascinating piece of historical information re: Ukraine and Russia.
There already exist monuments in and near Kyiv for the previous time Russia attacked causing famine and genocide.
https://youtube.com/shorts/JnmmBjtRKBA
But this is a fascinating piece of historical information re: Ukraine and Russia.
There already exist monuments in and near Kyiv for the previous time Russia attacked causing famine and genocide.
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Maybe to take out a carrier? Not sure if the battle group would see one of those coming or able to stop it though.
It could put a serious hurt on a carrier battle group, I don't know if it could be intercepted or not. Probably with some luck, it's got to be noisy when running fast.
Of course, you may as well nuke a US city if you're gonna nuke a carrier battle group, you're going to get the same sort of reply.
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Going well is it Vlad?
"New arrivals in Istanbul described the situation in Russia as “rapidly deteriorating,” and many feared being trapped.
“If you stay, you may never be able to leave, and if you want to (leave) you better act fast,” she explained.
Likening the situation to the aftermath of Russia’s 1917 revolution, when hundreds of thousands of “white Russians” found refuge in Istanbul while fleeing the Bolsheviks, Rapoport said those fleeing felt they no longer had a future in their homeland."
apnews.com
But this is also interesting from earlier in the same article:
"While those who left Russia in the immediate aftermath of its February invasion of Ukraine were a “well-educated, Western-oriented, cosmopolitan crowd,” now her organization was seeing “just about everyone who can escape the country.”
“Many of these people used to support Putin, they used to cheer for the war,” she said. “When it was from the safety of their homes and there was nothing at stake for them it was fine. But now they don’t want to support this by their actions.
“They don’t want to support it with their lives. They don’t want to go and fight and die in this war.”"
First part is the brain drain, but the second says they were OK with killing civilians as long as they weren't the ones getting shot at for killing civilians.
"New arrivals in Istanbul described the situation in Russia as “rapidly deteriorating,” and many feared being trapped.
“If you stay, you may never be able to leave, and if you want to (leave) you better act fast,” she explained.
Likening the situation to the aftermath of Russia’s 1917 revolution, when hundreds of thousands of “white Russians” found refuge in Istanbul while fleeing the Bolsheviks, Rapoport said those fleeing felt they no longer had a future in their homeland."
Fleeing Russians follow path of 1917 refugees to Istanbul
Vladimir Putin’s military draft “changed everything” for the tens of thousands of Russians who have fled their country since the Russian leader’s mobilization was announced last month.
apnews.com
But this is also interesting from earlier in the same article:
"While those who left Russia in the immediate aftermath of its February invasion of Ukraine were a “well-educated, Western-oriented, cosmopolitan crowd,” now her organization was seeing “just about everyone who can escape the country.”
“Many of these people used to support Putin, they used to cheer for the war,” she said. “When it was from the safety of their homes and there was nothing at stake for them it was fine. But now they don’t want to support this by their actions.
“They don’t want to support it with their lives. They don’t want to go and fight and die in this war.”"
First part is the brain drain, but the second says they were OK with killing civilians as long as they weren't the ones getting shot at for killing civilians.
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