Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Roger Wilco

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The other big factor is that plant supplies a huge portion of Ukraine’s electricity. If it has to go offline for a substantial amount of time…conditions will obviously deteriorate faster.
 

zinfamous

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Um, so this happened:


RT America ceases productions and lays off most of its staff



We no have more the Government money, you see?


Interesting seeing all these properties and "services" disappear as Russian state funds are now erased by....north of 65% right now? In only about 6 days?--US was able to capture half of the Russian sovereign fund, so then you know, all the other remaining oligarch wealth (Putin's fortune) essentially melted away. All the favors.

All the state products suddenly stop functioning, so it's a real clear indication of what the state owns, and how effective the world has been at trapping all of their wealth, and so quickly.

It's kind of surprising, really.
 
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Muse

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I had just listened to the 538 pod cast that had polling data. Support for sanctions massively dropped if it would increase gas prices.

Not sure that we routinely buy much for Russia, but I'm guessing the little we did is basically done with now.
Said to be about 8% of our oil imports BEFORE the sanctions. We should be able to adjust without difficulty.
 
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feralkid

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kage69

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It definitely needs to be said, "we can't do it without the ladies." There are women standing on the front lines with their brothers and fathers, killing and being killed. None of it could function like it is without the support it's received from an army of mothers and daughters. Bravo ladies, bravo. With enemies like Putin's Russia, what you do is risky too let's not forget. This asshole deliberately targets hospitals and schools, he'd gladly roast a building feeding his opposition.

I hope the Ukrainians have been preparing food stocks for a long time. This might be a long slog, and it might come down to just rifles, RPGs and molotovs someday. Once food and water run out your days are numbered.


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brandonbull

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Lookie what Ukrainian forces managed to capture


Looks like an ad by some local used tank salesman. "What can I do to get you in this creampuff?"
 
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brandonbull

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Some people like to claim the NYT editorial board are all warmongers and have never seen a war they don't like. But I'm not reading the Op-Ed section for news coverage on the invasion. The NYT is still the premier American newspaper. If I actually wanted to read extreme right-wing editorials, there's the WSJ for that.
If you want some left wing NWO garbage, read the NYT.
 
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manly

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Said to be about 8% of our oil imports BEFORE the sanctions. We should be able to adjust without difficulty.
It's not that simple. Crude oil is a global commodity, so if #2 producer Russia stops supplying oil & gas to its customers for whatever reasons (sanctions or spite), that amount is irreplaceable. We import significant amounts from Canada (and Saudi Arabia), and we can't afford the EU needing a piece of that pie. With inflation as hot as it is, that's why the Biden administration has been firm from the jump that nobody wants to sanction Russian oil & gas.

In the past, it was said that when crude oil exceeds about $50/barrel, U.S. fracking operations would kick into gear. Fracking is expensive compared to the Saudis pumping the good stuff straight out of their wells, so our shale oil production has always been sensitive to market prices. Unfortunately, U.S. producers are not in a position to increase supply anytime soon, because they'd rather return excess profits to shareholders.

 

zinfamous

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Looks like an ad by some local used tank salesman. "What can I do to get you in this creampuff?"

I want to see one of these fighters do a youtube-car-reviewer spoof in some of their vehicle nabbing content.

Maybe we can send Doug Demurro over there to do a guest spot?
 

RnR_au

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A good youtube presentation by a retired Finnish intelligence colonel. It is in Finnish but has English subs. All his slide are in Finnish as well, but his speech and the associated subs covers the material well anyways.

He explains how Russians think and why from a historical basis and just what the fark is happening at the top end of Russia.


An interesting point he makes is the notion of a duality in talking about issues in Russia. There is outside the home talk, and then there is the kitchen table talk. The two can be quite different.

Its the kitchen table talk that makes Lenin styled revolutions happen.
 

Muse

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You might be interested in reading about some of the tactics used by the Soviet armies in World War II. Here's a short description:

Order No. 227: Stalinist Methods and Victory on the Eastern Front

Especially interesting are the penal battalions and blocking detachments.

Russia has a history of winning wars by attrition and so did not shy away from tactics that leveraged their advantage in manpower regardless of the losses suffered in their own ranks. Putin seems to me to be enough of an "old school" Russian leader to continue these kinds of barbaric approaches. But I hope I am wrong...
I was reading my dad's memoirs last night and came upon this passage. He's describing his experience as an officer in the US Army during WW II, in Burma. China fought with the allies against the Japanese:

The method of procurement and enlistment of the general run of Chinese soldier was something no one of my acquaintance could attest to personally, but
“everyone in the theater” in Burma would believe the following story as completely true.

At a particular time in any village or town in China, an area would be cordoned off and the “noose” tightened and all men were apprehended and were conscripted into the Chinese army in Burma. I suppose the very young (children) and the obviously old or crippled were released but the rest were rounded up, the door sealed—everyone standing, cheek by jowl…no food, no water, no oxygen (except in the flight crew’s sealed cabin) and the planes took off for Assam, India at heights in the neighborhood of 14000–16000 feet over the lower Himalayas and out of the known flight paths of Japanese aircraft. Mostly they flew at night. Upon landing, the doors were opened, some of the “conscripts” had died from suffocation, and were quickly disposed of—the rest were in the army, if they could stand. They had never had any kind of training or orientation. They were given rifles and had a modicum of training in their use, but little else, and back in China no one knew what had happened to them.
 
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